Topic: England�s international summer (Read 123895 times)

WalkingWicket37 · « **Reply #255 on:** July 12, 2020, 07:00:02 PM »

Quote from: Jeff Navarro on July 12, 2020, 06:52:53 PM

Bess had the wrong field because he kept bowling to full. How many times did he get nailed through the covers? I understand Bess is a project player but if he's totally ineffective on a wearing pitch what's the point of playing him?

Put a sweeper out at cover then... Hardly rocket science.

I'd rather see a spinner bowling attacking lines and go "too full" than dropping it too short and getting nailed.
Bowling full keeps bowled, caught behind and LBW in the game.you could even get a catch given to the edge of the 30 yard circle from a loose shot.

Bowling too short takes all of this out the game except the loose shot. It's really not complicated...

Jeff Navarro · « **Reply #256 on:** July 12, 2020, 07:02:28 PM »

Quote from: WalkingWicket37 on July 12, 2020, 06:54:55 PM

Bess was robbed of a plumb LBW by "umpires call" and had a chance dropped because Stokes was too proactive in moving to anticipate a shot.

He's 22 years old with bags of talent, there's no way he should be dropped after this game because he didn't take 11 wickets in the second innings.

I'm honestly not sure who's worse, Ed Smith it the CBF selection panel...

So he wasn�t really robbed then he? There was doubt in the umpires mind as to where the ball struck the batsman...

WalkingWicket37 · « **Reply #257 on:** July 12, 2020, 07:06:22 PM »

Quote from: Jeff Navarro on July 12, 2020, 07:02:28 PM

So he wasn�t really robbed then he? There was doubt in the umpires mind as to where the ball struck the batsman...

You clearly didn't watch the Test, did you?
The LBW in question pitched outside off, hit in line and was smashing into middle.
Somehow this was umpires call on height (despite virtually the whole ball hitting the stumps according to Hawkeye..

Jeff Navarro · « **Reply #258 on:** July 12, 2020, 07:08:18 PM »

Quote from: WalkingWicket37 on July 12, 2020, 07:06:22 PM

You clearly didn't watch the Test, did you?
The LBW in question pitched outside off, hit in line and was smashing into middle.
Somehow this was umpires call on height (despite virtually the whole ball hitting the stumps according to Hawkeye..

Umpire gave it not out, DRS justifies his original decision. Case closed.

WalkingWicket37 · « **Reply #259 on:** July 12, 2020, 07:13:57 PM »

Can anyone explain how not out was the "correct decision" here?
Genuinely baffled as it wasn't even just clipping. What percentage of the ball has to be hitting the stumps?

Jeff Navarro · « **Reply #260 on:** July 12, 2020, 07:16:44 PM »

51% of the ball has hit the stumps for it to be reversed, so according to Hawkeye it wasn�t.

alexhilly1492 · « **Reply #261 on:** July 12, 2020, 07:20:14 PM »

Quote from: Jeff Navarro on July 12, 2020, 07:16:44 PM

51% of the ball has hit the stumps for it to be reversed, so according to Hawkeye it wasn�t.

50% has to be hitting, half the ball was easily hitting, that picture probably isn't big enough to show it, chase was dead there and got away with it

Jeff Navarro · « **Reply #262 on:** July 12, 2020, 07:23:04 PM »

Quote from: alexhilly1492 on July 12, 2020, 07:20:14 PM

50% has to be hitting, half the ball was easily hitting, that picture probably isn't big enough to show it, chase was dead there and got away with it

If it�s 50/50 then it�s stays with whatever the on field umpire determined. Has to be over 50%

InternalTraining · « **Reply #263 on:** July 12, 2020, 07:40:54 PM »

In bowling, West Indies looked so much better than England. England batting looked better than W-Indies. England missed a few 2nd chances in the field which made the difference otherwise not a bad performance from England.

It was a great Test match. Well played West Indies!

csnew · « **Reply #264 on:** July 12, 2020, 08:31:38 PM »

Quote from: WalkingWicket37 on July 12, 2020, 07:13:57 PM

Can anyone explain how not out was the "correct decision" here?
Genuinely baffled as it wasn't even just clipping. What percentage of the ball has to be hitting the stumps?

If you look at the overall test match, the home umpires gave decisions to England more than windies. Can�t moan about one decision given about 2-3 went against windies

ProCricketer1982 · « **Reply #265 on:** July 12, 2020, 09:18:27 PM »

Really enjoyable test match with all three results available.

Was Bess robbed... not really as an umpires call shows that it�s not nailed on so �if any doubt, not out� is the right call. WI deserve their win and England still have work to do on their red ball side.

No Bairstow won�t help
No Moeen won�t help either
We still need a top order bat who will eat balls for fun but actually average 40+

Foakes has to come in and be given as many tests as Buttler and Bairstow (40+ and 70+ is it !!!).

Archer needs to realise he�s an 11 batter

Good game to watch though, better than a lot of the tests over the last few years

Jlscarroll17 · « **Reply #266 on:** July 12, 2020, 10:34:49 PM »

I�m not sold on Pope, I�d like to see Lawrence given a chance, another that�s churned out runs consistently at county and lions level, there�s also Hain but he�s in the ODI squad so hopefully we�ll get to see him in England colours this summer

rickjames · « **Reply #267 on:** July 13, 2020, 01:04:47 PM »

I may be pointing to stats a little too much but I'm not sure how you can't be sold on a lad with a FC average of 60 and just 8 tests under his belt already has an average of 41 at the age of 22. But each to their own, I guess.

jamesisapayne · « **Reply #268 on:** July 13, 2020, 01:36:25 PM »

Quote from: rickjames on July 13, 2020, 01:04:47 PM

I may be pointing to stats a little too much but I'm not sure how you can't be sold on a lad with a FC average of 60 and just 8 tests under his belt already has an average of 41 at the age of 22. But each to their own, I guess.

Was thinking exactly the same thing!

alexhilly1492 · « **Reply #269 on:** July 13, 2020, 02:07:45 PM »

Quote from: rickjames on July 13, 2020, 01:04:47 PM

I may be pointing to stats a little too much but I'm not sure how you can't be sold on a lad with a FC average of 60 and just 8 tests under his belt already has an average of 41 at the age of 22. But each to their own, I guess.

I think in this case its justified, the lad is arguably the best young batsmen in the country at the moment.

Obviously he needs to kick on and score test runs but ive not seen anything to make me doubt that hes good enough

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