Topic: Ashes 2017-18 (Read 407304 times)

ProCricketer1982 · « **Reply #2430 on:** December 24, 2017, 02:58:27 PM »

Quote from: InternalTraining on December 24, 2017, 02:34:38 PM

Media has been very tough on Root. They are not wrong but it seems unusually harsh!

http://www.espncricinfo.com/story/_/id/21852852/england-need-little-boy-joe-root-step-ricky-ponting

http://www.espncricinfo.com/story/_/id/21861603/joe-root-got-listen-dawid-malan

Pro sport and being paid mega bucks., it should be a lot more honest and harsh than it is tbh

ppccopener · « **Reply #2431 on:** December 24, 2017, 02:59:45 PM »

Quote from: InternalTraining on December 24, 2017, 02:34:38 PM

Media has been very tough on Root. They are not wrong but it seems unusually harsh!

http://www.espncricinfo.com/story/_/id/21852852/england-need-little-boy-joe-root-step-ricky-ponting

http://www.espncricinfo.com/story/_/id/21861603/joe-root-got-listen-dawid-malan

Yes they have been, Root finds himself in an uncomfortable position-as I mentioned earlier the reliance on Stokes is huge

I think this tour may see a new group emerging to take the team forward. Ponting is harsh but can you disagree with his comments?

Stoneman,Stokes,Root maybe malan and James Vince, if as Chappell says, can tough it out, maybe the new group

Anderson and broad had a big say under Cook. I don�t think Root should be captain-but if he is he needs a group going with him.A young captain needs help-time for some to step forward

InternalTraining · « **Reply #2432 on:** December 24, 2017, 03:30:30 PM »

^ I suspect they all see that captaincy for Root is a mistake. England are better off with Root just batting and scoring runs. Leave captaincy to a player who has lot more grit than Root.

ppccopener · « **Reply #2433 on:** December 24, 2017, 03:44:21 PM »

Quote from: InternalTraining on December 24, 2017, 03:30:30 PM

^ I suspect they all see that captaincy for Root is a mistake. England are better off with Root just batting and scoring runs. Leave captaincy to a player who has lot more grit than Root.

Totally agree. Too much is made of who captains the team in the modern era.

People can hark back to players being better in their day-aside from Pietersen and Gooch, Root is the best player I�ve seen in 30 years watching England. The team needs his runs.

Mister Le Chiffre · « **Reply #2434 on:** December 24, 2017, 03:47:45 PM »

Quote from: Number4 on December 24, 2017, 11:18:11 AM

Why wouldn�t you just play Mason Crane then?

Crane bowls a lot of rubbish, usually a left arm spinner offers more control. Either to be used attack or defence. Can't be going in with Moeen and Crane, Smith would have a field day

Seniorplayer · « **Reply #2435 on:** December 24, 2017, 03:50:15 PM »

Quote from: ppccopener on December 24, 2017, 03:44:21 PM

Totally agree. Too much is made of who captains the team in the modern era.

People can hark back to players being better in their day-aside from Pietersen and Gooch, Root is the best player I�ve seen in 30 years watching England. The team needs his runs.

Also root needs to show he can score big runs in OZ no excuses the pitches suit his back foot batting

Northern monkey · « **Reply #2436 on:** December 24, 2017, 04:06:19 PM »

Not just Root has to score big
Cooks gotta justify his place too, with a few big scores
I keep getting told , cooks wonderful still etc, and has 3000 runs in him yet etc etc

I just don't want him to take 5yrs to score them, it's not like his fielding warrants him a game.

Cook,Jimmy and broad big immediate question marks.
But they'll be allowed to plod on, and dictate terms to the ecb and the paying public I suspect

Seniorplayer · « **Reply #2437 on:** December 24, 2017, 06:01:48 PM »

Quote from: Northern monkey on December 24, 2017, 04:06:19 PM

Not just Root has to score big
Cooks gotta justify his place too, with a few big scores
I keep getting told , cooks wonderful still etc, and has 3000 runs in him yet etc etc

I just don't want him to take 5yrs to score them, it's not like his fielding warrants him a game.

Cook,Jimmy and broad big immediate question marks.
But they'll be allowed to plod on, and dictate terms to the ecb and the paying public I suspect

Thoughts were more Roots scored runs everywhere except in Aus.

Northern monkey · « **Reply #2438 on:** December 24, 2017, 06:22:44 PM »

With everything that's gone on in the run up to the ashes starting and off field idiocy I'm not surprised roots concentration has lapsed a coupla times
Upto the management to rein their squad in , not the on field captain

Number4 · « **Reply #2439 on:** December 24, 2017, 09:32:29 PM »

Quote from: ppccopener on December 24, 2017, 01:36:41 PM

A couple and a rehandle from the last match as that got broken.

If you bat against a new ball on hard tracks against quicks bats get damaged.

I'd be a lot happier if our top 6 had all had damaged or broken bats, it means we would of spent more time at the crease.

You never played a club match your mate turns up with a 600 quid salix/Newbery/millichamp and then says he is batting 7 to avoid the new ball?

I�ve seen some of the best bats made by one of the best in the business being used, loaned to other players to use no matter who they are or where they bat. I�m sure most on here would know who owns said bats by now.

csnew · « **Reply #2440 on:** December 25, 2017, 07:50:36 AM »

Quote from: Northern monkey on December 24, 2017, 06:22:44 PM

With everything that's gone on in the run up to the ashes starting and off field idiocy I'm not surprised roots concentration has lapsed a coupla times
Upto the management to rein their squad in , not the on field captain

Fair assessment to say that root can�t bat in Australia

. I�m sure if smith and Kohli had failed as many times in English conditions the English would be saying �but he can�t bat in England �.

14 innings in aus averaging 28 with no 100s

six and out · « **Reply #2441 on:** December 25, 2017, 08:19:16 AM »

Team announced-

Cook
Stoneman
Vince
Root
Malan
Bairstow
Ali
Woakes
Curran
Broad
Anderson

So just 1 change Curran in for the injured Overton. Can't believe Crane isn't playing.

If it is only this change it makes you wonder if they would have made any changes at all if Overton was fit.

cricketbadger · « **Reply #2442 on:** December 25, 2017, 10:20:37 AM »

Quote from: six and out on December 25, 2017, 08:19:16 AM

Team announced-

Cook
Stoneman
Vince
Root
Malan
Bairstow
Ali
Woakes
Curran
Broad
Anderson

So just 1 change Curran in for the injured Overton. Can't believe Crane isn't playing.

If it is only this change it makes you wonder if they would have made any changes at all if Overton was fit.

Unfuckingbelievable, perfect chance to have a look at a couple of new lads, if anyone else had returned Broads match figures from the last test and the series on a whole, theyd be dropped. Don't even get me started on Ali still being the spinner, I'd rather chuck Malan the ball first

Northern monkey · « **Reply #2443 on:** December 25, 2017, 10:49:40 AM »

Bet the Aussie batsmen can't wait!

Seniorplayer · « **Reply #2444 on:** December 25, 2017, 10:50:33 AM »

Ashes gone less pressure on Seems like a good time for curran crane debuts or maybe they don't want another Kerrigan and only took Crane for the squad experience and are saving him for helpful 2018 UK tracks

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