Topic: 2020 season (Read 41417 times)

alba caerulea · « **Reply #210 on:** September 21, 2020, 09:40:30 PM »

Quote from: procricket on September 21, 2020, 07:35:38 PM

Do you really know your "career stats"?

I wouldn't know anything of what I have done I couldn't tell you how many ducks or 100 I have off my head or anything do stats really mean so much to people.

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You must remember your 100s dave, if you dont youve scored too many!

FattusCattus · « **Reply #211 on:** September 22, 2020, 07:50:37 AM »

I'll bet he's got a few!

Won't remember them all due to the amount of painkillers he was popping

RF · « **Reply #212 on:** September 22, 2020, 09:14:36 AM »

Quote from: procricket on September 21, 2020, 07:27:55 PM

I always called club cricket the 30's

Average with the bat over 30 and your doing well

With the ball average under 30 and you done OK

Anything under 20 with lots of wickets and overs bowled is usually done by the professional only but thats in a full season we're I expect 50 - 70 wickets in a normal season depending on the rules

I'm a keeper or was what do I know

I�d agree over 30 with the bat is a good season but I think 30 with the ball is too high. That�s like bowling a side out for 300, which in my leagues would mean you lose most games. I reckon 15-20 with the ball is good.
Years ago when the pitches were slow and low anything above 25 with the bat was good and 10-15 with the ball

Good to see back anyway buddy

RF · « **Reply #213 on:** September 22, 2020, 09:24:05 AM »

I really enjoyed my season. I managed to get 20 games in so much better than I hoped for in March / April.
My club is in a really good place at the moment. We managed to develop good links with new clubs from outside our league so hopefully we can play more friendly cricket on Sundays next year.
Personally 349 runs at 25 and 19 wickets at 18.
I also started playing mid week cricket for the XL club (I�m old) which has given me a new enthusiasm. Played on some really nice grounds with and against some good people. It�s something I�ll do more of next year, I recommend it.

SLA · « **Reply #214 on:** September 22, 2020, 09:34:58 AM »

Quote from: RF on September 22, 2020, 09:14:36 AM

I�d agree over 30 with the bat is a good season but I think 30 with the ball is too high. That�s like bowling a side out for 300, which in my leagues would mean you lose most games. I reckon 15-20 with the ball is good.
Years ago when the pitches were slow and low anything above 25 with the bat was good and 10-15 with the ball

Good to see back anyway buddy

Generally I agree.

Obviously different leagues vary, due to different formats or pitches, but on an average year if you take the total runs scored by total wickets in most leagues I think you'd have a ratio of between 20 and 25. So a front-line bowler would want an average of under 20, and a front line batsman an average of over 30.

Hence in that kind of league, a good (but not unusual) bowling average might be 15, and a good (but not unusual) batting average might be 40. If you can do both at once, good for you.

To moan that someone with those kind of good-but-not-unusual stats is "playing below their standard" just comes across as sour grapes tbh.

RF · « **Reply #215 on:** September 22, 2020, 09:41:15 AM »

Quote from: SLA on September 22, 2020, 09:34:58 AM

Generally I agree.

Obviously different leagues vary, due to different formats or pitches, but on an average year if you take the total runs scored by total wickets in most leagues I think you'd have a ratio of between 20 and 25. So a front-line bowler would want an average of under 20, and a front line batsman an average of over 30.

Hence in that kind of league, a good (but not unusual) bowling average might be 15, and a good (but not unusual) batting average might be 40. If you can do both at once, good for you.

To moan that someone with those kind of good-but-not-unusual stats is "playing below their standard" just comes across as sour grapes tbh.

I wouldn�t worry too much about other people�s opinion and I wouldn�t worry too much about stats either.
Averages can be misleading, generally you will know if you have bowled or batted well that weekend.
I also read recently that you should compete with yourself and not anyone else. I thought that was great advice, just be the best you can be.
And as long as you are enjoying your cricket what anyone else says or does doesn�t matter

KettonJake · « **Reply #216 on:** September 22, 2020, 09:45:38 AM »

Stats are secondary for me. How many games did we win because of my contribution? That's a bigger factor for me.
If all of my team mates have that outlook and desire rather than trying to guard an average, we'll generally win plenty more than we lose. Thankfully most do.

I didn't celebrate a 50 2 weeks ago as we needed another 30 or so to win and I was shepherding a pretty weak tail. Delayed my celebration until we won, I was 81* batting with a youngster who hit a 4 to score the winning runs with 7 balls left.

SLA · « **Reply #217 on:** September 22, 2020, 09:55:35 AM »

Quote from: RF on September 22, 2020, 09:41:15 AM

I wouldn�t worry too much about other people�s opinion and I wouldn�t worry too much about stats either.
Averages can be misleading, generally you will know if you have bowled or batted well that weekend.
I also read recently that you should compete with yourself and not anyone else. I thought that was great advice, just be the best you can be.
And as long as you are enjoying your cricket what anyone else says or does doesn�t matter

Agree 100%. I'm not really interested in stats - I don't keep a running count or anything - my main focus is on bringing through the youngsters and I'm more interested in making sure everyone (on both teams) has had an enjoyable game.

However it is nice to score some runs and I just posted them to try to bring a bit of positivity to what was a downbeat thread. However, it didn't work! People seem much more interested in bringing others down than in celebrating success.

jamielsn15 · « **Reply #218 on:** September 22, 2020, 10:58:07 AM »

I too agree that personal stats in a team game aren't the priority. Seeing a 15 yr old hit two 50s and a 40 odd across 7 games who I open with gives me immense satisfaction. Other players have also stepped up significantly.

I've scored 40 runs across five innings while captaining most of the 7 games. Although the personal stats aren't everything, I do feel pressure for failing to contribute at the top of the order. But we've won more as a team than not and, as mentioned, others have contributed with bat and ball.

My overall feeling is that I've brought in a new player who's been well received and contributed and its great we have a strong team. Personally i want to work hard iver winter to get back to a standard that I set for myself that I'm happy with. If i do that, the performances oersonally and as a team will improve.

Jimbo · « **Reply #219 on:** September 22, 2020, 11:31:02 AM »

Quote from: SLA on September 22, 2020, 09:34:58 AM

Generally I agree.

Obviously different leagues vary, due to different formats or pitches, but on an average year if you take the total runs scored by total wickets in most leagues I think you'd have a ratio of between 20 and 25. So a front-line bowler would want an average of under 20, and a front line batsman an average of over 30.

Hence in that kind of league, a good (but not unusual) bowling average might be 15, and a good (but not unusual) batting average might be 40. If you can do both at once, good for you.

To moan that someone with those kind of good-but-not-unusual stats is "playing below their standard" just comes across as sour grapes tbh.

In fairness, you said you'd had a mediocre season but achieved better stats than those you've just described as good with both bat AND ball. I think that's what people are getting at.

As a lower XI skipper, I've got plenty time for older blokes who play down a level to bring through the younger lads in a supportive and competitive team, but if you're churning out those kind of numbers in a mediocre season then I can see why people are wondering why you aren't playing at a higher level.

SLA · « **Reply #220 on:** September 22, 2020, 11:34:53 AM »

Quote from: jamielsn15 on September 22, 2020, 10:58:07 AM

I too agree that personal stats in a team game aren't the priority. Seeing a 15 yr old hit two 50s and a 40 odd across 7 games who I open with gives me immense satisfaction. Other players have also stepped up significantly.

I've scored 40 runs across five innings while captaining most of the 7 games. Although the personal stats aren't everything, I do feel pressure for failing to contribute at the top of the order. But we've won more as a team than not and, as mentioned, others have contributed with bat and ball.

My overall feeling is that I've brought in a new player who's been well received and contributed and its great we have a strong team. Personally i want to work hard iver winter to get back to a standard that I set for myself that I'm happy with. If i do that, the performances oersonally and as a team will improve.

Yes - the most pressure on my batting I put on myself because I want to score quickly enough to buy some of the youngsters time to have a bat without the pressure to score fast and/or get enough runs on the board that I can give them a decent spell.

SLA · « **Reply #221 on:** September 22, 2020, 11:38:26 AM »

Quote from: Jimbo on September 22, 2020, 11:31:02 AM

In fairness, you said you'd had a mediocre season but achieved better stats than those you've just described as good with both bat AND ball. I think that's what people are getting at.

As a lower XI skipper, I've got plenty time for older blokes who play down a level to bring through the younger lads in a supportive and competitive team, but if you're churning out those kind of numbers in a mediocre season then I can see why people are wondering why you aren't playing at a higher level.

Simple misunderstanding here - I didn't say I'd had a mediocre season, I said my bowling had been mediocre whilst I had been in good form with the bat, both of which are true. Sometimes stats don't tell the whole story.

Jimbo · « **Reply #222 on:** September 22, 2020, 11:40:03 AM »

Quote from: SLA on September 22, 2020, 11:38:26 AM

Simple misunderstanding here - I didn't say I'd had a mediocre season, I said my bowling had been mediocre whilst I had been in good form with the bat, both of which are true. Sometimes stats don't tell the whole story.

Fair enough, very true that you can bowl well and get no reward and then bowl absolute dross and take heaps of wickets.

beaver5 · « **Reply #223 on:** September 22, 2020, 12:10:01 PM »

Lad in my team was the leading wicket taker in our league with 26 wickets at just over 17. He also came second overall in all the leagues combined in the Worcester league. If he's mediocre after that, then we all might as well pack in playing.

SLA · « **Reply #224 on:** September 22, 2020, 12:48:59 PM »

Quote from: beaver5 on September 22, 2020, 12:10:01 PM

Lad in my team was the leading wicket taker in our league with 26 wickets at just over 17. He also came second overall in all the leagues combined in the Worcester league. If he's mediocre after that, then we all might as well pack in playing.

This Worcester league, where everyone in the top 34 wicket takers has an average under 20? https://worcestershirecl.play-cricket.com/Statistics?utf8=%E2%9C%93&tab=Bowling&sub_tab=Standard&per_page=10&rule_type_id=179&season=77&order_by=total_wickets&season=77&rule_type_id=179&division_id=all&cup_id=all&tournament_id=all&age_group_id=all&gender_id=all&game_type=all&atleast=3&order_by=total_wickets

Top 10 wicket takers:

RANK   PLAYER   OVERS   MAIDENS   RUNS   WICKETS    BEST BOWLING   5 WICKET HAUL   ECONOMY RATE   STRIKE RATE   AVERAGE
1
PER   Paddy Thompson
81   4   409   29   4/24   0   5.05   16.76   14.10
2
BRO   Ben Whittenbury
52.5   5   229   26   7/35   2   4.33   12.19   8.81
3
   George Clifton
75.1   11   309   26   5/21   1   4.11   17.35   11.88
4
EVE   Farrukh Zaib
83.1   17   251   26   7/21   2   3.02   19.19   9.65
5
CLA   Umar Ijaz
71.4   17   245   25   6/24   2   3.42   17.20   9.80
6
WES   John Owens
65.4   6   271   24   7/17   1   4.13   16.42   11.29
7
OLD   Ian Robinson
71.4   14   251   24   5/27   1   3.50   17.92   10.46
8
CLE   Sam Evans
62.3   8   195   23   6/13   1   3.12   16.30   8.48
9
   James Bayliss
79   12   293   23   4/2   0   3.71   20.61   12.74
10
   Syed Bukhari
82   6   418   23   5/26   1   5.10   21.39   18.17

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