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alexhilly1492

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Re: England’s international summer
« Reply #1140 on: August 24, 2020, 05:59:39 PM »
Quote from: six and out on August 24, 2020, 05:57:56 PM
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/cricket/53745718

Harmer will never play for England as he won't be able to qualify

Ah ok, I thought he quali died this winter regardless as his kolpak was signed before Brexit
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Re: England’s international summer
« Reply #1141 on: August 24, 2020, 06:19:51 PM »
Quote from: billyb on August 24, 2020, 05:23:20 PM
Leach v Bess?
In the subcontinent it's surely just both of them? Been a very effective pair for Somerset.
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Re: England’s international summer
« Reply #1142 on: August 24, 2020, 06:44:55 PM »
I imagine we'll take Bess, Leach, Crane and Rashid for a tour on the subcontinent? Leach struggles with his health.
Rashid has to be better than Crane... Surely he must come in?
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Re: England’s international summer
« Reply #1143 on: August 24, 2020, 06:59:14 PM »
Butler is averaging 50 with the bat this summer and is currently batting at 6 where he has been successful for England in test cricket so would have to play in the next test whether as a keeper or not. 

The only way to get Foakes in would be to drop one of Sibley  or Burns which  isn't unrealistic.   Both have looked dreadful against spin this summer - Sibley in particular.  It is accepted that bowling  attacks  have to change according to the conditions.  It may be a tour when the same applies to the opening batsmen.

An attack of two spinners, two seamers, Stokes and Root looks reasonably balanced to me
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Re: England’s international summer
« Reply #1144 on: August 24, 2020, 07:16:38 PM »
Quote from: SD on August 24, 2020, 06:59:14 PM
Butler is averaging 50 with the bat this summer and is currently batting at 6 where he has been successful for England in test cricket so would have to play in the next test whether as a keeper or not. 

The only way to get Foakes in would be to drop one of Sibley  or Burns which  isn't unrealistic.   Both have looked dreadful against spin this summer - Sibley in particular.  It is accepted that bowling  attacks  have to change according to the conditions.  It may be a tour when the same applies to the opening batsmen.

An attack of two spinners, two seamers, Stokes and Root looks reasonably balanced to me

Burns did ok in Sri Lanka during his debut tour
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Re: England�s international summer
« Reply #1145 on: August 24, 2020, 07:37:05 PM »
I imagine you'd have something like:

Burns or Sibley
Crawley
Root
Pope
Stokes
Buttler
Foakes
Bess or Ali
Archer
Rashid or Wood/Broad etc
Leach
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Re: England�s international summer
« Reply #1146 on: August 24, 2020, 07:50:28 PM »
Not that I think he has any chance of playing, but Jennings should be in that party. That being said how he makes playing spin so easy yet struggles here is beyond me.

I would also like to see Virdi make the touring party, but I guess the fear will be that he will go for a few due to his rather attacking nature...
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Re: England’s international summer
« Reply #1147 on: August 24, 2020, 08:37:07 PM »
Quote from: alexhilly1492 on August 24, 2020, 07:16:38 PM
Burns did ok in Sri Lanka during his debut tour

He averaged 25 on on that tour against what, after the retirement of Herath was barely a FC standard attack.  Burns has looked better than Sibley against spin, but neither has convinced.   

If you picked the batting like the bowling is selected looking at the best men for the conditions then Crawley and Jennings would open up.   As it is I think Sibley, Burns and Foakes are competing for 2 places

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Re: England’s international summer
« Reply #1148 on: August 24, 2020, 08:52:47 PM »
Quote from: SD on August 24, 2020, 08:37:07 PM
He averaged 25 on on that tour against what, after the retirement of Herath was barely a FC standard attack.  Burns has looked better than Sibley against spin, but neither has convinced.   

If you picked the batting like the bowling is selected looking at the best men for the conditions then Crawley and Jennings would open up.   As it is I think Sibley, Burns and Foakes are competing for 2 places

That the same Keaton Jennings who made Adam Lyth look like Murali today? 🤔
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Re: England’s international summer
« Reply #1149 on: August 24, 2020, 08:59:37 PM »
Quote from: Manormanic on August 24, 2020, 08:52:47 PM
That the same Keaton Jennings who made Adam Lyth look like Murali today? 🤔

The one with an average of 41 in India and 46 in Sri Lanka yes
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Re: England�s international summer
« Reply #1150 on: August 24, 2020, 09:06:44 PM »
Don’t see why any more than two spinners would be needed in India especially as we don’t really have anyone particularly good enough. Best bet would be Wood + Archer and two finger spinners. Wrist spin gets slaughtered in India.
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Re: England’s international summer
« Reply #1151 on: August 25, 2020, 10:24:27 AM »
Quote from: Manormanic on August 24, 2020, 08:52:47 PM
That the same Keaton Jennings who made Adam Lyth look like Murali today? 🤔

The more I watch Jennings grope around like a blind man against average spin bowling, the more I think his brief successful spell was just a bizarre fluke.

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Re: England�s international summer
« Reply #1152 on: August 25, 2020, 03:38:48 PM »
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Re: England’s international summer
« Reply #1153 on: August 25, 2020, 04:38:33 PM »
Sibley bowling utter filth at the moment!
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Re: England�s international summer
« Reply #1154 on: August 27, 2020, 05:10:05 PM »
Jason Roy misses T20s against Pakistan with side injury.
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