England Vs India Test Matches
Advertise on CBF

Pages: 1 ... 9 10 [11] 12 13 ... 117

Author Topic: England Vs India Test Matches  (Read 169573 times)

0 Members and 2 Guests are viewing this topic.

ppccopener

  • Forum Legend
  • ******
  • Offline Offline
  • Posts: 7790
  • Trade Count: (+6)
Re: England Vs India Test Matches
« Reply #150 on: July 27, 2018, 09:38:00 PM »

Looks very much like two spinners to me also.

If it's only one then dragged Rashid around as drinks carrier in the middle of the 2020 I dread to think what might kick off.
 :)
I hope sir Geoff has recovered strongly, we don't want him with more heart problems.

You can imagine this would never of happened in his day
Logged

six and out

  • International Captain
  • ****
  • Offline Offline
  • Posts: 2136
  • Trade Count: (0)
    • MKCC website
Re: England Vs India Test Matches
« Reply #151 on: July 28, 2018, 07:58:44 AM »

Yep I feel Ed Smith really has put Root in an impossible position here. If they turn up at Edgbaston and it's got some grass on it or even if Root doesn't want to play 2 spinners, surely he is forced into playing Rashid whether he wants to or not. If Rashid doesn't play then I think the cricket world world would actually combust!

Personally if we go with 2 spinners I don't think we can afford it to be a 6 man attack with Curran/Porter playing as it means we will lose a batsman when our top order isn't that great anyways! It would need to be the 2 spinners with Broad, Anderson and Stokes.
Logged

ppccopener

  • Forum Legend
  • ******
  • Offline Offline
  • Posts: 7790
  • Trade Count: (+6)
Re: England Vs India Test Matches
« Reply #152 on: July 28, 2018, 08:33:27 AM »

Yep I feel Ed Smith really has put Root in an impossible position here. If they turn up at Edgbaston and it's got some grass on it or even if Root doesn't want to play 2 spinners, surely he is forced into playing Rashid whether he wants to or not. If Rashid doesn't play then I think the cricket world world would actually combust!

Personally if we go with 2 spinners I don't think we can afford it to be a 6 man attack with Curran/Porter playing as it means we will lose a batsman when our top order isn't that great anyways! It would need to be the 2 spinners with Broad, Anderson and Stokes.

Yes a six man attack is too lop sided even if it is dry and you would think the wicket itself will be green at the start even if the outfield is not, this is England after all not Sharjah.if 5 bowlers can't do the job then 6 won't .

But forget the fact Rashid will play if we play two spinners, Rashid is playing if we only play one-surely that will happen you just can't imagine anything else.

Which leaves Root in reality with one choice so yes, whether he wants it or not. I don't think he wants Rashid in myself, no evidence just a feeling as mentioned by Buzz.

I would t be surprised if we only play one spinner and pick Porter because Root might be worried the Indians go after the spinners and he loses control in the field.

I think Cook was always reluctant to play Rashid for that exact reason.

Could be wrong thou  :)
Logged

Seniorplayer

  • Forum Legend
  • ******
  • Offline Offline
  • Posts: 6236
  • Trade Count: (0)
Re: England Vs India Test Matches
« Reply #153 on: July 28, 2018, 08:38:28 AM »

I think after all what's been said and written  all that matters now if Rashid does play he does well.
Logged

six and out

  • International Captain
  • ****
  • Offline Offline
  • Posts: 2136
  • Trade Count: (0)
    • MKCC website
Re: England Vs India Test Matches
« Reply #154 on: July 28, 2018, 09:38:28 AM »

Everyone talking about the England team because of Rashid but India have a few decisions to make as well and it will be interesting to see what side they put out.

No Bumrah or Kumar mean they have Yadav, Ishant and Shami really as their seam options (plus Pandya) and Shami went wicketless against Essex in the warm up.

The 3 spinners only bowled 11 overs between them and also went wicketless in the warm up game.

Then there's Darwan who got a pair and Pujara who only mustered 24 across both innings.

Not for 1 second saying they have problems but just not a straight forward selection.
Logged

Manormanic

  • Forum Legend
  • ******
  • Offline Offline
  • Posts: 6758
  • Trade Count: (+1)
Re: England Vs India Test Matches
« Reply #155 on: July 28, 2018, 09:41:56 AM »

Everyone talking about the England team because of Rashid but India have a few decisions to make as well and it will be interesting to see what side they put out.

No Bumrah or Kumar mean they have Yadav, Ishant and Shami really as their seam options (plus Pandya) and Shami went wicketless against Essex in the warm up.

The 3 spinners only bowled 11 overs between them and also went wicketless in the warm up game.

Then there's Darwan who got a pair and Pujara who only mustered 24 across both innings.

Not for 1 second saying they have problems but just not a straight forward selection.

Pujara has hardly made a first class run since arriving here in April!
Logged
"to be the man, you've got to beat the man"

six and out

  • International Captain
  • ****
  • Offline Offline
  • Posts: 2136
  • Trade Count: (0)
    • MKCC website
Re: England Vs India Test Matches
« Reply #156 on: July 30, 2018, 08:24:44 PM »

1st view of the Edgbaston pitch.... not sure about 2 spinners..

https://twitter.com/GeorgeDobell1/status/1023965031053045760?s=19
Logged

alexevo94

  • County 1st XI
  • ***
  • Offline Offline
  • Posts: 764
  • Trade Count: (+2)
Re: England Vs India Test Matches
« Reply #157 on: July 30, 2018, 08:32:14 PM »

1st view of the Edgbaston pitch.... not sure about 2 spinners..

https://twitter.com/GeorgeDobell1/status/1023965031053045760?s=19

Surprised england haven’t left a lot of grass on, I presume they want the ball to nibble about
Logged

ppccopener

  • Forum Legend
  • ******
  • Offline Offline
  • Posts: 7790
  • Trade Count: (+6)
Re: England Vs India Test Matches
« Reply #158 on: July 30, 2018, 08:45:42 PM »

Is Porters chances of playing getting a bit better?

Outfield looks like it might keep the ball in decent condition too....

Logged

alexhilly1492

  • World Cup Winner
  • *****
  • Offline Offline
  • Posts: 3127
  • Trade Count: (0)
Re: England Vs India Test Matches
« Reply #159 on: July 31, 2018, 12:23:41 PM »

Porter and Ali miss out

Rashid players
Logged
HS: 77*, 73*, 61*, 61*, 54*, 50*
BB: 7-4-9-5, 7.3-0-29-5

six and out

  • International Captain
  • ****
  • Offline Offline
  • Posts: 2136
  • Trade Count: (0)
    • MKCC website
Re: England Vs India Test Matches
« Reply #160 on: July 31, 2018, 12:23:42 PM »

So England are playing 1 spinner and surprise surprise it's Rashid. Curran gets the nod over Porter.

England XI for first Test: Joe Root (capt), James Anderson, Jonny Bairstow (wk), Stuart Broad, Jos Buttler, Alastair Cook, Sam Curran, Keaton Jennings, Dawid Malan, Adil Rashid, Ben Stokes.

England v India: Adil Rashid named as hosts' only spinner for first Test - http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/cricket/45017582
Logged

ppccopener

  • Forum Legend
  • ******
  • Offline Offline
  • Posts: 7790
  • Trade Count: (+6)
Re: England Vs India Test Matches
« Reply #161 on: July 31, 2018, 12:30:55 PM »

pretty much as expected. personally I would of like to have seen Porter as a new player.

I cannot see what Curran adds to the team other than a left armer so a different angle. Clearly the lad has talent but maybe more of a one day player to me.

the Indians are undercooked thou are might be vulnerable early test matches. I say might be because if they graft they have the talent to beat us at home.
Logged

goodarmcindy

  • Club Cricketer
  • **
  • Offline Offline
  • Posts: 145
  • Trade Count: (0)
Re: England Vs India Test Matches
« Reply #162 on: July 31, 2018, 12:32:45 PM »

Nice of England to let Curran create some lovely footholes for Ashwin to bowl into against our bevy of left handers.

EDIT: Yes, I'm talking nonsense here. Going to leave this up as a reminder to myself that I'm an idiot.
« Last Edit: July 31, 2018, 01:13:13 PM by goodarmcindy »
Logged

SLA

  • County 1st XI
  • ***
  • Offline Offline
  • Posts: 785
  • Trade Count: (0)
Re: England Vs India Test Matches
« Reply #163 on: July 31, 2018, 12:34:16 PM »

pretty much as expected. personally I would of like to have seen Porter as a new player.

I cannot see what Curran adds to the team other than a left armer so a different angle. Clearly the lad has talent but maybe more of a one day player to me.

the Indians are undercooked thou are might be vulnerable early test matches. I say might be because if they graft they have the talent to beat us at home.

Never agreed with this angle rubbish. Even an U12 knows that if you adjust your stance, you can make the "angle" of a left-arm over the same as any other bowler. Yes it has a minor effect on lbw's. But its minor at best and probably plays to the batsman's advantage. People who think you're more likely to nick off when the ball is "angled across you" just don't understand basic geometry.
Logged
T20 cricket 1995-present, Saturday league cricket 1997-present.
L3 Cricket Coach, L2 Baseball Coach.
Running total: Countries played cricket in: 7. Counties played cricket in: 14

SLA

  • County 1st XI
  • ***
  • Offline Offline
  • Posts: 785
  • Trade Count: (0)
Re: England Vs India Test Matches
« Reply #164 on: July 31, 2018, 12:35:17 PM »

Nice of England to let Curran create some lovely footholes for Ashwin to bowl into against our bevy of left handers.

Does Ashwin turn it enough to make him a threat bowling wide of leg stump?
Logged
T20 cricket 1995-present, Saturday league cricket 1997-present.
L3 Cricket Coach, L2 Baseball Coach.
Running total: Countries played cricket in: 7. Counties played cricket in: 14
Pages: 1 ... 9 10 [11] 12 13 ... 117
 

Advertise on CBF