Topic: Ashes 2017-18 (Read 407618 times)

Seniorplayer · « **Reply #2850 on:** January 06, 2018, 02:56:15 PM »

Quote from: Bats_Entertainment on January 06, 2018, 12:19:38 PM

He doesn't have to land any part of his front foot behind the line. He merely has to have some of it behind the line when his foot lands.

Learn the laws of cricket and then move on?

Absolutly correct.

Big Mac · « **Reply #2851 on:** January 06, 2018, 04:09:25 PM »

Quote from: it's_a_pudding on January 06, 2018, 02:52:44 PM

Also if the umpire actually starts looking for no balls again this would have been prevented as he would have been called overs before and would have been behind the line. Same with the Curran one. As for the rule can't help but think the future of bowling boots will have a nice extended heel on them.

I agree with this. If umpires aren't going to watch it on the field then there needs to be a dedicated umpire calling no-balls from the stands.

Having said that, the onus is on the players themselves to sort out their bloody run ups. How often do you see bowlers over stepping by miles in the nets and nobody ever calls them out on it? If someone does point out that they landed a foot and a half beyond the crease the reply is invariably some variant of "Oh don't worry, it'll be alright in a game".

I find it difficult to have sympathy with bowlers that over step.

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As for the ashes I maintain if the series was in England the result would have been very different. Their bowling attack has been alot better on those dead wickets. The same things were being said after we toured India and people were saying it wasn't just because they were in India this Indian team could win anywhere look at them in South Africa they look clueless after one innings and it isn't even swinging half as much as it would in the UK.

It's not the bowling that let the team down in this series. Doesn't matter how good your bowling attack is when you are consistently scoring 150 below par in your first innings. English batsmen have constantly got starts and not gone on to convert them into big scores, whereas the Aussie batsmen have scored more slowly but have been determined to go on and make the most of their opportunities.

ppccopener · « **Reply #2852 on:** January 06, 2018, 04:48:17 PM »

Spot on with those comments. The bowling is toothless but it's Groundhog Day for the batting again

About 100 short and we have been all tests . It's been remarkably consistent

We got 350 when it should be 450/500

On flat decks our bowling struggles, we need big totals otherwise Australia are never going to be under pressure

Manormanic · « **Reply #2853 on:** January 06, 2018, 07:09:21 PM »

Following on from a lengthy conversation last evening, I have a thread/challenge in mind. To assist, I need volunteers from the England and Australian sides of this thread to volunteer as "selectors". If you're interested, PM me?

FattusCattus · « **Reply #2854 on:** January 06, 2018, 07:15:26 PM »

Sad indictment on England�s cricket that the recent chat on here is about no-balls and commentators!! 😁

Biggie Smalls · « **Reply #2855 on:** January 06, 2018, 08:53:50 PM »

Quote from: it's_a_pudding on January 06, 2018, 02:52:44 PM

Also if the umpire actually starts looking for no balls again this would have been prevented as he would have been called overs before and would have been behind the line. Same with the Curran one. As for the rule can't help but think the future of bowling boots will have a nice extended heel on them.

As for the ashes I maintain if the series was in England the result would have been very different. Their bowling attack has been alot better on those dead wickets. The same things were being said after we toured India and people were saying it wasn't just because they were in India this Indian team could win anywhere look at them in South Africa they look clueless after one innings and it isn't even swinging half as much as it would in the UK.

I dont think many aussies are saying we can win anywhere , or even that we would definitely, or likely, win in uk even . I think most aussies just reckon we'd do better (ie not lose as badly , be more competive) if this series was being played in the uk . 4-0(17/18) vs 2-3(15) kind of backs that up , dont you think ?

WalkingWicket37 · « **Reply #2856 on:** January 06, 2018, 08:56:24 PM »

Quote from: it's_a_pudding on January 06, 2018, 02:52:44 PM

Also if the umpire actually starts looking for no balls again this would have been prevented as he would have been called overs before and would have been behind the line. Same with the Curran one. As for the rule can't help but think the future of bowling boots will have a nice extended heel on them.

Actually, the umpire had been watching Curran's front foot...

http://www.espncricinfo.com/story/_/id/21881443/tom-curran-reveals-truth-no-ball-agony

smilley792 · « **Reply #2857 on:** January 06, 2018, 09:09:25 PM »

I'm English.

Aus are better than us, by how much I'm. Not sure. Probably just abit?

But I can't help but fear the gulf will widen.

English in aus, 4 nil will flatter us. It should be 5 nil.

Aus in England, I doubt we will ever white wash them, they will always get a test or 2.

Smith vs root, Smith is better an dmore consistent at mo. Root needs to crack on, will smiths purple patch ever end(it doesn't look like it).

Lyon vs any of our spinners. Lyon has much more control and experience.

Seam bowler's. Anderson is good in right conditions. But can't have that many years left. Broads passed it, and the bunch of woakes, Overton, trj, Curran, and ball offer nothing on flat tracks.
Cummins and starc offer raw pace, useful anywhere and there young! Hazelwood has decent pace and looks on the spot.

Other batsmen.
Cook will retire. Malan looks okay, rest is bare.
Smith and Warner are okay, khawaja at home, but rest is bare too.

Gonna be tough for England for a whole if you ask me for the next few years.....

And it was a no ball.

Biggie Smalls · « **Reply #2858 on:** January 06, 2018, 10:08:35 PM »

Quote from: smilley792 on January 06, 2018, 09:09:25 PM

I'm English.

Aus are better than us, by how much I'm. Not sure. Probably just abit?

But I can't help but fear the gulf will widen.

English in aus, 4 nil will flatter us. It should be 5 nil.

Aus in England, I doubt we will ever white wash them, they will always get a test or 2.

Smith vs root, Smith is better an dmore consistent at mo. Root needs to crack on, will smiths purple patch ever end(it doesn't look like it).

Lyon vs any of our spinners. Lyon has much more control and experience.

Seam bowler's. Anderson is good in right conditions. But can't have that many years left. Broads passed it, and the bunch of woakes, Overton, trj, Curran, and ball offer nothing on flat tracks.
Cummins and starc offer raw pace, useful anywhere and there young! Hazelwood has decent pace and looks on the spot.

Other batsmen.
Cook will retire. Malan looks okay, rest is bare.
Smith and Warner are okay, khawaja at home, but rest is bare too.

Gonna be tough for England for a whole if you ask me for the next few years.....

And it was a no ball.

Bravo, bravo . Encore, encore !

shadowlight · « **Reply #2859 on:** January 07, 2018, 12:07:49 AM »

What is Joe Root thinking about using spinners early in the morning with new ball

ppccopener · « **Reply #2860 on:** January 07, 2018, 12:08:02 AM »

We don't look like getting a wicket here but Anderson showing he is still the best we got by miles

No revs on the ball from Ali there's just not enough on it to do anything

Gone to bed

Mister Le Chiffre · « **Reply #2861 on:** January 07, 2018, 12:12:03 AM »

Handscombe and Maxwell must be suicidal seeing Mitch Marsh dipping his bread. I know I am...

WalkingWicket37 · « **Reply #2862 on:** January 07, 2018, 12:14:47 AM »

Broad not taking the new nut, and Ali sending down half trackers with it...
Can we just declare the series a 4-0 defeat and end it now, this is just embarrassing...

smilley792 · « **Reply #2863 on:** January 07, 2018, 12:48:42 AM »

When broad did come on, Mitchell Marsh fiested on him like it was an all you can eat buffet.

Curran ball did abit.

Big Mac · « **Reply #2864 on:** January 07, 2018, 03:49:18 AM »

Oh Chef, could have played an easy front foot defence to that but played back and made it look like a world class delivery

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