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Re: ENG vs IND series
« Reply #600 on: February 14, 2021, 10:26:04 AM »

The pitch hasn't changed at all, the toss has had absolutely no influence on this game at all. India have just bowled better and batted better.
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Re: ENG vs IND series
« Reply #601 on: February 14, 2021, 10:27:36 AM »

Jesus! Has he slept with your mrs or something? Selfish is a bit over the top

Broad has batted like that for years now, it cant be a shock to you. Sometimes it comes off sometimes it doesn't.

How Englands number 11 bats should be the least of anyones worries! Look at the guys above him! Or shall we discuss how Sibley offers England nothing with the ball?

So he wasn’t selfish/stupid with the decision he made based on the situation England are in ? Was there an attempt to try and bat for a bit ?

I’d be very interested to know when the last time him batting like that came off, don’t think your comparison between broad and sibley really works as broad is more than capable with the bat where as sibley is only a batter
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Re: ENG vs IND series
« Reply #602 on: February 14, 2021, 10:28:50 AM »

Well there's always a first for everything. Foakes showed class, temperament and confidence to do well in these conditions. He looked class apart from the rest.
If fitness is an issue for these modern day players then root can bat at 3 and foakes at 6.

"There's a first for everything" is how we got Jason Roy opening in a test match in England against Cummins, Starc et al 😂

You want to move Root about on the back of him having scored nearly 700 runs in 3 tests batting at 4?

I don't think fitness is just an issue for 'modern players', keeping in India is physically and mentally taxing, can't expect anyone to come out potentially second ball of the innings after keeping all day and perform to their best. Look at Sangakkara, one of the all time greats, and his batting record when was keeping as opposed to when he wasn't.

If England want to give Lawrence time to go away and work on his game, Bairstow is a pretty obvious candidate. Part of me would like to see Bracey given a go but not sure about putting another leftie in the firing line against Ashwin.
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Re: ENG vs IND series
« Reply #603 on: February 14, 2021, 10:29:12 AM »

Well there's always a first for everything. Foakes showed class, temperament and confidence to do well in these conditions. He looked class apart from the rest.
If fitness is an issue for these modern day players then root can bat at 3 and foakes at 6.

I think it was Sangakarra who explained why a WK can’t really bat at 3 due to needing time to refresh the mind as well as the body.
Why would anyone consider moving our best batter, who prefers to bat at 4?
We tried it in the Ashes, it didn’t work. Kohli never moves up to 3, Smith never moves up to 3....
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Re: ENG vs IND series
« Reply #604 on: February 14, 2021, 10:37:41 AM »

The pitch hasn't changed at all, the toss has had absolutely no influence on this game at all. India have just bowled better and batted better.

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Re: ENG vs IND series
« Reply #605 on: February 14, 2021, 10:38:00 AM »

I think bairstow will probably come in for Lawrence, straight swap at 3 and leave foakes further down the order, don’t really see the need for another bowler, root needs to bowl himself more especially in these conditions he’s a better option than Bess. Two front line seamers and spin bowlers with the addition of root and stokes should be enough
Root is a part timer bess is a specialist. Bess was the one who got rid of india's main batters in first innings in last test and didn't let india post a big score in still good batting third day pitch.
The reason root looked good  in the first innings is because this is a rank turner from day 1. whereas the last one , things really didn't happen much until the 4th day.
Any spinner would feel bad missing out to bowl on a pitch like this.
the only reason i say go with extra bowler is cuz stokes just doesn't bowl enough these days, maybe if there's a physical issue with him or what don't know god knows.
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Re: ENG vs IND series
« Reply #606 on: February 14, 2021, 10:40:09 AM »

how does that count as a shot played??????????????????????
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Re: ENG vs IND series
« Reply #607 on: February 14, 2021, 10:41:22 AM »

how does that count as a shot played??????????????????????

Absolute (No Swearing Please), that's a shocking decision. Bat is about a foot behind his leg, quite clearly not playing a shot and padding it away.
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Re: ENG vs IND series
« Reply #608 on: February 14, 2021, 10:43:13 AM »

So he wasn’t selfish/stupid with the decision he made based on the situation England are in ? Was there an attempt to try and bat for a bit ?

I’d be very interested to know when the last time him batting like that came off, don’t think your comparison between broad and sibley really works as broad is more than capable with the bat where as sibley is only a batter

Maybe slightly foolish but I think its just a reality that hes not good enough to survive playing steady cricket. Selfish and Stupid are far wide of the mark im afraid. Broads a very intelligent cricketer

Hes contributed quick runs plenty of times, the most memorable for me was at Melbourne in partnership with Cook.

My comparison with Sibley was of course an extreme example to make a mockery of your criticism. Sibley is picked to bat. Broad is picked to bowl. If you wish to criticise anyones batting start with the top 6 in this innings! Any runs that come from numbers 10 and 11 are very much bonus runs.
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Re: ENG vs IND series
« Reply #609 on: February 14, 2021, 10:44:34 AM »

Absolute joke of a decision by the umpire/3rd umpire. How the hell can he say Rohit is playing a shot. Unbelieve, biast decision. Totally wrong!
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Re: ENG vs IND series
« Reply #610 on: February 14, 2021, 10:45:44 AM »

Im much more concerned about the standard of umpiring than standard of pitch in this game!
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Re: ENG vs IND series
« Reply #611 on: February 14, 2021, 10:50:05 AM »

Sibley is picked to bat. Broad is picked to bowl. If you wish to criticise anyones batting start with the top 6 in this innings! Any runs that come from numbers 10 and 11 are very much bonus runs.

Not sure I agree with this. Yes, you can't criticise Broad for not scoring runs but every player in the 11 should be making an effort to try and bat to the game situation.

Whether they do it successfully or not shouldn't be a reason to criticise a number 11, fair enough, but the application and attitude was really poor from Broad. If he'd got out trying to hold up an end with Foakes then no criticism warranted.
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Re: ENG vs IND series
« Reply #612 on: February 14, 2021, 10:50:23 AM »

hitting middle stump!!!
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Re: ENG vs IND series
« Reply #613 on: February 14, 2021, 10:51:49 AM »

"There's a first for everything" is how we got Jason Roy opening in a test match in England against Cummins, Starc et al 😂

You want to move Root about on the back of him having scored nearly 700 runs in 3 tests batting at 4?

I don't think fitness is just an issue for 'modern players', keeping in India is physically and mentally taxing, can't expect anyone to come out potentially second ball of the innings after keeping all day and perform to their best. Look at Sangakkara, one of the all time greats, and his batting record when was keeping as opposed to when he wasn't.

If England want to give Lawrence time to go away and work on his game, Bairstow is a pretty obvious candidate. Part of me would like to see Bracey given a go but not sure about putting another leftie in the firing line against Ashwin.
So you are saying superstition in batting position is key to success. Well, if you can bat, you should be able to bat at any position depending on the requirement of the team.
Well if you try something new and it fails doesn't mean you stop trying , do you?
Jason roy is a great white ball opener and england gave him a chance to open in tests  thinking he will succeed but he didn't, so be it. trial/errors are part and parcel of anything.
Virendra sehwag always batted in the middle order for his domestic side, but india gave him a chance to open in tests and he flourished.
there are many other players who bat different positions at international level from their domestic side.
root batting at no 3 doesn't make him any lesser batsman than at no 4.
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Re: ENG vs IND series
« Reply #614 on: February 14, 2021, 10:54:21 AM »

Im much more concerned about the standard of umpiring than standard of pitch in this game!

Yup. Pitch is absolutely fine, same for both sides. Umpiring on the other hand has been shocking.
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