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Re: Boss Cricket
« Reply #60 on: April 11, 2016, 08:11:17 PM »

GM come "Ready to play" but I don't know if they're done by hand or on a machine.

Didn't M&H say all their bats came knocked in too? (I think I recall some comment about claims they can fully knock a bat in half an hour)

Cool,,three then. Certainly seems better for the customer as they can walk away from the shop that day with a match ready bat
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Re: Boss Cricket
« Reply #61 on: April 11, 2016, 08:44:12 PM »

Right.

Here it is.

BOSS Cricket is a collaboration between Phantom, Ares Cricket South Africa and Focus Cricket Australia.

The UK operation is operated by Phantom. The bats are UK made entirely. Make of that what you will.

Questions about due diligence? Did people not see my post about having seen the bat-maker make the bats etc? I know exactly where the bat has been, from the willow source, to the Platinum Lounge. I'd say that's fairly good due diligence!

RE the knocking in. Each case is reviewed on merits, but I believe that professional services are done by people who offer the service for a fee - that's what makes someone a professional. IE whether it's H4L knocking in, B3 adding on, Jake at Vitas, etc etc. For Phantom and BOSS though it's easier. They are exclusive to us, and so likely to be knocked in by us, since that's often the most cost effective way of doing it.

I'll be open. Any more questions? I have commented on the provenance of the brand. I'd say it's a good thing. Three international boutique brands are bringing their experience into an accessible level of the market. The target isn't the forum bat nerds etc, it's the average club cricketer who wants quality at a good price, and don't perhaps know as much as people on here.

I have a question, Chris. You handpick these bats in person, correct?
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Re: Boss Cricket
« Reply #62 on: April 11, 2016, 08:51:51 PM »

To clarify re knocking in.

This only is for BOSS and Phantom. And yes, customers will still get a repair / replacement if the manufacturing is faulty. No one is trying to escape that one!

The car is a good analogy. If it hasn't been serviced well, it's a problem of negligence. Same as taking a packet fresh bat against a new ball! Just isn't feasible for the manufacturer to have to cover the costs every time a numpty does that and doesn't care for their bat properly!

Yes, we handpicked them in person......
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Re: Boss Cricket
« Reply #63 on: April 11, 2016, 09:21:20 PM »

But if people want to offer a "pro knocking in Service" which includes a new bat every time it cracks I'm in because every bat cracks

All bats should  eventually crack if they don't they are over pressed.
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Re: Boss Cricket
« Reply #64 on: April 12, 2016, 01:26:22 AM »

Hardly my area of expertise but is it legal to only offer a warranty on a product if a further service or item is purchased?
Not here in Australia.
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Re: Boss Cricket
« Reply #65 on: April 12, 2016, 06:52:10 AM »

I think you can buy from them (BOSS I mean) directly as well as IJC

Is there a Boss website?
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Re: Boss Cricket
« Reply #66 on: April 12, 2016, 07:56:23 AM »

Isn't Boss just the way for Ares/Focus(AU) to sell off their lower grade willow that has to be purchased when buying their higher grade willow? I was approached by the collective probably 2 years ago now and that's what was put to me at the time (hence all of the Boss bats being G2/G3 and then Phantom only selling G1).

It's a clever idea, however the costings involved were ridiculous IMO - I'll have to have a dig and read through it again.
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Re: Boss Cricket
« Reply #67 on: April 12, 2016, 08:29:14 AM »

Isn't Boss just the way for Ares/Focus(AU) to sell off their lower grade willow that has to be purchased when buying their higher grade willow? I was approached by the collective probably 2 years ago now and that's what was put to me at the time (hence all of the Boss bats being G2/G3 and then Phantom only selling G1).

It's a clever idea, however the costings involved were ridiculous IMO - I'll have to have a dig and read through it again.


http://custombats.co.uk/cbforum/index.php?topic=31751.0

Thought I remembered this popping up before. Think people need to cool it giving IJC cricket a hard time, it's getting ridiculous now. Have to say I'd have zero interest in this brand though, there's so many others out there I'd be far more interested in than this. I'm struggling to understand why it's necessary. And the branding doesn't exactly excite in either looks or concept.
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Re: Boss Cricket
« Reply #68 on: April 12, 2016, 10:25:26 AM »

Price wise, isn't that the same as an entry level H4L (excluding devil grade)? I know which one I would buy.
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Re: Boss Cricket
« Reply #69 on: April 12, 2016, 01:06:50 PM »

I had a BOSS Menace.

Supposedly the same profile as Shikah Dhawan and made in India by his bat maker. I guess that would make it a Sareen/TON, not  sure who, but definitely indian. Definitely  the UK and Aussie one are different. Anyway it was 80% heartwood and pinged like a gun, but didn't suit me. Was pretty dry too. Sold it on. Can dig up photos if it is important.
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Re: Boss Cricket
« Reply #70 on: April 12, 2016, 02:34:14 PM »

This forum has literally become a witch-hunting ground for cricket nerds.
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Re: Boss Cricket
« Reply #71 on: April 12, 2016, 05:56:53 PM »

The BOSS intro video is now online. Bat reviews to follow next few days....

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Re: Boss Cricket
« Reply #72 on: April 12, 2016, 05:59:08 PM »

As paul and Chris left the site in there official capacity(Chris returning on personal account ). Is this Amos??
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Re: Boss Cricket
« Reply #73 on: April 12, 2016, 06:00:58 PM »

Good luck with Boss IJC!!
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Re: Boss Cricket
« Reply #74 on: April 12, 2016, 10:11:56 PM »

Design wise they look ok but what I don't get is pricing £175 + £20 for knocking in to give you a hope of a warranty for G3 bat and £225 + £20 again for a G2 bat from a brand that no ones heard of and no idea of who makes them.

I'm sorry but personally I don't like the phantom brand or how it seems to operate, just my view but seems to me to be exactly what someone said as a way to off load the low end willow you have to buy when getting top end and you now have to buy more lower end to meet the amount of top grade as willow merchants don't have as much as in previous years.

Good luck to IJC and the people behind it for a new brand but it's not for me.
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