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SS must be making some cracking new handles for Compton to not think he'd nicked that.


All out tonight here England.


Bell and lyth back for the summer??

Thats got to be one of the dumbest reviews...ever

[northernboy1987]

I'm remaining foolishly optimistic and saying Root and Taylor to get tons and us to romp home some time tomorrow afternoon

[jamielsn15]

Give hales and Compton the first home series of the summer unfair not to, on the proviso they learn from their mistakes.

Hales needs to stop nicking off, not a good look for an opener. Compton, to me, just seems too intense, he's got worse as the series goes on. Head's muddled...

[edge]

Definitely, easy for people to forget how well Compton batted in the first test, just seems to have lost his way a little since. He's a serious asset to the side at 3 when in full bloody-minded wear the bowlers down mode. Don't think Bayliss' comments about wanting a dynamic no3 helped!
Both need sitting down and reminding why they're in the team and that they should go out and give their own jobs their best shot - Compton is there to be the rock that sets the innings up at 3 and it seems like he could do with reminding of that. Hales looked at his most comfortable when playing more naturally in the first dig this test, most of his dismissals seem to have been from him getting bogged down worrying or not committing to shots. Sit him down with the management and tell him he's not selected to prod, they're backing him to go out and get us off to a good start, play your natural shots please. Hopefully he will in the summer and then we can judge him properly as a test player, don't think he's giving a good account of himself atm.

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Give hales and Compton the first home series of the summer unfair not to, on the proviso they learn from their mistakes.

Hales needs to stop nicking off, not a good look for an opener. Compton, to me, just seems too intense, he's got worse as the series goes on. Head's muddled...

Why are so many people in love with Hales...he's terrific in t20s, but look at his first class average! Just not good.

[Manormanic]

Hales (or Lyth) is a tough one - because whoever gets the Sri Lanka series is likely to do pretty well due to their attack being pretty much awful.  I don't think any amount of runs against them will really tell anyone a whole lot about a player, save their ability to bat selfish.

I wouldn't have dropped Lyth.  I think he's proved already that he is a quality player - that hundred against NZ at Headingley did it.  But the same logic as should have applied then - i.e. give him a few more games - applies as well to Hales now. 

[Batbuddy99]

Why are so many people in love with Hales...he's terrific in t20s, but look at his first class average! Just not good.

First class average of last two years is 50+
Definitely not good enough!


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[alexhilly1492]

I agree lyth should never have been dropped, but id also wager that most of the people who are saying hales out are also the ones who were claiming he was a world beater and shouting for him to play in the uae.. England fans seem to love to hate the incumbent opener and claim to be better than the selectors, yes they have made mistakes but hales needs time its what we all ask for at the minute with our openers, hales didn't start well in odi's now wed all pick him without a doubt, he is the sort of player who needs a run to play ta his best like he does in a notts shirt, we as fans cant have it all ways, just need to support which 11 is on the field!!

right rant over!!

sorry

[Seniorplayer]

 Hales  has now shown he doesn't have the technique to open in test matches

[uknsaunders]

Compton to open, Root 3 and bring back KP at 4. Seems logical to me 

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First class average of last two years is 50+
Definitely not good enough!


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If that's the case then he deserved a shot (unless other openers were scoring better in the same period).

But his overall first class record (38 avg) is nowhere near good enough for Test cricket. Only Pakistan throws in people to open with that kind of average, and look how well that works

[WalkingWicket37]

If that's the case then he deserved a shot (unless other openers were scoring better in the same period).

But his overall first class record (38 avg) is nowhere near good enough for Test cricket. Only Pakistan throws in people to open with that kind of average, and look how well that works

Urrrmmm.... Michael Vaughan & Marcus Trescothick?

[Disco]

If memory serves I don't think Trescothick had that great a 1st class average when selected, plenty of players who have a better test than county average too. That said I predicted before the series the Hales and fails would be a common theme, you can't play as loose as that and expect to be successful as a test match opener. There is a nothing particularly wrong with being a positive opener but you need the ability to back it up. Hayden had it, Warner has it, Hales doesn't.

[ProCricketer1982]

I keep thinking that England should switch Stokes and Compton in the batting order and then see if they can get close (assuming SA declare soonish/overnight)

Wtf!! That's crazy talk..

[jamielsn15]

Never declared my love for Hales, I think the jury's out and I'm not convinced he's got the game to open in tests but he deserves more than one series, as anybody does. One reason why I feel carberry was so harshly treated. We are too hung up on age.

What I dont get is the logic that Compton and cook can't open because we need to kick on, yet it's likely that they end up batting together anyway!