Topic: Ashes Test Series - 2021/22 (Read 90986 times)

edge · « **Reply #855 on:** January 04, 2022, 12:55:25 PM »

Reckon I'd crowbar Will Rhodes into the allrounder slot, but mainly fair otherwise. Not an awful looking side all things considered...

Joe Clarke if he's considered selectable these days? Jamie Overton or Brydon Carse likely would get a shout ahead of Fisher.

Jimbo · « **Reply #856 on:** January 04, 2022, 01:58:07 PM »

Not far off what I'd go for, something like:

Jake Libby/Tom Haines
Rob Yates
Josh Bohannon
~~Harry Brook/Kiran Carlsson~~ Joe Clarke
Liam Livingstone
Sam Billings
Jordan Thompson
~~Matt Fisher~~ Brydon Carse
Liam Norwell
Saqib Mahmood
~~Amar Virdi/~~Matt Parkinson

Wozaboxa · « **Reply #857 on:** January 04, 2022, 02:36:38 PM »

Quote from: edge on January 04, 2022, 12:55:25 PM

Reckon I'd crowbar Will Rhodes into the allrounder slot, but mainly fair otherwise. Not an awful looking side all things considered...

Joe Clarke if he's considered selectable these days? Jamie Overton or Brydon Carse likely would get a shout ahead of Fisher.

Big fan of Will Rhodes (You Bears) would you consider him or someone like him to be a future England Captain, worked wonders with Warwickshire last year in the county game, useful with bat and ball. Could you see someone like him making an impact on the international stage?

mo_town · « **Reply #858 on:** January 04, 2022, 03:06:54 PM »

Dont understand why people rate Liam Livingstone being worthy of a spot in Test Cricket. KP also tweeted about seeing him in the XI...he is a wonderful T20 player, but I dont think his skills will suit Test cricket.

edge · « **Reply #859 on:** January 04, 2022, 03:23:50 PM »

Quote from: mo_town on January 04, 2022, 03:06:54 PM

Dont understand why people rate Liam Livingstone being worthy of a spot in Test Cricket. KP also tweeted about seeing him in the XI...he is a wonderful T20 player, but I dont think his skills will suit Test cricket.

Was once the coming man of English first class batting before losing form - no reason he couldn't get back to that, in theory anyway. Certainly doesn't lack the talent. On the other hand, the four day grind pays signifcantly less well than franchise gigs. Averages more in FC than pretty much any other uncapped candidate.

https://www.espncricinfo.com/series/eng-lions-tour-of-sl-2016-17-1079680/sri-lanka-a-vs-england-lions-2nd-unofficial-test-1080255/full-scorecard

Jimbo · « **Reply #860 on:** January 04, 2022, 03:28:31 PM »

Quote from: mo_town on January 04, 2022, 03:06:54 PM

Dont understand why people rate Liam Livingstone being worthy of a spot in Test Cricket. KP also tweeted about seeing him in the XI...he is a wonderful T20 player, but I dont think his skills will suit Test cricket.

Pretty respectable FC average, handy with the ball, gun fielder. In a solid team he'd be an excellent X-factor player.

In the current England team I'd probably rather see Tom Abell given a crack bearing in mind he bowls useful mediums and they've already got plenty of exciting stroke players available.

Manormanic · « **Reply #861 on:** January 04, 2022, 03:30:08 PM »

Rhodes is an interesting one - his captaincy is very highly rated, but he made an error by willingly dropping down the order last season. He'd be a name in discussions, certainly. Looking at the other names posited, Haines had a great season last year, but I wonder if his technique is tight enough for the top level just yet. Clarke must still be on the outer given his previous behaviour (and I wouldn't select him in the longer formats personally anyway). Carse and, not mentioned, Simon Cook were other seamers we spoke about - though not to replace Fisher, whose combination of height, pace and bounce look made for the top level if he can stay fit.

AJ2014 · « **Reply #862 on:** January 04, 2022, 03:31:13 PM »

https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/the-ashes-stuart-broad-replaces-ollie-robinson-but-england-batting-line-up-remains-same-for-fourth-test-l9kns7vp0

Manormanic · « **Reply #863 on:** January 04, 2022, 03:34:58 PM »

Quote from: edge on January 04, 2022, 03:23:50 PM

Was once the coming man of English first class batting before losing form - no reason he couldn't get back to that, in theory anyway. Certainly doesn't lack the talent. On the other hand, the four day grind pays signifcantly less well than franchise gigs. Averages more in FC than pretty much any other uncapped candidate.

I think he is a very similar boat to Malan - he is successful in T20 cricket, so people pigeonhole him as a T20 player. Yes, he would need a run of games in the format but potentially has the game to be very useful indeed.

SD · « **Reply #864 on:** January 04, 2022, 07:39:22 PM »

Yates and Bohannon are the two uncapped batters that I like the look of. Both seem to have strong uncomplicated techniques.

Livingstone is one who I certainly would have had on this tour. His first class record is better than many who have been given opportunities in Test cricket over the last 5 years. He also seems a comparative character like Ollie Robinson which this squad on a tough tour could have done with

six and out · « **Reply #865 on:** January 04, 2022, 08:45:10 PM »

Giles: Post-Ashes sackings WON'T solve England's problems https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/cricket/article-10367111/Ashes-Ashley-Giles-insists-England-problems-WONT-solved-sackings-Australia-loss.html?ito=native_share_article-masthead

Jimbo · « **Reply #866 on:** January 04, 2022, 08:49:22 PM »

Quote from: six and out on January 04, 2022, 08:45:10 PM

Giles: Post-Ashes sackings WON'T solve England's problems https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/cricket/article-10367111/Ashes-Ashley-Giles-insists-England-problems-WONT-solved-sackings-Australia-loss.html?ito=native_share_article-masthead

Turkey: Killing me won't save your Christmas 😂

golders · « **Reply #867 on:** January 04, 2022, 08:51:06 PM »

What do we think of Giles,really? Some of what he says makes sense. But he does reek of middle management,loves a soundbite.

ppccopener · « **Reply #868 on:** January 04, 2022, 09:24:22 PM »

He is right in blaming the players won�t work, they are the best we have so there�s not much left other than to work with them.
Root will stay he desperately needs help from an experienced coach to get the best out of what we have.

Giles and Harrison absolutely have to go, Silverwood too from the head coach role.

The one day side are great but the test side needs attention now, and somehow to get playing CC at least some games in summer not as an afterthought

beaver5 · « **Reply #869 on:** January 04, 2022, 10:39:15 PM »

Quote from: golders on January 04, 2022, 08:51:06 PM

What do we think of Giles,really? Some of what he says makes sense. But he does reek of middle management,loves a soundbite.

Giles went down in my estimations when Michael Carberry talked about the tour in Australia in 2013-14. He'd done fairly well in the tests against a rampant Mitchell Johnson, yet was left out of all the subsequent ODI's despite being one of the best 50 over batsman in England at the time. He asked the then Head Coach Giles why. he hadn't played, to which Giles said he didn't know. As Carberry said, "If the Head Coach didn't know, then who the bloody hell would?"

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