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Re: Ashes 2023
« Reply #45 on: June 17, 2023, 06:14:46 AM »

Bit short on runs I think but there was a hint of turn for Lyon who bowled very well, he is so underrated by  us England fans.

It’s gun barrel straight for the seamers but Root played one of his best innings IMO. His only weakness seems against high pace but that’s undone even the great players of the past maybe except Gooch.
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Re: Ashes 2023
« Reply #46 on: June 17, 2023, 06:52:59 AM »

Bairstow justified his place

Key partnership between him and Root.. That's what he gives you over Foakes. Yes he's not as accomplished with the gloves, but Foakes wouldn't play that type of counter attacking innings either. Thought we may have tried to bat through an hr this morning, then had a go before lunch. If we'd have taken a wicket last night though, the declaration would have looked great move.
 
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Re: Ashes 2023
« Reply #47 on: June 17, 2023, 07:45:44 AM »

I’m so confused.
Did the Aussies rope a dope and just let us slog ourselves out to an under par score?
OR
For the first time in my memory of Ashes cricket did the Aussies just take a backward step???
Really defensive, really early, dropping catches & then their openers looked spooked too!!!
No idea who’s on top till both sides have batted
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Re: Ashes 2023
« Reply #48 on: June 17, 2023, 08:46:00 AM »

I think were waiting for the laquer off the ball then we know quickly were this game heading
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Re: Ashes 2023
« Reply #49 on: June 17, 2023, 12:16:36 PM »

I’m so confused.
Did the Aussies rope a dope and just let us slog ourselves out to an under par score?
OR
For the first time in my memory of Ashes cricket did the Aussies just take a backward step???
Really defensive, really early, dropping catches & then their openers looked spooked too!!!
No idea who’s on top till both sides have batted

I think there is a world of nuance to the four sessions now complete.  England's score was probably 50-100 under "par" if we were prepared to grind for five sessions, but as has previously been established, we don't have a line up that can necessarily grind runs out consistently, and there has already been sign that this will not be a road for five days.  They will be happy that a statement was made, and Australia have definitely seemed spooked - not so much at the start of the day, I think that was a long held plan, but as the game went on. And Scott Boland might find himself hit out of the series pretty soon...
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Re: Ashes 2023
« Reply #50 on: June 17, 2023, 03:45:24 PM »

Uzzie you little ripper. Checks another off the bucket list.
This dude should’ve played 100+ tests by now had we appreciated him more…
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Re: Ashes 2023
« Reply #51 on: June 17, 2023, 04:32:12 PM »

Great innings from Uzzie it’s just a shame and yes I’m a Foakes fan that both him and YB cannot play in the same team because missed chances will cost us and Foakes takes these misses
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Re: Ashes 2023
« Reply #52 on: June 17, 2023, 06:35:18 PM »

Bairstow being shown for what he is - a rubbish keeper
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Re: Ashes 2023
« Reply #53 on: June 17, 2023, 06:55:31 PM »

Moeen unlucky. Thought he bowled really well with attacking fields while perhaps tiring as the day went on. What a ball to get Green - but then I suppose his drift and turn have never been in doubt.
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Re: Ashes 2023
« Reply #54 on: June 17, 2023, 07:51:14 PM »

Key partnership between him and Root.. That's what he gives you over Foakes. Yes he's not as accomplished with the gloves, but Foakes wouldn't play that type of counter attacking innings either. Thought we may have tried to bat through an hr this morning, then had a go before lunch. If we'd have taken a wicket last night though, the declaration would have looked great move.

Those two wickets we could have taken last night...
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Re: Ashes 2023
« Reply #55 on: June 17, 2023, 08:27:36 PM »

Fantastic to see how much this meant for Usman K.

https://youtu.be/gM6avebd5PI
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Re: Ashes 2023
« Reply #56 on: June 17, 2023, 10:39:14 PM »

Bairstow being shown for what he is - a rubbish keeper

Cancelled out his runs with his two misses but we know his keeping isn’t a patch on Foakes but his attacking batting style is what they want let’s hope they don’t prove to costly
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Re: Ashes 2023
« Reply #57 on: June 18, 2023, 06:41:09 AM »

Those two wickets we could have taken last night...

Yep, we could. We could have also been 300 all out. Foakes could also not have taken those chances too. I've never said Bairstow is as good a keeper, that's not a debate. Just feel he adds more with the bat and maybe sometimes that's the trade off. Not sure those chances will ultimately cost us, or if not scoring enough runs in ideal conditions on a flat track on day 1 will. If we lose, no doubt everyone on here will point to those chances missed and it would be understandable, but ultimately there are always other factors too.
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Re: Ashes 2023
« Reply #58 on: June 18, 2023, 07:55:18 AM »

I just meant the next day would have done.
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Re: Ashes 2023
« Reply #59 on: June 18, 2023, 10:04:06 AM »

Foakes would have taken that!
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