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[FattusCattus]

Ok - just so I'm absolutely clear -

Boss Cricket is a joint venture between something to do with Phantom, and something to do with Focus Australia, but the bats are made in the UK. They are nothing to do with Focus UK, who are something to do with Focus Australia, but are independently owned and operated by Vitas in the UK, who are nothing to do with Boss. IJC stock Boss, Vitas stock Focus, which are nothing to do with each other.

People seem to like rubbing Chris up the wrong way, except for Tom who didn't mean to rub Chris up the wrong way, but Chris thought he was anyway.

Clear?

[RoCo Da Pixie]

Who can be labeled as a professional in regards to knocking in a bat? Surely there are grey area's all over that statement?

For instance Mr X at a local shop isn't deemed a professional but Paul at IJC is. How would the brand differentiate who is a pro??

[Sivlar13]

I don't want to sound like 'that guy,' but IJC said they weren't going to comment on the brand, and have preceded to make quite a few comments about it in the thread.

I'm not trying to stir the forum pot so to speak, just an observation.

[WalkingWicket37]

Who can be labeled as a professional in regards to knocking in a bat? Surely there are grey area's all over that statement?

For instance Mr X at a local shop isn't deemed a professional but Paul at IJC is. How would the brand differentiate who is a pro??

I imagine @procricket B3 and @ProCricketer1982 will be doing s lot of knocking in soon. I don't think @ProWannabe88 (RP Cricket) will validate the warranty though, as by his own confession he's only a Wannabe 

Disclaimer - before anyone has a strop this is a joke, as was my last post to Chris!

[smilley792]

I'm not commenting on chris dark edition, ijc or boss.

Neither am I commenting on cam floutin forum laws and making a joke.



But I will say this, I've never understood why manufacturers don't fully knock in all bats, will save confusions, and investigation into weather a broken bat should be replaced or not.
Supply knocked in, replace if broke. Simples!

[chrisbd]

Right.

Here it is.

BOSS Cricket is a collaboration between Phantom, Ares Cricket South Africa and Focus Cricket Australia.

The UK operation is operated by Phantom. The bats are UK made entirely. Make of that what you will.

Questions about due diligence? Did people not see my post about having seen the bat-maker make the bats etc? I know exactly where the bat has been, from the willow source, to the Platinum Lounge. I'd say that's fairly good due diligence!

RE the knocking in. Each case is reviewed on merits, but I believe that professional services are done by people who offer the service for a fee - that's what makes someone a professional. IE whether it's H4L knocking in, B3 adding on, Jake at Vitas, etc etc. For Phantom and BOSS though it's easier. They are exclusive to us, and so likely to be knocked in by us, since that's often the most cost effective way of doing it.

I'll be open. Any more questions? I have commented on the provenance of the brand. I'd say it's a good thing. Three international boutique brands are bringing their experience into an accessible level of the market. The target isn't the forum bat nerds etc, it's the average club cricketer who wants quality at a good price, and don't perhaps know as much as people on here.

[RoCo Da Pixie]

Chris,

Makes it clearer on the knocking in.

Like the other Chris said would be much easier if they came fully prepared so the warranty is 100% valid.

I am sure they will sell well.

[InternalTraining]

I'm not commenting on chris dark edition, ijc or boss.

Neither am I commenting on cam floutin forum laws and making a joke.



But I will say this, I've never understood why manufacturers don't fully knock in all bats, will save confusions, and investigation into weather a broken bat should be replaced or not.
Supply knocked in, replace if broke. Simples!

I was told by an owner of a cricket store that if bats sit on shelves for a long time, they need to be knocked again. It sounded like initial knocking of a bat is not permanent and wood fibers tend to revert to the old shape. Knocking following by nets ensure that top layer of the bat stays compressed and tight.

[chrisbd]

I agree with that.

BOSS and Phantom are planning on doing this in the future. Making them come pre-prepared so that the confusion is being taken away, and the warranty is 100% guaranteed and valid (with the usual exclusions). This is something we are aware of, and have suggested.

Chris

[procricket]

Why should a bat that cracks anywhere other than handle or shoulder replace at any stage

Knocking in is no fool proof way or guarantee a bat will not crack in the toe or edges at all so why should anybody have any guarentee with knocking in

Remember what bats are meant for hitting balls out of the middle it not your bat suppliers fault if you hit it on the edge or toe it called miss timed and no amount of knocking in will stop that could be ball one or ball 6000

[InternalTraining]

Why should a bat that cracks anywhere other than handle or shoulder replace at any stage

Knocking in is no fool proof way or guarantee a bat will not crack in the toe or edges at all so why should anybody have any guarentee with knocking in

Remember what bats are meant for hitting balls out of the middle it not your bat suppliers fault if you hit it on the edge or toe it called miss timed and no amount of knocking in will stop that could be ball one or ball.

True all of that!

[procricket]

But if people want to offer a "pro knocking in Service" which includes a new bat every time it cracks I'm in because every bat cracks

[liscon12]

So what shapes do Boss do @chrisbd ?

[ElPerro]

seen the pics on the website and I really like the profile/branding, looks really good

[Batbuddy99]

Love the stickers and the pads
Not so sure on the gloves tho