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Re: ENG vs IND series
« Reply #915 on: February 17, 2021, 03:17:34 PM »

Any ideas why they were scheduled at all?

This is where we're heading.
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Re: ENG vs IND series
« Reply #916 on: February 17, 2021, 03:23:26 PM »

This is where we're heading.

The NZ Tests weren't in the original schedule.

There was already a pretty full summer vrs SL, Pak and India which were arranged last year. The NZ Tests were only announced in the last month or so and weren't in the original ticket ballot. Im just wondering why that is

Not sure if it has anything to do with NZ qualifying for the Test Championship final
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Re: ENG vs IND series
« Reply #917 on: February 17, 2021, 03:26:59 PM »

Not sure if it has anything to do with NZ qualifying for the Test Championship final

I would guess this is why, they'll be coming over to the UK for it anyway so makes sense for them to play some more fixtures whilst they're here?
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Re: ENG vs IND series
« Reply #918 on: February 17, 2021, 03:27:46 PM »

Will be something to do with TV money? Shouldn't have been arranged if  England aren't able to put a full-strength team out.
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Re: ENG vs IND series
« Reply #919 on: February 17, 2021, 03:28:04 PM »

Although not too impressed having bought 12 tickets to Edgbaston that half the players won't even be involved... not that we'll care past 11.30am and 4 pints lol
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Re: ENG vs IND series
« Reply #920 on: February 17, 2021, 03:28:21 PM »

This is where we're heading.

Not sure that this is fair during a 17-test calendar year?
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Re: ENG vs IND series
« Reply #921 on: February 17, 2021, 03:29:27 PM »

I would guess this is why, they'll be coming over to the UK for it anyway so makes sense for them to play some more fixtures whilst they're here?

That seems to make sense.

Although less so if all the best players from both sides are in India.
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Re: ENG vs IND series
« Reply #922 on: February 17, 2021, 03:31:06 PM »

Although not too impressed having bought 12 tickets to Edgbaston that half the players won't even be involved... not that we'll care past 11.30am and 4 pints lol

You chose the right one! I looked at the Lords match but thought better of it.

Surely Williamson as skipper wont prioritise IPL?
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Re: ENG vs IND series
« Reply #923 on: February 17, 2021, 03:31:34 PM »

Not sure that this is fair during a 17-test calendar year?

Fair point.
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Re: ENG vs IND series
« Reply #924 on: February 17, 2021, 03:32:31 PM »

Good to see Silverwood has come out and apologised to Mo. Clear mistake to imply it was all Moeen's choice.
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Re: ENG vs IND series
« Reply #925 on: February 17, 2021, 03:40:15 PM »

Okay, it's different now. This has been handled badly. But I still strongly disagree with the wider principle of players resting during England time rather than in franchise time.
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Re: ENG vs IND series
« Reply #926 on: February 17, 2021, 03:53:04 PM »

Maybe not ideal but it's a better situation than the Windies have ended up with where loads of their top players have decided to go off and play franchise cricket all the time because concessions weren't made to allow them to earn life changing sums of money for a short period of work.
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Re: ENG vs IND series
« Reply #927 on: February 17, 2021, 04:16:31 PM »

I have started to think since the beginning of the Silverwood era when it became clear that England would revert to a more traditional approach to Test cricket that the number of multi-format players should be minimised where possible to avoid these issues. I think Stokes is the only player who should unquestionably be in the Test and limited overs teams and Archer possibly.

This would avoid a situation like this where Moeen who is a peripheral Test player is being criticised for (potentially) prioritising 14+ games in the format in which  he is the most valuable to England moving forward as he is considered a marginally better option currently than his counterpart in the Test squad.

I suppose the counter argument is potential resentment amongst those who could potentially  get an IPL contract resenting being pigeon-holed as Test players.
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Re: ENG vs IND series
« Reply #928 on: February 17, 2021, 04:25:36 PM »

I have started to think since the beginning of the Silverwood era when it became clear that England would revert to a more traditional approach to Test cricket that the number of multi-format players should be minimised where possible to avoid these issues. I think Stokes is the only player who should unquestionably be in the Test and limited overs teams and Archer possibly.

This would avoid a situation like this where Moeen who is a peripheral Test player is being criticised for (potentially) prioritising 14+ games in the format in which  he is the most valuable to England moving forward as he is considered a marginally better option currently than his counterpart in the Test squad.

I suppose the counter argument is potential resentment amongst those who could potentially  get an IPL contract resenting being pigeon-holed as Test players.

I think it's fine to play 2 formats (test and odi or T20 and odi) but noone should play all 3. It's too much and they're too different.
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Re: ENG vs IND series
« Reply #929 on: February 17, 2021, 05:16:39 PM »

I hate the idea that if you don't see money as the most important thing then you are somehow simple, naive or immature.
Who’s to say that some of the players don’t actually enjoy playing in the IPL as much as tests?
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