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[SLC]

Not that he's done anything wrong, but does Jordan really warrant his place? I know he's a useful batsmen and good fielder, but he just doesn't strike me as ever likely to be a real test match quality bowler. Odis yes, but not tests from what I've seen.

[FattusCattus]

Given the choice, and given the remit to shake things up (and given the dead pitches),my team would be -

Cook
Lyth
Ballance
Bell
Root
Ali
Stokes
Butler
Rashid
Wood
Anderson


Batting down to 9 - but more importantly, 5 or 6 varied bowling options.

[WalkingWicket37]

So mentally who won this game?

The Windies definitley! Big dig in job to snatch a draw from the looming jaws of defeat.
England put in the hard yards yet came up short at the business end.

[Gerry SA]

West Indies finally finding a few young players worth their salt. Jason Holder has star quality and will one day be a world all rounder. Jermaine Blackwood and Kraigg Brathwaite are very promising young batsmen. If the Windies can ditch the deadwood like Samuels and Benn, they could be on the way to a half decent side.

Poor old clubbie Anderson, even against weak opposition, without a doctored greentop he still can't win a match.

[potzy248]

West Indies finally finding a few young players worth their salt. Jason Holder has star quality and will one day be a world all rounder. Jermaine Blackwood and Kraigg Brathwaite are very promising young batsmen. If the Windies can ditch the deadwood like Samuels and Benn, they could be on the way to a half decent side.

Poor old clubbie Anderson, even against weak opposition, without a doctored greentop he still can't win a match.

Don't agree with the "clubbie" title but thats Gerry for you. Seems that the Anderson's and Stein's etc are on the downward spiral. New quicks like Starc, Southee, Boult, Pattinson et al are taking over.

[Manormanic]

Given the choice, and given the remit to shake things up (and given the dead pitches),my team would be -

Cook
Lyth
Ballance
Bell
Root
Ali
Stokes
Butler
Rashid
Wood
Anderson


Batting down to 9 - but more importantly, 5 or 6 varied bowling options.

Oh come on, it'll be the same XI.  Unless Ali's return is another excuse to drop a deserving Yorkshireman....

Your XI makes more sense - but even after watching fairly average tail enders kick Tredders away with ease England will still go with two slow off spinners rather than "risking" Rashid might make them look stupid...

[smilley792]

If its the same xi.  I'm gonna be cheering for the windies. Nice 2 nil loss to them might actually make the ecb make proper changes to the mentality the English set up has.


Frustrating.

[TangoWhiskey]

I don't know why everyone is harping on about Jordan. He's a great fielder but I haven't seen anything else from him that suggests he is there on merit.

[skip1973]

I agree, ordinary.

[Kulli]

I think Jordan's another one that on paper seems like an ideal pick but in reality just doesn't quite cut it except as a specialist fielder.

[Gerry SA]

England's obsession with bits and pieces cricketers is pitiful.

Firstly there was a journeyman like Tim Bresnan. No talent but tried hard. Then rocked up Chris Woakes and Chris Jordan, whom are both inferior to Bresnan. 

[TangoWhiskey]

England's obsession with bits and pieces cricketers is pitiful.

Firstly there was a journeyman like Tim Bresnan. No talent but tried hard. Then rocked up Chris Woakes and Chris Jordan, whom are both inferior to Bresnan.

I do actually agree with you here Gerry. Shame we can't just clone Jimmy A three times really.

[golders]

Is Mark Wood quick or another seamer who struggles to get it past 85mph?Not seen him bowl.

[Kulli]

He's mid to high 80's, probably a similar speed to Stokes but a different sort of bowler.

[Bats_Entertainment]

No one seemed to tell him to bowl quicker on a sluggish pitch

Funny that.