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Re: New T20/100 balls Competition
« Reply #105 on: May 09, 2018, 07:22:29 AM »

I saw on twitter so I don’t know how true it’ll be but that stokes and root will be assigned to teams for marketing purposes but not play.... if that is true then wow I have no words
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Re: New T20/100 balls Competition
« Reply #106 on: May 09, 2018, 07:24:02 AM »

Yep true that Stokes, Root etc... wouldn't be playing because it clashes with tests at that time of year!

So it will be marketed as if they are the big stars but then they won't get released if they are playing for England!

Daryll Mitchell PCA Chairman - "The likes of Root and Stokes will be allocated to a team for marketing purposes, but they won't be playing. The ECB made the point that this new audience won't necessarily know who Stokes and Root are anyway."
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Re: New T20/100 balls Competition
« Reply #107 on: May 09, 2018, 07:25:57 AM »

Absolute chaos at the moment.
The PCA aren't currently going to allow their members to play...
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Re: New T20/100 balls Competition
« Reply #108 on: May 09, 2018, 08:08:14 AM »

Just read the wage budget is 1m for each team with a 100k salary cap...no chance of attracting any of the top players paying them that little

CPL will be very happy - zero competition from this farce

Isn't that almost double the CPL team salary cap (which has larger squads as well)?
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Re: New T20/100 balls Competition
« Reply #109 on: May 09, 2018, 09:23:29 AM »

"this new audience won't necessarily know who Stokes and Root are anyway."

Oh dear! That statement is horrendous. Like kids are really going to know who someone like a Darren Stevens is compared to Ben Stokes  :o

Big names make the comp attractive and as soon as parents realise they won't be playing, numbers will decline far quicker than current T20.
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Re: New T20 Competition
« Reply #110 on: May 13, 2018, 01:43:19 AM »

I think the answer is a balance between things. overall the more justice there is the game, the law of nature will prevail and win.

possible

1. things save time:

a. have 10 overs straight from each end. total of 20 overs in an innings. saving of 18 * 45 secs per innings. 13 and half mins. each innings. about 27 mins per match. Nearly half an hour!
b. limit run ups to eg inside the 30 yard circle, thus saving extra long run ups. few secs per ball.
c. have two bowlers bowling at one time, if they have the same action. eg seam bowlers with seam bowlers and slow bowlers with slow bowlers
it allows bowlers with 30 yard run ups to walk back to their mark whilst the second seamer who has a long run to bowl one, and then take in turns till both bowl 6 each finishing a 12 bowl (2) over. keeps the run of play going and the number of action potentials fired per min to increase. (science terminology)

2.
a, have batmans to face a limited number of balls, just like bowlers have 4*6= 24 balls each.
each batsman gets 50 balls max. unless 9 wickets have fallen he can come back after temporarily retiring. 

All this easily practiced and proved with children. If they can adjust and have more fun, as the play is almost consistent , then it will be for adults as well.
one thing kids don't like is standing still doing nothing. the two bowlers bowling at the same time allows much more play then one ball per 45 secs. proved to work.
also kids don't like to not bat, if opening batman score a century each or top order i.e top 4 score all the runs what do remaining batsman do? they don't get bat. everyone likes to bat, but with 20 overs we cant have the mindset for a test match or odi, ie. bat till you get out. or overs are bowled out. not fair.

3. have new run system for boundaries:
4 changes to a 5
6 changes to a 7
100 meter + six is given a bonus to 8.
120 meter + six you get a 10.

1 single changes to a 2 and so on till a all run 4 = 5

idea is to allow batsman to reach 100 more so to celebrate a century. bigger scores are more exciting eg 300 scored in 20 overs. etc..

4. make drs 'if its out its out'. Simple. third umpire to intervene if wrong decision is given. Not limit to 1 review per innings. what happens if on the first ball of the innings a batsman wrongly reviews and so the remaining 19.5 overs the team is left with a review, and wrong decisions are given. not fair. reverse also applied if a bowler wrongly appeals on the first ball, so the remaining 19.5 overs no review for the fielding side, and potentially lots of wrong decision not going their way. not fair.

 If umpires become less important, so be it. Unless its umpires call, to keep the ' owzat appeal' in the game. The umpires, are are not more important then the game. They are they for the game, not the game for them. Make it perfectly fair, (minus the umpires call bit expect for hitting the wicket. ).

b. if the ball hits the wickets its out, not 49.9% as the error is only 2% not 49.9 % therefore 5% margin is given only on hitting the wickets not for outside leg or outside the line...



 
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Re: New T20/100 balls Competition
« Reply #111 on: July 19, 2018, 08:32:24 AM »

So the latest news to come out of 'The Hundred' or should i say 'The Madness'.......

1. 10 ball over at the end has been scrapped

2. It will now be 20x5 ball overs to make it 100 balls

3. Teams will bowl ten balls from one end but captains will have a choice of whether to split the deliveries between two bowlers.

3. Therefore captains could be given the option of keeping bowlers on for two overs in succession

4. Bowlers can bowl a max of 4 overs - eg. 20 balls

5. Trial matches to be held at Trent Bridge (men) and Loughborough (women) in September

6. It looks increasingly likely that England players will be made available for the first two rounds of the Hundred and the finals day when it is launched in 2020 in order to give the tournament more star quality

Thoughts?? if i didn't know already..... lol....
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Re: New T20/100 balls Competition
« Reply #112 on: July 19, 2018, 08:36:17 AM »

Sounds like an overcomplicated load of bollox - I'll give it a swerve.

It'll have changed 10 times over by the time 2020 comes around, hard to get excited about.
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Re: New T20/100 balls Competition
« Reply #113 on: July 19, 2018, 09:04:13 AM »

What a farce.

Why release the rules, then change them - it just shows that they aren't confident in it. Therefore making it a joke.
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Re: New T20/100 balls Competition
« Reply #114 on: July 19, 2018, 09:08:26 AM »

Barely cricket anymore, sure we could also have 10 players rather than 11 to 'help people understand'. Maybe just one stump at each end too.
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Re: New T20/100 balls Competition
« Reply #115 on: July 19, 2018, 09:15:28 AM »

Cricket in a nutshell.


The current format is losing players at grass roots, many counties struggling for fans(some aren’t, but most are).
But the purists won’t even let a new style, format etc even begin without bringing it down.


I remember when t20 came out.

Fans
“What’s the point”
“Pros playing midweek cricket, lol”

Even counties
“Well let the youth teams take this”
“It’s a game for the second teamers to shine”
“Spinners will be lost from the game”


Seems  I have worked though.


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Re: New T20/100 balls Competition
« Reply #116 on: July 19, 2018, 09:32:09 AM »

Cricket in a nutshell.


The current format is losing players at grass roots, many counties struggling for fans(some aren’t, but most are).
But the purists won’t even let a new style, format etc even begin without bringing it down.


I remember when t20 came out.


Fans
“What’s the point”
“Pros playing midweek cricket, lol”

Even counties
“Well let the youth teams take this”
“It’s a game for the second teamers to shine”
“Spinners will be lost from the game”


Seems  I have worked though.




What I don’t understand is what’s difference 40 balls are going to make? I think it won’t attract that many new people. The thing that will is having it on free to air tv, instead of sky and bt. That’s partly why the 2005 ashes was so big because it was on channel 5, so everyone could see it not sky sports.
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Re: New T20/100 balls Competition
« Reply #117 on: July 19, 2018, 09:42:59 AM »

Cricket in a nutshell.


The current format is losing players at grass roots, many counties struggling for fans(some aren’t, but most are).
But the purists won’t even let a new style, format etc even begin without bringing it down.


I remember when t20 came out.

Fans
“What’s the point”
“Pros playing midweek cricket, lol”

Even counties
“Well let the youth teams take this”
“It’s a game for the second teamers to shine”
“Spinners will be lost from the game”


Seems  I have worked though.

How far do we bend just to make it popular, is there a line somewhere for you that isn't unacceptable?
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Re: New T20/100 balls Competition
« Reply #118 on: July 19, 2018, 09:47:04 AM »

Cricket in a nutshell.


The current format is losing players at grass roots, many counties struggling for fans(some aren’t, but most are).
But the purists won’t even let a new style, format etc even begin without bringing it down.


I remember when t20 came out.

Fans
“What’s the point”
“Pros playing midweek cricket, lol”

Even counties
“Well let the youth teams take this”
“It’s a game for the second teamers to shine”
“Spinners will be lost from the game”


Seems  I have worked though.


The pro's may have initially been sneery, but I don't remember any amateur cricketers who met the news of a county T20 tournament with anything other than enthusiasm. If anything it seemed long overdue.

After all: a) we all played T20 already and knew what a good format it was, and b) most of us couldn't spare an entire day to go and watch cricket, but an evening was distinctly doable.

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Re: New T20/100 balls Competition
« Reply #119 on: July 19, 2018, 09:54:11 AM »

So the latest news to come out of 'The Hundred' or should i say 'The Madness'.......

1. 10 ball over at the end has been scrapped

2. It will now be 20x5 ball overs to make it 100 balls

3. Teams will bowl ten balls from one end but captains will have a choice of whether to split the deliveries between two bowlers.

3. Therefore captains could be given the option of keeping bowlers on for two overs in succession

4. Bowlers can bowl a max of 4 overs - eg. 20 balls

5. Trial matches to be held at Trent Bridge (men) and Loughborough (women) in September

6. It looks increasingly likely that England players will be made available for the first two rounds of the Hundred and the finals day when it is launched in 2020 in order to give the tournament more star quality

Thoughts?? if i didn't know already..... lol....

The format is obviously stupid and ill-considered, any fool can see that. It doesn't have any advantages over the existing T20 format, in fact it quite clearly makes it more complicated and counter-intuitive for new fans to follow.

HOWEVER: the format is the least worst thing about the idea. Having 2 T20 tournaments running in competition with each other was even more dumb. At least by becoming a complete laughing stock, the 100 has the virtue of making the blast look serious and dignified by comparison.


Why cant domestic cricket just do things simply. 1) A 4 day tournament, in a pyramid structure with 8-10 elite regional teams playing "test matches" once a fortnight, 2) a T20 tournament with 4 divisions of 10 each playing each other home and away on Friday night and Sunday afternoons, meaning that the minor counties can get involved, and a home nations 50 over competition every September. That's it.



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