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Re: ENG vs IND series
« Reply #870 on: February 17, 2021, 10:49:07 AM »
Quote from: mo_town on February 17, 2021, 10:26:35 AM
I have a feeling Eng will pick Virdi as a far left choice for the next test. About time he got a chance too. If he cannot get picked in a Test in India/Sri Lanka, he should seriously be considering his career choices!

It's not worth being a professional cricketer unless you play for England?

Having seen a fair bit of Amar Vitdi, I'm of the the opinion that he's nowhere near good enough to be playing for England. Mind you, I can remember being surprised when Dom Bess started being mentioned.
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Re: ENG vs IND series
« Reply #871 on: February 17, 2021, 10:50:55 AM »
Quote from: csnew on February 17, 2021, 06:03:22 AM
I’d imagine if moeen chooses to play the IPL the English media will go at him

I should think so too!
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Re: ENG vs IND series
« Reply #872 on: February 17, 2021, 11:28:09 AM »
Quote from: Bats_Entertainment on February 17, 2021, 10:50:55 AM
I should think so too!

Why!! He has gone home as per the management's rotation agreement before the tours started.

The IPL has been factored into the workload of all the players who already have contracts ie. Stokes, Buttler. So why should it be any different for Mo
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Re: ENG vs IND series
« Reply #873 on: February 17, 2021, 11:36:19 AM »
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Re: ENG vs IND series
« Reply #874 on: February 17, 2021, 11:47:37 AM »
It is very disappointing that Moeen seems to be carrying the can for i. a scheduled rotation to spend some time out of the bubble and ii. making himself available to play in the IPL when both are applicable to the rest of the squad.

The first has to be a sensible approach even if it is frustrating as supporters not to have have strongest group avaliable for the whole tour.  I think attitudes to mental health have progressed sufficiently to respect this.

The second is more a matter of opinion, but it has to be consistent.  If it is fine for Stokes to play in the IPL in the middle of a busy international year, then there should be no criticism of any other member of the squad for doing the same
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Re: ENG vs IND series
« Reply #875 on: February 17, 2021, 12:00:35 PM »
Quote from: ppccopener on February 17, 2021, 11:36:19 AM
Why would that be?

Because playing for England should be much more important than playing in the IPL.
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Re: ENG vs IND series
« Reply #876 on: February 17, 2021, 12:01:46 PM »
Quote from: six and out on February 17, 2021, 11:28:09 AM
Why!! He has gone home as per the management's rotation agreement before the tours started.

The IPL has been factored into the workload of all the players who already have contracts ie. Stokes, Buttler. So why should it be any different for Mo

F*** the IPL.
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Re: ENG vs IND series
« Reply #877 on: February 17, 2021, 12:02:45 PM »
As far as I’m aware Test contract players get £700,000 + bonuses. Limited overs contract players get £170,000 + bonuses.

Therefore Moeen seems to know he’s unlikely to get many opportunities in Test cricket this summer and in the Ashes.

So if an IPL side is willing to pay him 6 figures why should he leave that on the table ?
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Re: ENG vs IND series
« Reply #878 on: February 17, 2021, 12:03:43 PM »
Quote from: Bats_Entertainment on February 17, 2021, 12:00:35 PM
Because playing for England should be much more important than playing in the IPL.

He's in his mid-30s, coming to the end of his international career and probably approaching the point where he's thinking about retirement. I think any reasonable person would be thinking about their and their family's financial future.
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Re: ENG vs IND series
« Reply #879 on: February 17, 2021, 12:04:54 PM »
Money, money, money...

And you wonder why we've got no good spinners?

Absolutely laughable.
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Re: ENG vs IND series
« Reply #880 on: February 17, 2021, 12:07:04 PM »
Quote from: Jimbo on February 17, 2021, 12:03:43 PM
He's in his mid-30s, coming to the end of his international career and probably approaching the point where he's thinking about retirement. I think any reasonable person would be thinking about their and their family's financial future.

'Any reasonable person' shouldn't be playing for England rhen.
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Re: ENG vs IND series
« Reply #881 on: February 17, 2021, 12:09:29 PM »
Quote from: Bats_Entertainment on February 17, 2021, 12:00:35 PM
Because playing for England should be much more important than playing in the IPL.

England cancelled Moeen’s test contract.

I think the attitude towards the IPL has changed and there is now far more accommodation for the players likely to play in it.

If you cast you mind back to one of the KP flash points, this was definitely one of them.

Post KP England relaxed the rules whether a player is test contracted or not
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Re: ENG vs IND series
« Reply #882 on: February 17, 2021, 12:13:14 PM »
Quote from: ppccopener on February 17, 2021, 12:09:29 PM


If you cast you mind back to one of the KP flash points, this was definitely one of them.



And look what a **** he was. Good riddance!
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Re: ENG vs IND series
« Reply #883 on: February 17, 2021, 12:29:52 PM »
I can see this whole Moeen thing escalating quite quickly.
Why can’t they just treat everyone as equal?
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Re: ENG vs IND series
« Reply #884 on: February 17, 2021, 12:44:17 PM »
Quote from: Bats_Entertainment on February 17, 2021, 12:01:46 PM
F*** the IPL.

Or.. maybe in a year when there's a T20 world cup in India...

The exposure to the conditions and world's best players in that format in the conditions is actually a good thing
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