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Re: ENG vs IND series
« Reply #1590 on: March 06, 2021, 07:45:35 AM »

Poor batting - this wicket is your typical Indian wicket. It’s not a 40-4 track
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« Reply #1591 on: March 06, 2021, 07:54:44 AM »

I'm not gonna lie, I just want to see some spinners dispatched into the stands. A last hurrah.

Got your wish there 😂
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« Reply #1592 on: March 06, 2021, 07:58:08 AM »

Brain dead dismissal from Bairstow and Stokes with a man round the corner, got to say I feel For Sibley, gets a bit of stick at times for his negative style and now shows some intent and gets out in an unlucky fashion.

Overall the lack of a quality pair of spinners along with our national sides inability to build a foundation at the top of the innings has cost us on this tour.  Certainly some positives to take from some players on this tour l feel
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Re: ENG vs IND series
« Reply #1593 on: March 06, 2021, 08:07:48 AM »

Brain dead dismissal from Bairstow and Stokes with a man round the corner, got to say I feel For Sibley, gets a bit of stick at times for his negative style and now shows some intent and gets out in an unlucky fashion.

Overall the lack of a quality pair of spinners along with our national sides inability to build a foundation at the top of the innings has cost us on this tour.  Certainly some positives to take from some players on this tour l feel

Certainly some positives to take. Leach has looked a much improved bowler, Stone looked really good in his one run out, Anderson shows no sign of slowing down and Foakes' keeping has been excellent.
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Re: ENG vs IND series
« Reply #1594 on: March 06, 2021, 08:09:20 AM »

Pope was trying bit too much. Intentions were there but lack of patience
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Re: ENG vs IND series
« Reply #1595 on: March 06, 2021, 08:12:05 AM »

What an absolute capitulation this is.
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Re: ENG vs IND series
« Reply #1596 on: March 06, 2021, 08:24:14 AM »

All will be forgotten when England win the summer series with the swinging ball....seen it too often
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Re: ENG vs IND series
« Reply #1597 on: March 06, 2021, 08:29:19 AM »

I've not been sure about Pope for some time. A very talented young player, but I don't think he's ready at this level yet. He's been protected at Surrey, batting largely at 5/6. He needs to become their dominant batsman, who controls his teams innings. He doesn't seem to know his own game at the moment. I look at someone like Sam Hain as someone who is the main man in his team, and others play around him. These are the type of player who need to be looked at and given a chance.
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Re: ENG vs IND series
« Reply #1598 on: March 06, 2021, 08:30:12 AM »

Not seeing this as all doom and gloom by any means. Pant and Sandar played really well just when we were getting back into it.

Batting wise I'd leave Bairstow now to be a White ball player, but stick with the younger batsmen.

Sibley is the sort of mentality we need to dig in and try to bat all day.

Pope,Lawrence,Crawley, all need an extended run.

The only real question for me is during a home series if Foakes stays keeper(I don't think he will but should) is Buttler one of our best batsmen just on batting.

If Burns and Bairstow go out of he team there is a space for a batsman.
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Re: ENG vs IND series
« Reply #1599 on: March 06, 2021, 08:33:59 AM »

Pope is more than ready; came into this series with no cricket under his belt, and I'm sure over the summer he'll have a decent chunk of Championship cricket under his belt before the India series starts. Just come up against a world class bowler in Ashwin, and I think most youngsters would struggle...

Same applies to the likes of Crawley, Sibley, Lawrence etc; they all need extended runs in the side instead of being brushed aside for blokes who simply aren't up to the job like Bairstow...
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Re: ENG vs IND series
« Reply #1600 on: March 06, 2021, 08:39:11 AM »

Do we know feel that if and it’s a big if but Bairstow is now done with Test cricket that we leave Foakes to be the keeper and play Butler as a batsmen only? With an order or squad something like this

Burns/ or another
Sibley
Crawley
Root
Stokes
Butler
Pope/Lawrence
Foakes
Woakes/Archer/broad/Stone
Leach/Bess/Virdi
Anderson.
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Re: ENG vs IND series
« Reply #1601 on: March 06, 2021, 08:40:26 AM »

People have given Buttler plenty of stick on here but let’s face it, he is clearly one of the top batsmen in this test side. I would only put Root and Stokes above him.
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Re: ENG vs IND series
« Reply #1602 on: March 06, 2021, 08:44:47 AM »

People have given Buttler plenty of stick on here but let’s face it, he is clearly one of the top batsmen in this test side. I would only put Root and Stokes above him.

Batting wise last 1-2 years he's played pretty solid. He's also adapted from the one day game to bat differently in tests.

He is also a good player of spin.

Just one the shedules for the tests and one dayers, come the first 2020 England have a full team to pick from.
Not making excuses but Root has been a bit handicapped here by the priority given to the one day game.
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Re: ENG vs IND series
« Reply #1603 on: March 06, 2021, 08:51:04 AM »

After Root, Foakes looks clearly the next skillful player of spin. Gets right to the pitch of the ball , kills the spin right there and then . shuffles nicely to the back foot for slightly shorter ones. above all just looks so solid and confident out there. just sad he is batting no 8.
Apart from these two, these young english batters look just clueless. just don't  have the technical ability and  skill to play spin.
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Re: ENG vs IND series
« Reply #1604 on: March 06, 2021, 09:01:09 AM »

After Root, Foakes looks clearly the next skillful player of spin. Gets right to the pitch of the ball , kills the spin right there and then . shuffles nicely to the back foot for slightly shorter ones. above all just looks so solid and confident out there. just sad he is batting no 8.
Apart from these two, these young english batters look just clueless. just don't  have the technical ability and  skill to play spin.

Foakes currently averaging 15 for this series?
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