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stevat

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Re: England Vs India Test Matches
« Reply #540 on: August 06, 2018, 12:09:33 PM »
Remember the first time I saw GBH bowl, the keeper was nearer the boundary than the wicket, and he was so far away when he started his run up the camber of the Earth meant the batsman couldn't see him.
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Re: England Vs India Test Matches
« Reply #541 on: August 06, 2018, 01:51:35 PM »
Quote from: stevat on August 06, 2018, 12:09:33 PM
Remember the first time I saw GBH bowl, the keeper was nearer the boundary than the wicket, and he was so far away when he started his run up the camber of the Earth meant the batsman couldn't see him.



You blaspheme......the earth is flat i tell ya !  :D
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« Reply #542 on: August 06, 2018, 04:21:17 PM »
Quote from: Bats_Entertainment on August 06, 2018, 09:14:51 AM
I'll probably get slaughtered for saying this, but I think James Vince is a much better batsman than Dawid Malan.

I don't think many would argue that Vince is the better of the two.  I thought Vince was unlucky to lose his place whilst Malan kept his.
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Re: England Vs India Test Matches
« Reply #543 on: August 06, 2018, 04:51:18 PM »
Quote from: SD on August 06, 2018, 04:21:17 PM
I don't think many would argue that Vince is the better of the two.  I thought Vince was unlucky to lose his place whilst Malan kept his.

Well, that's daft given how Malan batted over the winter.
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« Reply #544 on: August 06, 2018, 04:55:56 PM »
Pope for me is a decent call, but I always thought he would replace Buttler if Buttler lost form?
The most logical in my eyes would have been to see Vince given another chance at 3 in home conditions and in decent nick. So Root could move to 4 as he likes to!!
But still include Pope in the squad so that he gets an intro into what it's like to be a part of the team!
Plus Pop is settled in if Buttler continues to perform below par.

Don't get me wrong.....this could be a genius move to put Pope in at 4.  But time will tell!
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« Reply #545 on: August 06, 2018, 05:10:04 PM »
I hope they consider resting Buttler  - or even batting him at 4? - to allow both Woakes and Ali to play in Stokes' absence.
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« Reply #546 on: August 06, 2018, 05:57:52 PM »
Ian Weston did a great article about James Vince if anyone hasn’t read they should. Great insight
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Re: England Vs India Test Matches
« Reply #547 on: August 06, 2018, 06:32:08 PM »
Quote from: petehosk on August 06, 2018, 04:55:56 PM
Pope for me is a decent call, but I always thought he would replace Buttler if Buttler lost form?
The most logical in my eyes would have been to see Vince given another chance at 3 in home conditions and in decent nick. So Root could move to 4 as he likes to!!
But still include Pope in the squad so that he gets an intro into what it's like to be a part of the team!
Plus Pop is settled in if Buttler continues to perform below par.

Don't get me wrong.....this could be a genius move to put Pope in at 4.  But time will tell!

I'm not knocking Pope, but surely, even if only for one match, they have to rejig the batting order and change who takes the gloves?

If Bairstow bats four (or opens, with Jennings at four) and Pope comes in five, maybe even six if Ali gets the nod over Woakes, then the youngster has a much fairer chance of making his mark. 
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Re: England Vs India Test Matches
« Reply #548 on: August 06, 2018, 07:07:17 PM »
Quote from: Manormanic on August 06, 2018, 06:32:08 PM
I'm not knocking Pope, but surely, even if only for one match, they have to rejig the batting order and change who takes the gloves?

If Bairstow bats four (or opens, with Jennings at four) and Pope comes in five, maybe even six if Ali gets the nod over Woakes, then the youngster has a much fairer chance of making his mark. 

Pope doesn't bat top 3 for Surrey so yes you would think ideally he could slot in and others move around him, as used to happen with a young player.

But bairstow might be reluctant to move up further, so Pope slots in directly for Malan.

England I reckon want two spinners in for Lords, I think India could pick 2 maybe 3 as it spun last time.

The only oter way I think to do this and play Pope is leave out Butler.i don't think they will do that but it gets two spinners in.

As mentioned by @edge when push comes to shove and places are so tight is a specialist batter at number 7 or 8 a luxury?
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Re: England Vs India Test Matches
« Reply #549 on: August 06, 2018, 07:42:05 PM »
Butler/YJB at 4/5 for me, not too bothered which way round but probably Bairstow higher. Don't think he'll mind that, definitely the type to grab as high a spot as he can! Then Pope slots in at 6 and choose between Moeen and Woakes based on the pitch. Maybe a gamble playing Butter at 5 but if he can't bat top 5 he shouldn't be selected as a specialist, and he definitely has the ability!
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Re: England Vs India Test Matches
« Reply #550 on: August 06, 2018, 09:20:01 PM »
Quote from: edge on August 06, 2018, 07:42:05 PM
Butler/YJB at 4/5 for me, not too bothered which way round but probably Bairstow higher. Don't think he'll mind that, definitely the type to grab as high a spot as he can! Then Pope slots in at 6 and choose between Moeen and Woakes based on the pitch. Maybe a gamble playing Butter at 5 but if he can't bat top 5 he shouldn't be selected as a specialist, and he definitely has the ability!
This.
Pope should start at 6.
Buttler is now the Vice Captain so should take some man up. Either he is a good enough batter or he is not.
Personally I think he is.
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Re: England Vs India Test Matches
« Reply #551 on: August 07, 2018, 01:40:22 AM »
I like Ali and would like to see him selected but does anyone think there may be an issue if he's up the order ? I'm just thinking there's achance Ashwin could do a job on him similar to Lyon in the ashes .
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Re: England Vs India Test Matches
« Reply #552 on: August 07, 2018, 05:58:25 AM »
Quote from: alexevo94 on August 06, 2018, 05:57:52 PM
Ian Weston did a great article about James Vince if anyone hasn’t read they should. Great insight

Hey do you have a link to this article?
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Re: England Vs India Test Matches
« Reply #553 on: August 07, 2018, 09:13:19 AM »
Talk of Pope batting at 6? Surely you'd take Ali in that position and have the extra spin option?
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Re: England Vs India Test Matches
« Reply #554 on: August 07, 2018, 09:23:00 AM »
Quote from: Bats_Entertainment on August 07, 2018, 09:13:19 AM
Talk of Pope batting at 6? Surely you'd take Ali in that position and have the extra spin option?
If we want the extra spin option then select Ali at 7? That gives you two spinners in a 5 man attack.
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