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Re: M&H Apprenticeship in Batmaking
« Reply #45 on: December 23, 2014, 12:34:31 PM »


I would get a 2nd job mate or offer my services on weekends..

My theory is if you want something bad enough you will get it.

We all start at the bottom or at least most do other are offering similar things. I was paid £40 quid a week YTS at a golf club so i learnt to caddy quick and ended up on £200 quid a week.

It a start for somebody it up to them to grab it we live in a nanny state people expect everything on a plate.

Are you unemployed at the minute ? you sound very negative somebody is going to get a chance, It is up to them what they do with that chance....


Agree with Tom either go to collage and earn nothing now maybe more later or take a chance go part to college and learn a trade and get a bit of money.

If i was 16 i would be straight there....

Very limited jobs in the industry and this is target at a audience will not suit all but it is there...

I complete agree with this comment. I spend most weeks talking to other staff/businesses about kids who will end up NEET (Not in Education, Employment or Training).

There has been a culture, which comes from government level, which has led kids becoming completely disaffected with education - and rightly so.

As a teacher, I get annoyed with subjects, including my own at times, which have no barring in industries which these kids my go into.

Also, don't get me started on the lack of funding which stops certain students picking up the skills they need to survive in the real world. Not everyone wants to study for years and pick up tens of thousands of pounds worth of debt so they can become a teacher or a lawyer. Some people ACTUALLY want to become plumbers, electricians etc. A message I believe has been lost over the last 10 years - so I think YTS/apprenticeships are the right way to go. (Funnily enough, this loss of focus has actually made UKIP popular in some constituencies - skills gaps filled by 'eastern europeans'!)

HOWEVER, it is amazing how many businesses moan that they can't get kids with the right skills, moan about the state of education in the UK then when you ask them about running apprenticeships, they turn around and say 'Well it isn't our responsibility' or stall and make up an excuse using the state of the current economic climate!

At least M&H have put their money where their mouth is!
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Re: M&H Apprenticeship in Batmaking
« Reply #46 on: December 23, 2014, 12:40:09 PM »

I see the festive spirit is in short supply

When all is said and done if I was from Taunton and 16-18 and seen this I would have applied yesterday

It might seem like peanuts to those of us that are grown up now (and I use that term very loosely) but to people straight out of school you can live on 100 pw in relative luxury - I certainly could at that age! A couple of evenings of bar work or weekend work and you're virtually a young Tony Montana

Best of luck to those that apply

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Re: M&H Apprenticeship in Batmaking
« Reply #47 on: December 23, 2014, 12:56:06 PM »

I don't think anyone was disputing that apprenticeships are a good idea.
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Re: M&H Apprenticeship in Batmaking
« Reply #48 on: December 23, 2014, 12:57:22 PM »

At least M&H have put their money where their mouth is!

Just not very much of it?
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Re: M&H Apprenticeship in Batmaking
« Reply #49 on: December 23, 2014, 12:58:21 PM »

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Re: M&H Apprenticeship in Batmaking
« Reply #50 on: December 23, 2014, 01:00:28 PM »

This is also true.

I wonder how much they invested in Craig Kieswetter?

Who buys a bat because Craig Kieswetter uses it/ the same stickers?
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Re: M&H Apprenticeship in Batmaking
« Reply #51 on: December 23, 2014, 01:02:59 PM »

100 notes a week to a 16 year old almost certainly living at home. If you love your cricket bats it's a dream job.

I'm pretty sure they're planning for the future here, as I know Nick left last year and Rob's been flat out.
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Re: M&H Apprenticeship in Batmaking
« Reply #52 on: December 23, 2014, 01:05:42 PM »

So are you suggesting that a business should directly base the rates of pay of its workforce on the mark up it puts on its products?
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Re: M&H Apprenticeship in Batmaking
« Reply #53 on: December 23, 2014, 01:10:01 PM »

So are you suggesting that a business should directly base the rates of pay of its workforce on the mark up it puts on its products?

In an ideal world, yes, they might be related - profit would belong to the people that achieved it.
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Re: M&H Apprenticeship in Batmaking
« Reply #54 on: December 23, 2014, 01:13:59 PM »

In an ideal world, yes, they might be related - profit would belong to the people that achieved it.

Strategically or Manually..

Management or Worker???

All i see is some young cad is going to get a chance many would like to do.. We should be happy people are taking on



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Re: M&H Apprenticeship in Batmaking
« Reply #55 on: December 23, 2014, 01:16:11 PM »

The mark up isn't the profit. You've got to take the costs off and the overheads. What you say is never going to happen, the person running/owning the business takes all the risks therefore they should get more of the reward. If the business made a loss would the employees give money back under your system?
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Re: M&H Apprenticeship in Batmaking
« Reply #56 on: December 23, 2014, 01:19:28 PM »


All i see is some young cad...


Yes, I know.
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Re: M&H Apprenticeship in Batmaking
« Reply #57 on: December 23, 2014, 01:21:16 PM »

The mark up isn't the profit. You've got to take the costs off and the overheads. What you say is never going to happen, the person running/owning the business takes all the risks therefore they should get more of the reward. If the business made a loss would the employees give money back under your system?

I don't remember saying people should all be paid the same.
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Re: M&H Apprenticeship in Batmaking
« Reply #58 on: December 23, 2014, 01:23:47 PM »

'Profit would belong to the people that achieved it' were your words. Surely it would go both ways, the losses would also belong to the same people.
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Re: M&H Apprenticeship in Batmaking
« Reply #59 on: December 23, 2014, 01:28:12 PM »

'Profit would belong to the people that achieved it' were your words. Surely it would go both ways, the losses would also belong to the same people.

They would be out of a job, so yes?
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