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Re: The future of Helmets and head protection...
« Reply #60 on: November 28, 2014, 04:08:39 PM »

Do ECB coaching courses actually cover the use of a sidearm?
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Re: The future of Helmets and head protection...
« Reply #61 on: November 28, 2014, 04:35:04 PM »

Don't think so but hopefully they are more responsible than most. I make sure they all put the things in the kit bags so the kids cant pick them up. Great coaching aids but v dangerous in the wrong hands
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Re: The future of Helmets and head protection...
« Reply #62 on: November 28, 2014, 04:44:27 PM »

Problem I find in England is kids are molly coddled, used to covered flat tracks and not exposed to hostile bowling early enough.

i think side arms are great and I use them from 15 -18 yards!!

Its not hard to hit a full toss or get out the way of a beamer if you are used to hostile bowling.

KIDS SHOULD RIGHTLY BE FORCED TO WEAR HELMETS AT ALL TIMES WHEN BATTING

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Re: The future of Helmets and head protection...
« Reply #63 on: November 28, 2014, 05:15:52 PM »

I think more lower level cricket should be played on artificial pitches. Council pitches are terrible.
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Re: The future of Helmets and head protection...
« Reply #64 on: November 28, 2014, 05:25:42 PM »

I think more lower level cricket should be played on artificial pitches. Council pitches are terrible.

really???  so the ball is even more likely to be chest high plus??? not very sensible.. plus it'd be crap to play on astro all the time.. biffers would win
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Re: The future of Helmets and head protection...
« Reply #65 on: November 28, 2014, 05:39:46 PM »

really???  so the ball is even more likely to be chest high plus??? not very sensible.. plus it'd be crap to play on astro all the time.. biffers would win

It's crap to play on crap pitches.
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Re: The future of Helmets and head protection...
« Reply #66 on: November 28, 2014, 05:56:17 PM »

Hate artificial pitches, worst are the indoor nets though. Not a clue how high it's going to pop up to and so unrealistic compared to a standard pitch.
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Re: The future of Helmets and head protection...
« Reply #67 on: November 28, 2014, 07:40:28 PM »

Hate artificial pitches, worst are the indoor nets though. Not a clue how high it's going to pop up to and so unrealistic compared to a standard pitch.

agreed, indoor nets are terrible. they also get the stupidly high bounce ones, where any idiot can get a really good bouncer in and everyone does. Astro's are also as bad where again, any idiot can bowl short
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Re: The future of Helmets and head protection...
« Reply #68 on: November 28, 2014, 08:41:44 PM »

I was under the impression artificial pitches had improved. I read an excellent article by Mike Selvey on them.
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Re: The future of Helmets and head protection...
« Reply #69 on: November 28, 2014, 08:43:16 PM »

I was under the impression artificial pitches had improved. I read an excellent article by Mike Selvey on them.

I'd imagine you are correct if you have real top of the range ones.. I also suspect only pro teams have them, not amateur clubs who have to get the cheap stuff
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Re: The future of Helmets and head protection...
« Reply #70 on: November 28, 2014, 10:06:23 PM »

In general I think cricket is not for the most part, which is part of the reason why this comes as such a shock.

But there is always the potential for serious injury. Another example is Raman Lamba who was hit fatally while fielding without a helmet in 1998 at short leg. So it is not the first time someone has died on the cricket pitch. The video posted a few posts before by tugga is an example where the fielder was pretty lucky nothing happened. Lamba was not so lucky.

Fantastic point right there. and I say with personal experience that I had to indeed learn the hard way.
I spent a week in hospital after my jaw was crushed whilst fielding at short leg. Me being the young macho tough man refused to even entertain the thought of wearing a helmet. But a short ball from our leggie, followed by a beautifully timed pull shot into my face changed all that. But I was actually indeed lucky. The surgeon had said I could have been killed if the impact was slightly higher.
When I got out of hospital with titanium screws holding my jaw together, the first notable thing I did was go and buy a helmet. Now, I never bat of field in close without it. You see, sometimes it takes an accident to learn and understand that some things are more important than macho pride!
This also equates to have the latest helmet design and wearing current models which in theory should be the safest.
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Re: The future of Helmets and head protection...
« Reply #71 on: November 28, 2014, 10:27:23 PM »

Is is not altogether different if someone dies as a result of an act that has the sole intended purpose of physical intimidation?
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Re: The future of Helmets and head protection...
« Reply #72 on: November 28, 2014, 10:36:17 PM »

Some interesting articles in the media currently that provide some insight into things...

http://www.theguardian.com/sport/2014/nov/28/phillip-hughes-tragedy-improved-neck-protection?CMP=twt_gu
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Re: The future of Helmets and head protection...
« Reply #73 on: November 29, 2014, 12:55:10 AM »

Some interesting articles in the media currently that provide some insight into things...

http://www.theguardian.com/sport/2014/nov/28/phillip-hughes-tragedy-improved-neck-protection?CMP=twt_gu


could you guys potentially change the new 2015 designs in light of this?
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Re: The future of Helmets and head protection...
« Reply #74 on: November 29, 2014, 10:26:41 AM »

Any amendments that are made will take time to process and need to be documented with the BSI if we make any changes to a design.

In light of the terrible incident the media spotlight has fallen on the cricket helmet market and if they are currently doing enough to protect the players wearing them. I think there will need to be a meeting on the BSI/ICC committee to discuss this and provide guidance as to if the safety standard that has just been published needs further review which will drive designs forward.
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