Topic: ENG vs IND series (Read 170078 times)

csnew · « **Reply #1560 on:** March 05, 2021, 09:45:41 PM »

This side would�ve been perfect in the 3rd test match. And the 3rd test match side would�ve been perfect in this game.
The selectors have got it wrong badly. I know the batsman haven�t performed but shocking selection decisions

shadowlight · « **Reply #1561 on:** March 05, 2021, 10:11:25 PM »

Quote from: Kulli on March 05, 2021, 07:11:55 PM

That innings certainly felt like what Buttler should be cable of but never quite seems to have delivered. Maybe he just lacks Pants reading of the game, or finds it hard to switch gears/modes in that way.

Or it could be that the Indian management has told Pant to go out and play his natural game and not worry.

shadowlight · « **Reply #1562 on:** March 05, 2021, 10:20:00 PM »

Does Ranji Trophy (India) allow international players as professional? Maybe that is what the England spinners should do and join minor teams to get better. Major teams like Mumbai, Tamil Nadu, Karnataka, etc might not go for it but the minor ones might especially if ECB says we will pay the players salary but you have to play them if they are fit.

I know Foakes spent couple of months in Sri Lanka when he was not part of England squad. Not sure if he was hired by the local club or he paid his way to play for the local club.

csnew · « **Reply #1563 on:** March 05, 2021, 10:34:15 PM »

Quote from: shadowlight on March 05, 2021, 10:11:25 PM

Or it could be that the Indian management has told Pant to go out and play his natural game and not worry.

He batted sensibly for his first 50 runs and played the situation. He took his chance once the bowlers were tired. It was good game awareness from a cricketer who�s thrown it away in the past

SurreySam · « **Reply #1564 on:** March 05, 2021, 10:44:34 PM »

Guy's, you need to step back.

What has failed us more - a newly capped test spinners odd full toss, or the continued collapse of a batting unit who don't lack 'game' time?

It's really that simple.

adb club cricketer · « **Reply #1565 on:** March 05, 2021, 10:59:05 PM »

Agree, while everyone agrees Bess has to improve, think folks are bit too harsh on him considering his age and experience. If experienced batsmen don't deliver, can't really blame the younger guys.

Jeff Navarro · « **Reply #1566 on:** March 05, 2021, 10:59:34 PM »

Quote from: shadowlight on March 05, 2021, 10:20:00 PM

Does Ranji Trophy (India) allow international players as professional? Maybe that is what the England spinners should do and join minor teams to get better. Major teams like Mumbai, Tamil Nadu, Karnataka, etc might not go for it but the minor ones might especially if ECB says we will pay the players salary but you have to play them if they are fit.

I know Foakes spent couple of months in Sri Lanka when he was not part of England squad. Not sure if he was hired by the local club or he paid his way to play for the local club.

Ranji trophy doesn�t allow overseas players - think Panesar, Bopara, Samit and Hameed tried in the past to use their Indian heritage but they were told no.
IIRC Kohli even asked them to reconsider in Hameed�s case.

Kulli · « **Reply #1567 on:** March 06, 2021, 12:46:23 AM »

Quote from: shadowlight on March 05, 2021, 10:11:25 PM

Or it could be that the Indian management has told Pant to go out and play his natural game and not worry.

Maybe, I doubt Buttler has been told too much different from that, he just seems to struggle to find how to play except in one day-esq run chases.

Kulli · « **Reply #1568 on:** March 06, 2021, 12:49:10 AM »

Quote from: SurreySam on March 05, 2021, 10:44:34 PM

Guy's, you need to step back.

What has failed us more - a newly capped test spinners odd full toss, or the continued collapse of a batting unit who don't lack 'game' time?

It's really that simple.

It�s hard to blame Bess, rather than the system that�s put him there.

Given the pitches we�ve played on and the attack they have (and how their batters have failed against our -much weaker- spinners) it�s hard to expect too much more form them tbh. Especially given how many of them haven�t played in India before.

SD · « **Reply #1569 on:** March 06, 2021, 01:23:00 AM »

Quote from: shadowlight on March 05, 2021, 10:11:25 PM

Or it could be that the Indian management has told Pant to go out and play his natural game and not worry.

The big difference between the white ball and test sides for me is that the white ball team seem to have the freedom to play knowing that they will be backed if it goes wrong. I don't get that impression with the test side. Look at the dismissal this series and few have fallen to big shots. More often that not, batsmen have been tied down going nowhere, then get the pressure of men round the bat. Whereas Rohit and Pant have taken the game to the English bowlers, there hasn't been the same pressure applied to the Indian bowlers.

Silverwood has come in and put a marker down that the side is going to bat for time. That is a bigger error in my view.

rickjames · « **Reply #1570 on:** March 06, 2021, 04:29:48 AM »

Game ends today I think

brokenbat · « **Reply #1571 on:** March 06, 2021, 04:35:39 AM »

Quote from: SD on March 06, 2021, 01:23:00 AM

The big difference between the white ball and test sides for me is that the white ball team seem to have the freedom to play knowing that they will be backed if it goes wrong. I don't get that impression with the test side. Look at the dismissal this series and few have fallen to big shots. More often that not, batsmen have been tied down going nowhere, then get the pressure of men round the bat. Whereas Rohit and Pant have taken the game to the English bowlers, there hasn't been the same pressure applied to the Indian bowlers.

Silverwood has come in and put a marker down that the side is going to bat for time. That is a bigger error in my view.

The bigger error is trying to issue a team wide directive. Instead of that, each batsman�s natural style should be encouraged and groomed. Look at India - they have Pujara, as well as Pant. The great Aussies of the past had Katich as well as Gilchrist. Let each player do his own thing, as that is a higher percentage strategy than trying to force a player to bat a certain way.

Jimbo · « **Reply #1572 on:** March 06, 2021, 05:40:40 AM »

That's a tough on for Sundar, deserved a ton.

rickjames · « **Reply #1573 on:** March 06, 2021, 05:41:55 AM »

Skittled for 180 odd I reckon

billyb · « **Reply #1574 on:** March 06, 2021, 06:19:46 AM »

Crawley looks in good touch, he just needs to get settled.

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