Topic: Azeem Rafiq and Yorkshire CCC (Read 26863 times)

stamper · « **Reply #60 on:** November 16, 2021, 12:26:24 PM »

Quote from: ppccopener on November 16, 2021, 12:13:50 PM

It�s a significant issue the club are saying�.and we don�t know if it�s true�.that they cannot sack anyone without permission from the Colin Graves Trust.

If this is correct it may explain why those that wanted to clean up, and there must be those people at the club, had no authority to do so including the head honcho.

That situation essentially is a toothless and powerless management team.

I�d be interested to know if that really is the situation.

Absolutely. This is a key point. From what the ex-Chairman said today, the Graves Trust vetoed efforts he made to remove several Executive Directors. Unless Lord Patel has negotiated something different on acceptance of his role, he will be equally as toothless (aside from the fact that Mark Arthur has resigned. and Martyn Moxon is on "sick leave".

stamper · « **Reply #61 on:** November 16, 2021, 12:54:04 PM »

ECB now being quite rightly highlighted as the myopic, reactive, fckwitted, organisation that it is.

Aftabius · « **Reply #62 on:** November 16, 2021, 12:59:05 PM »

The ECB getting absolutely slaughtered here

Does anyone have access or know where to find the 2014 Fletcher Report being extensively referred to?
I searched tinternet but maybe my skills are not up to scratch

stamper · « **Reply #63 on:** November 16, 2021, 01:02:09 PM »

Quote from: Aftabius on November 16, 2021, 12:59:05 PM

The ECB getting absolutely slaughtered here

Does anyone have access or know where to find the 2014 Fletcher Report being extensively referred to?
I searched tinternet but maybe my skills are not up to scratch

Here? Haven't fully checked, but looks like it.

https://ray.yorksj.ac.uk/2456/1/Swain%20-%20Nothern%20Otherness%20-%20Revised.pdf

May also be this. Year is correct.

http://eprints.leedsbeckett.ac.uk/159/6/Cricket%20the%20Post-Match%20Drink%20and%20Exclusion%20of%20British%20Muslims.pdf

Bats_Entertainment · « **Reply #64 on:** November 16, 2021, 01:16:38 PM »

Quote from: Novak on November 16, 2021, 12:19:03 PM

Noone believes Root has any racial issues but the fact he has denied outright he ever saw any racism at Yorkshire ever is a problem, clearly a lie

Does anyone even believe that ?. It was rife . Root sadly is protecting his mates

Root is a good man as said by rafiq should have done the honourable thing rather than burying the truth at yorkshire

He's not a good man if he is a liar.

Root and Ballance lived together.

Novak · « **Reply #65 on:** November 16, 2021, 01:30:18 PM »

Clearly is lying is anyone going to justify here Root was not aware of anything going on and he�s never seen
Any racism at Yorkshire ?

The fact he�s lying makes his position hard to justify

He just should have told the truth in the first place

Jimbo · « **Reply #66 on:** November 16, 2021, 01:40:53 PM »

Quote from: Novak on November 16, 2021, 01:30:18 PM

Clearly is lying is anyone going to justify here Root was not aware of anything going on and he�s never seen
Any racism at Yorkshire ?

The fact he�s lying makes his position hard to justify

He just should have told the truth in the first place

Root not identifying certain things as racist is maybe not so surprising if he grew up around the same culture that treated Rafiq and others so poorly.

If you grow up in an atmosphere where bigotry is treated as the default then you'll think it's perfectly normal and likely won't identify it as bigotry/discrimination.

Wouldn't be stunned either if Root has been given a very clear line to take by the ECB's PR teams.

Bats_Entertainment · « **Reply #67 on:** November 16, 2021, 01:40:58 PM »

I am ashamed to say I have myself been in many situations where I have witnessed racism and failed to intervene or even make my thoughts known.

Bats_Entertainment · « **Reply #68 on:** November 16, 2021, 01:44:05 PM »

Quote from: Jimbo on November 16, 2021, 01:40:53 PM

Root not identifying certain things as racist is maybe not so surprising if he grew up around the same culture that treated Rafiq and others so poorly.

If you grow up in an atmosphere where bigotry is treated as the default then you'll think it's perfectly normal and likely won't identify it as bigotry/discrimination.

Wouldn't be stunned either if Root has been given a very clear line to take by the ECB's PR teams.

Did he or did he not hear those names being used would require a straight yes or no answer?

Novak · « **Reply #69 on:** November 16, 2021, 01:45:13 PM »

Would love to know if anyone else believes this too

Doesn�t make Root a racist but I think he�s lying and protecting his mates

So what we are suggesting is ecb have told root to lie and root has agreed I see�

Quote from: Jimbo on November 16, 2021, 01:40:53 PM

Root not identifying certain things as racist is maybe not so surprising if he grew up around the same culture that treated Rafiq and others so poorly.

If you grow up in an atmosphere where bigotry is treated as the default then you'll think it's perfectly normal and likely won't identify it as bigotry/discrimination.

Wouldn't be stunned either if Root has been given a very clear line to take by the ECB's PR teams.

Jimbo · « **Reply #70 on:** November 16, 2021, 01:49:48 PM »

Quote from: Bats_Entertainment on November 16, 2021, 01:44:05 PM

Did he or did he not hear those names being used would require a straight yes or no answer?

Is that what he's been asked? Similar to what Rafiq said this morning, if you're not the target of this language then it doesn't stick with you in the same way.

Bats_Entertainment · « **Reply #71 on:** November 16, 2021, 01:51:07 PM »

I don't think he's telling the truth.

Jimbo · « **Reply #72 on:** November 16, 2021, 01:51:43 PM »

Quote from: Novak on November 16, 2021, 01:45:13 PM

Would love to know if anyone else believes this too

Doesn�t make Root a racist but I think he�s lying and protecting his mates

So what we are suggesting is ecb have told root to lie and root has agreed I see�

He may well be but I don't know that you've got any more evidence to believe that than anyone would have not to?

I'm not claiming any basis to think Root has been fed a line but it would hardly be shocking for a large organisation to feed lines to senior employees to manage a PR crisis, would it?

Bats_Entertainment · « **Reply #73 on:** November 16, 2021, 01:54:46 PM »

Quote from: Jimbo on November 16, 2021, 01:49:48 PM

Is that what he's been asked? Similar to what Rafiq said this morning, if you're not the target of this language then it doesn't stick with you in the same way.

Probably not what he was asked. I don't believe you wouldn't remember

Novak · « **Reply #74 on:** November 16, 2021, 01:55:35 PM »

Let�s go with the fact ecb have forced or pushed root to say this

What kind of man does this make Root then ?

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