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[northernboy1987]

TBH Duminy has been a liability for a long while now. He's averaging a rather poultry 33 and he's s pure batsman. With de Kock slotting in at 7, how can Duminy be a viable option at 6?

If it wasn't for the quota then Roussow would probably slot in at 6.

I wasn't defending Duminy as such I just wondered whether his experience over someone like Bavuma might count in his favour (Just to point out I've never seen Bavuma play so can't offer an opinion on him.)? Only seen Roussow play white ball (does he have a test cap) but he seems a good player.

[petehosk]

Whatever happens with the quota system, the SA Management have some real decisions to make.....and quickly!

[Manormanic]

The stated aim is to have four players of colour including one of black African descent in every squad. 

That's tough as there are not a whole lot of contenders around the main squads - one of Bavuma and Rabada of black African descent seem to have to play, whilst Amla, Duminy and whichever spinner (Piedt, Tahir, Petersen) make up the remainder.  Its hard - admittedly from a limited field of knowledge of the Yarpie domestic game - to know who else they have of even approaching the level until Philander returns.  Tsolekile is a decent stumper - but not quite international class - and Phangiso is probabaly more of a one day player (and in any event, not really in the right spot).

[sanredrose]

Bavuma hardly doing his reputation a great deal of help by charging Ali on 0 and getting stumped

If you wish to charge down the wicket, you should know what you are doing ... Bavuma totally missed the trick ...


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[sanredrose]

Great win the only downside is   Barring injuries  and Jimmys not ready England will probably go into the next test with the same eleven.

If current line up is able to beat SA then why bring back Anderson. Let him get some rest and get in to the squad for 3rd test match.

Except the openers I think everyone played their part in scripting this victory.

Next match I am expecting big innings from Cook or Hales .. Let's see if the openers also start dominating SA bowling.


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[sanredrose]

Definitely a few changes needed. AB shouldn't keep and keep him fresh for batting. A specialist opener needed for sure and maybe Van Zyl to move to middle order in place of Bavuma. Rabada for the unfit Steyn.

Rabada for Steyn is an obvious choice. However both Bavuma and Van Zyl haven't contributed with the bat. Kick them both out and replace with other players ??


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[sanredrose]

The stated aim is to have four players of colour including one of black African descent in every squad. 

That's tough as there are not a whole lot of contenders around the main squads - one of Bavuma and Rabada of black African descent seem to have to play, whilst Amla, Duminy and whichever spinner (Piedt, Tahir, Petersen) make up the remainder.  Its hard - admittedly from a limited field of knowledge of the Yarpie domestic game - to know who else they have of even approaching the level until Philander returns.  Tsolekile is a decent stumper - but not quite international class - and Phangiso is probabaly more of a one day player (and in any event, not really in the right spot).

Do they need to have 4 at all time ? Can that number not be reduced ? Though I don't agree with the policy I would say Imran Tahir is a bad option esp after Indian tour. He was bowling loose deliveries and Amla had real trouble on when to use him.


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[Manormanic]

Do they need to have 4 at all time ? Can that number not be reduced ? Though I don't agree with the policy I would say Imran Tahir is a bad option esp after Indian tour. He was bowling loose deliveries and Amla had real trouble on when to use him.

I wouldn't resume to be able to give a definitive answer, but one of the big tensions with AB was that he was forced to play Philander ahead of Abbott in the World Cup semi against the Kiwis, despite Philander being some way short of fitness. 

[Seniorplayer]

If current line up is able to beat SA then why bring back Anderson. Let him get some rest and get in to the squad for 3rd test match.

Except the openers I think everyone played their part in scripting this victory.

Next match I am expecting big innings from Cook or Hales .. Let's see if the openers also start dominating SA bowling.


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Not just the openers take a look at the bowling

[brokenbat]

SA in deep trouble. Losing to India in India is one thing, but getting dismantled like this at home (Anderson wasn't even playing!) and struggling against M Ali (who was thrashed by Pak in the UAE) highlights how far they have fallen.

Amla needs to quit captaincy and focus on batting.

[sanredrose]

Not just the openers take a look at the bowling

I think we can give england bowlers a bit of breathing space this time. They have managed to bowl out SA twice. That's a good start in foreign conditions ... Don't you think ??

[sanredrose]

SA in deep trouble. Losing to India in India is one thing, but getting dismantled like this at home (Anderson wasn't even playing!) and struggling against M Ali (who was thrashed by Pak in the UAE) highlights how far they have fallen.

Amla needs to quit captaincy and focus on batting.

It's not like this is a one-off victory for England. SA never had the upper hand for a single day in the game !! SA need to do something dramatic here to turn around their fortune. Change captain or change mindset. May be a NZ-eqsue style will work ? McCullum brand of cricket perhaps ?

[Seniorplayer]

I think we can give england bowlers a bit of breathing space this time. They have managed to bowl out SA twice. That's a good start in foreign conditions ... Don't you think ??

Yes it certainly is but dispointed with Woakes bowling 25 overs 1 wicket for 51 runs and that was the wicket of Pledt whos ave is about 4 with the bat..

[ppccopener]

It's not like this is a one-off victory for England. SA never had the upper hand for a single day in the game !! SA need to do something dramatic here to turn around their fortune. Change captain or change mindset. May be a NZ-eqsue style will work ? McCullum brand of cricket perhaps ?

They won't be able to do anything dramatic in two days,second test starts Saturday.Amla will be captain changing him now would be sheer panic..not sure what the score is with devilliers and amla as separate captains but SA have already got de kock  in to keep wicket and free up AB who clearly does not want to keep.
It's only one match Cape Town is a good venue for SA and they come back hard.
I think myself Amla has inherited a side as number 1 but just on the slide a bit-they are short of class,and now without Styen.
England have been rebuilding for a while and are now looking pretty good.
Boycott says we (England fans) need to thank India for this win but I'm not so sure playing India in India really is relevant. Plus....we thoroughly deserved this victory,India had home advantage and that means a lot these days

[csnew]

The south African selection policy is a complete mystery.

Viljoen should be in the test squad, took his second 10 wicket haul in a row and bowled 150kph + in the Ram Slam, gave KP the hurry up.
Cook also getting runs in the warm up then backing it up with 168*. Still can't get selected!