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Re: 2021 World Cup T20
« Reply #15 on: October 20, 2021, 10:54:43 AM »
Quote from: ppccopener on October 19, 2021, 04:32:44 PM
Eyes on Italy for me with a bit of mixed ancestry, there are at least a couple of genuine sounding Italians in the team along with a mixed bag of others, inciuding Jade Dernbach unfortunatley.

But seriously Could England play without Morgan? Seems the idea is open in the media as a possibility for Eoin himself.

Great Captain, really great but in a 20 over game could a better player have more of an impact?

Livingstone has to be in for me, and Jordan

The genuine sounding Italians aren’t very Italian. If you mean Gian and the lad Grassi?

I have thoroughly enjoyed watching Jersey beat the Italian and German sides with their ring ins.
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Re: 2021 World Cup T20
« Reply #16 on: October 20, 2021, 11:25:26 AM »
Is this on the telly anywhere?
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Re: 2021 World Cup T20
« Reply #17 on: October 20, 2021, 11:53:28 AM »
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Re: 2021 World Cup T20
« Reply #18 on: October 20, 2021, 01:29:12 PM »
Delighted to see the Dutch side of rings ins pumped too. Go the home grown boys( with the odd exception)!
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Re: 2021 World Cup T20
« Reply #19 on: October 20, 2021, 01:48:41 PM »
Ind - Aus warm up match and India won convincingly. Opened up with spin in the power play and got 3 early wickets, they're going to be tough opposition to beat I think.

Only watched 20 mins of Englands warm up so far and Jason Roy danced around a straight one, first ball of the match. Not good.
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Re: 2021 World Cup T20
« Reply #20 on: October 20, 2021, 02:15:17 PM »
What a start for Ireland
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Re: 2021 World Cup T20
« Reply #21 on: October 20, 2021, 02:49:24 PM »
Quote from: SurreySam on October 20, 2021, 01:48:41 PM
Ind - Aus warm up match and India won convincingly. Opened up with spin in the power play and got 3 early wickets, they're going to be tough opposition to beat I think.

In all recent ICC tournaments, Ind had close to 100% wins in league games but  faltered in some playoff game (bit like SA in past). So not surprising to see Ind beat Eng and Aus in warmup games convincingly. Not sure if they can go the distance though as T20 is even more unpredictable than ODIs and anyone can beat anyone on a given day.
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Re: 2021 World Cup T20
« Reply #22 on: October 20, 2021, 03:15:49 PM »
Quote from: rickjames on October 20, 2021, 10:38:01 AM
Interesting game on between Namibia and the Netherlands

As for England I'm not sure if having Malan at first drop in the powerplay is such a good idea, quite evident that in these conditions it's so, so crucial to winning games.

Wow! Namibia and Netherlands have international cricket teams?
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Re: 2021 World Cup T20
« Reply #23 on: October 20, 2021, 04:08:12 PM »
Quote from: Kulli on October 20, 2021, 10:54:43 AM
The genuine sounding Italians aren’t very Italian. If you mean Gian and the lad Grassi?

I have thoroughly enjoyed watching Jersey beat the Italian and German sides with their ring ins.

Yes indeed I’m not sure of the qualification but there’s all sorts making up some of the teams.
I have an Italian Grandmother so I haven’t given up hope of International recognition despite  being past it and 55 !
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Re: 2021 World Cup T20
« Reply #24 on: October 20, 2021, 04:36:56 PM »
A passport or residency. Somewhat favours countries that throw out passports like confetti and had emigration to cricket playing countries.
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Re: 2021 World Cup T20
« Reply #25 on: October 20, 2021, 05:25:58 PM »
Quote from: ppccopener on October 20, 2021, 04:08:12 PM
Yes indeed I’m not sure of the qualification but there’s all sorts making up some of the teams.
I have an Italian Grandmother so I haven’t given up hope of International recognition despite  being past it and 55 !

Dernbachs mum is Italian in fairness to him.
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Re: 2021 World Cup T20
« Reply #26 on: October 20, 2021, 06:40:01 PM »
Quote from: SpiderDan on October 20, 2021, 05:25:58 PM
Dernbachs mum is Italian in fairness to him.

It’s not really a dernbach thing, I’d say 7/8 of the Italian starting 11 are ‘Italian’ by interiors passport only. I get why sides do it, it’s just not really healthy for growth of the game.
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Re: 2021 World Cup T20
« Reply #27 on: October 20, 2021, 07:00:25 PM »
Quote from: Kulli on October 20, 2021, 06:40:01 PM
It’s not really a dernbach thing, I’d say 7/8 of the Italian starting 11 are ‘Italian’ by interiors passport only. I get why sides do it, it’s just not really healthy for growth of the game.

I was referring to the post which mentioned his selection. Gareth Berg for example has done good for Italian cricket whether he's a legitimate italian or not. I can understand people's annoyances but at the same time it's helping to get more international sides involved which surely we're all for.
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Re: 2021 World Cup T20
« Reply #28 on: October 20, 2021, 07:09:59 PM »
Dernbach is indeed more qualified than almost all the Italian team. I remember thinking similar thoughts a while back seeing the Canadian team-a lot of non Canadians.

You’re right it’s not ideal but the overall exposure in a World Cup might benefit overall.

I think Kenya did have a test side so again with the African counties like Namibia potential exposure on TV might work.

Personally I can’t see any negatives expanding the game.

At the moment the financial control of the game and therefore how it runs is deceieded by very few Countries, you could argue it’s just one.
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Re: 2021 World Cup T20
« Reply #29 on: October 20, 2021, 10:51:24 PM »
If these guys are also aiding the development of the wider squads which include more homegrown players then there's also value there. For all that Dernbach isn't exactly a world beater, he's got enormous experience to pass on to the Italian players he's training and playing with.
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