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Re: India v England Test Series
« Reply #1410 on: December 13, 2016, 12:34:01 PM »

yep.....exactly

you cant argue with @Seniorplayer Woakes has not had a good series. the runs lower down are missing and no penetration with the ball. It's just about the same with everyone else. I would still have him in the side perhaps where we differ.

But people are allowed a different opinion...after all it's a forum

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and what makes it great. Reports of our  death are greatly exaggerated haha  :) :)

I would have Woakes in at moment to but with Woody, Ball, plunkett (on right surface) and Tom Curren,  I think Woakes needs to look over his shoulder. To be honest I don't think Jimmy will be playing for England 2018 home series and Broad seems to play 2 test matches then misses 2. Not exactly a "sick note" but time waits for no one... ;)
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Re: India v England Test Series
« Reply #1411 on: December 13, 2016, 12:46:14 PM »

I would have Woakes in at moment to but with Woody, Ball, plunkett (on right surface) and Tom Curren,  I think Woakes needs to look over his shoulder. To be honest I don't think Jimmy will be playing for England 2018 home series and Broad seems to play 2 test matches then misses 2. Not exactly a "sick note" but time waits for no one... ;)

Broad is a concern im not sure flogging him any more in a series we are 0 -3 down in benefits anyone to be honest. Jimmy has had a long lay off he should be ok.

Wood I really hope i'm wrong but his injuries so far tell me unless he bucks history with fast bowlers who have got badly injured in their 20's he will have a short career. Or lose pace significantly.

hope im wrong, he's scarily fast on any surface.....and he reverses it which has been totally missing in India.
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Re: India v England Test Series
« Reply #1412 on: December 13, 2016, 01:13:02 PM »

Woakes stays -  he was the best bowler last summer and is a natural successor to Anderson but better with the bat.

If he ends up at 10 we will have a long tail!
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Re: India v England Test Series
« Reply #1413 on: December 13, 2016, 01:18:53 PM »

Woakes' ability in English conditions has never been in doubt. 300 odd F/C wickets at 24. He'd clueless when there's no swing
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Re: India v England Test Series
« Reply #1414 on: December 13, 2016, 01:23:54 PM »

Woakes' ability in English conditions has never been in doubt. 300 odd F/C wickets at 24. He'd clueless when there's no swing

a bit like Anderson.... some people say  ;) ;) :o :o :( :(













PS - thats not me by the way  :) :)
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Re: India v England Test Series
« Reply #1415 on: December 13, 2016, 01:27:14 PM »

Updated ICC player rankings out. R Ashwin has become the first Indian bowler to ever break the 900 point barrier. 5th best ranking for a spinner ever.

Kohli has moved within 9 points of Steven Smith.
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Re: India v England Test Series
« Reply #1416 on: December 13, 2016, 01:33:43 PM »

a bit like Anderson.... some people say  ;) ;) :o :o :( :(













PS - thats not me by the way  :) :)

Anderson is coming back from injury he's  taken wickets all around the world
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Re: India v England Test Series
« Reply #1417 on: December 13, 2016, 01:36:19 PM »

interesting Jayant Yadav in at 56 in the batting - thats above KL Rahul, Patal, Gambhir and Saha

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Re: India v England Test Series
« Reply #1418 on: December 13, 2016, 01:42:44 PM »

this is interesting -

http://www.lgiccrankings.com/ranking/test/batting/

then hover over the 'mens test statistics' and there is a 'best ever ratings' to click on -

Batting is Bradman 961 points in 1948

Bowling - SF Barnes 932 points in 1914

putting it into perspective currently no.1 batting is Smith on 897 points and no.1 bowling is Ashwin on 904 points.

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Re: India v England Test Series
« Reply #1419 on: December 13, 2016, 01:46:00 PM »

Talking of fringe seamers, those knocking at the door etc - has anyone actually seen Sam Curran bowl?

I believe he is a left-armer, and therefore may offer some variety to the attack. He's in the Lions squad, is he any good - could he jump the queue?
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Re: India v England Test Series
« Reply #1420 on: December 13, 2016, 01:48:24 PM »

this is interesting -

the best ever ratings -

Batting is Bradman 961 points in 1948

http://www.lgiccrankings.com/ranking/test/batting/

Bowling - SF Barnes 932 points in 1914


putting it into perspective currently no.1 batting is Smith on 897 points and no.1 bowling is Ashwin on 904 points.




http://www.lgiccrankings.com/ranking/test/batting/


No disrespect to Ashwin but this is why stats can be ssssooooo misleading... 
How many of those points have been amassed during the past 12 months AWAY from India...
Same with Steve "flat track from a drop in pitch" smith...
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Re: India v England Test Series
« Reply #1421 on: December 13, 2016, 01:48:37 PM »

Woakes stays -  he was the best bowler last summer and is a natural successor to Anderson but better with the bat.

If he ends up at 10 we will have a long tail!

I think Sri Lanka were a poor side and Pakistan  struggled with  the cold weather   picticualy up at Durham .
Let's see what woakes  and the others can do when the tests start in July when the sun pops out that  should  help tell us who  replaces Anderson
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Re: India v England Test Series
« Reply #1422 on: December 13, 2016, 01:49:26 PM »

this is interesting -

http://www.lgiccrankings.com/ranking/test/batting/

then hover over the 'mens test statistics' and there is a 'best ever ratings' to click on -

Batting is Bradman 961 points in 1948

Bowling - SF Barnes 932 points in 1914

putting it into perspective currently no.1 batting is Smith on 897 points and no.1 bowling is Ashwin on 904 points.

Steven Smith's all time best was 936
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Re: India v England Test Series
« Reply #1423 on: December 13, 2016, 01:51:39 PM »

No disrespect to Ashwin but this is why stats can be ssssooooo misleading... 
How many of those points have been amassed during the past 12 months AWAY from India...
Same with Steve "flat track from a drop in pitch" smith...
So Smith's 3 100s in England where a figure of my imagination?  :o
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Re: India v England Test Series
« Reply #1424 on: December 13, 2016, 01:52:37 PM »

Talking of fringe seamers, those knocking at the door etc - has anyone actually seen Sam Curran bowl?

I believe he is a left-armer, and therefore may offer some variety to the attack. He's in the Lions squad, is he any good - could he jump the queue?

I would personally have him and Tom in.the one day squad for champions trophy...
Both excellent bowlers and deserve chance above Jordan, Finn and Woakes. Sams batting has really come on. As shown in recent lions tour, he and Tom can get their heads down and score runs if there has been a collapse..
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