Topic: England Vs India Test Matches (Read 162034 times)

Seniorplayer · « **Reply #75 on:** July 25, 2018, 04:50:13 PM »

Quote from: SD on July 25, 2018, 02:44:45 PM

Woakes has been a shadow of the player he was over the last few years since he came back from the torn muscle he suffered last summer. Hopefully he can regain his previous form but 12 months on, it does raise the threat that it was a career changing injury

Woakes done nothing in an England test shirt home or abroad for two years before last summers injury.

six and out · « **Reply #76 on:** July 25, 2018, 06:29:45 PM »

So the Guardian are reporting that Mo is going to be getting a recall as part of a 13 man squad with 2 spinners in it to give Root options pitch dependent etc...

The batting stays the same and then the extra seamer spot will probably be between Woakes and Sam Curran but there might be a call up for Jamie Overton if they want pace as Wood is injured.

Squad - Cook, Jennings, Root, Malan, Bairstow, Stokes, Butler, Broad, Anderson, Mo, Leach, Woakes, Curran or Jamie Overton

Article link below -

https://amp.theguardian.com/sport/2018/jul/25/moeen-ali-recall-england-test-squad-india?__twitter_impression=true

Johnny · « **Reply #77 on:** July 25, 2018, 06:52:19 PM »

Bringing mo back seems a backward step, especially to bat no higher than 8. Would rather Bess got another go

ppccopener · « **Reply #78 on:** July 25, 2018, 06:56:43 PM »

Yes the guardian seems to get most right they had an article last week about a recall for Moeen. You can see why they want a confident and fit Mo in the team but I can't help thinking myself it just muddies the water long term.

The thing I don't get with England is Bess played the last game to replace Leach....Leach is now fit so he may come back...that's logical....but why would you pick Ali over Bess who played the last test match?

Whenever I see an England side these days I can't help scratching my head. I don't think Woakes is fit and Wood is never going to be long term

We will need 3 spinners in the winter, that's for sure, and that might be leach,Bess,Ali....but we don't need three spinners now

Bess will essentially be dropped if Ali is recalled, which seems wrong

Have England chucked the long term planning out the window? Or did we never have any? Or is it right in the first place?

Lots of questions here but no riddles

Where's that bloomin crocodile in Cambridge got to....

six and out · « **Reply #79 on:** July 25, 2018, 07:48:30 PM »

Quote from: ppccopener on July 25, 2018, 06:56:43 PM

Yes the guardian seems to get most right they had an article last week about a recall for Moeen. You can see why they want a confident and fit Mo in the team but I can't help thinking myself it just muddies the water long term.

The thing I don't get with England is Bess played the last game to replace Leach....Leach is now fit so he may come back...that's logical....but why would you pick Ali over Bess who played the last test match?

Whenever I see an England side these days I can't help scratching my head. I don't think Woakes is fit and Wood is never going to be long term

We will need 3 spinners in the winter, that's for sure, and that might be leach,Bess,Ali....but we don't need three spinners now

Bess will essentially be dropped if Ali is recalled, which seems wrong

Have England chucked the long term planning out the window? Or did we never have any? Or is it right in the first place?

Lots of questions here but no riddles

Where's that bloomin crocodile in Cambridge got to....

I can see why Mo has been recalled but as long as it as the 2nd spinner, because when you think about it that is all he ever was a batter that bowls good spin etc... So he makes the ideal 2nd spinner because to play a 2nd spinner we will probably drop a batsman, and Mo then gets picked ahead of Bess as the better batsman.

If you play Leach and Bess is our batting simply to weak? Whereas Leach and Mo is a little different?

Manormanic · « **Reply #80 on:** July 25, 2018, 07:51:01 PM »

This really depends whether we are talking about a second spinner as part of a five or six man attack. If its five, then we should pick the best spinner. If six, then Mo is in with a chance as a number seven bat who bowls. Thing is, I can't see who they would drop to get to a six man attack. More likely he is in the squad so it looks okay when he plays the second game in lieu of Wor Sturkes...

ppccopener · « **Reply #81 on:** July 25, 2018, 07:58:19 PM »

Quote from: six and out on July 25, 2018, 07:48:30 PM

I can see why Mo has been recalled but as long as it as the 2nd spinner, because when you think about it that is all he ever was a batter that bowls good spin etc... So he makes the ideal 2nd spinner because to play a 2nd spinner we will probably drop a batsman, and Mo then gets picked ahead of Bess as the better batsman.

If you play Leach and Bess is our batting simply to weak? Whereas Leach and Mo is a little different?

Hmmmm, I see what you mean but to get 2 spinners in we might drop a specialist batsman to play 2 sub standard batsman? Or at least 2 non specialist batsman...put it that way. Mo is def a batsman but whether he is test class above number 7 is debateable(he inst in my book).

Butler is in the team as a specialist batsman, he would be the only batsman that could be left out.

I'm not sure that makes any sense....

The pet hate
thread has scrambled my brain, what cells I have have gone, if we play two spinners would we not drop a seamer?

Ayrtek Cricket · « **Reply #82 on:** July 25, 2018, 07:59:38 PM »

Off to day 1 with 22 of my club members... fancy dress as village people due to the fact we are Bristol YMCA CC.

Looking forward to what will hopefully be a cracking day, that�s if I survive he mini bus up there!

six and out · « **Reply #83 on:** July 25, 2018, 08:10:40 PM »

Quote from: Ayrtek Cricket on July 25, 2018, 07:59:38 PM

Off to day 1 with 22 of my club members... fancy dress as village people due to the fact we are Bristol YMCA CC.

Looking forward to what will hopefully be a cracking day, that�s if I survive he mini bus up there!

Excellent! I shall keep a look out for you all on the telebox. I needed to use up some holiday at work so I booked next week off so I could sit at home on the sofa and watch the cricket

six and out · « **Reply #84 on:** July 25, 2018, 08:17:05 PM »

Quote from: Manormanic on July 25, 2018, 07:51:01 PM

This really depends whether we are talking about a second spinner as part of a five or six man attack. If its five, then we should pick the best spinner. If six, then Mo is in with a chance as a number seven bat who bowls. Thing is, I can't see who they would drop to get to a six man attack. More likely he is in the squad so it looks okay when he plays the second game in lieu of Wor Sturkes...

Malan is the batter quoted as the one who would be dropped to get Mo in to give you a 6 man attack with 2 spinners.

Essentially you would have -

Cook, Jennings, Root, Bairstow, Stokes, Butler, Mo, Woakes/Curran/Overton, Leach, Broad, Anderson.

petehosk · « **Reply #85 on:** July 25, 2018, 08:21:10 PM »

Quote from: Ayrtek Cricket on July 25, 2018, 07:59:38 PM

Off to day 1 with 22 of my club members... fancy dress as village people due to the fact we are Bristol YMCA CC.

Looking forward to what will hopefully be a cracking day, that�s if I survive he mini bus up there!

Spill the beans Tom...Which one are you going as?
I reckon the the Red Indian headress is too much for this weather, the leather biker bloke is too hot and sticky! I suspect you will be either construction guy or Cowboy....touting the mandatory tache!!

alexevo94 · « **Reply #86 on:** July 25, 2018, 08:23:35 PM »

Quote from: six and out on July 25, 2018, 08:17:05 PM

Malan is the batter quoted as the one who would be dropped to get Mo in to give you a 6 man attack with 2 spinners.

Essentially you would have -

Cook, Jennings, Root, Bairstow, Stokes, Butler, Mo, Woakes/Curran/Overton, Leach, Broad, Anderson.

Just don�t rate Overton and I hope knowone mentioned ball. Hopefully worked plays he�s basically an allrounder

six and out · « **Reply #87 on:** July 25, 2018, 08:32:28 PM »

Quote from: alexevo94 on July 25, 2018, 08:23:35 PM

Just don�t rate Overton and I hope knowone mentioned ball. Hopefully worked plays he�s basically an allrounder

Ball not been mentioned. It is uncapped Jamie Overton they are talking about not Craig that played in the ashes, if that makes any difference.

alexevo94 · « **Reply #88 on:** July 25, 2018, 08:36:53 PM »

Quote from: six and out on July 25, 2018, 08:32:28 PM

Ball not been mentioned. It is uncapped Jamie Overton they are talking about not Craig that played in the ashes, if that makes any difference.

Sorry my bad, what�s the status on TRJ last time I read about him he was out for the season. That still the case?

SD · « **Reply #89 on:** July 25, 2018, 08:45:54 PM »

Quote from: Seniorplayer on July 25, 2018, 04:50:13 PM

Woakes done nothing in an England test shirt home or abroad for two years before last summers injury.

At the start of his test career he bowled barely above medium pace and his swing could be picked up straight away from his arm but he developed in 2016 into an international class bowler. Since his injury he seems to reverted to the standard he bowled at at the start of his international career.

At the moment, the only reason to select his is because he is a decent bat but it is no wonder we struggle to take 20 wickets in a test match when we pick bowlers based on their ability as batsmen

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