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Re: Ashes 2023
« Reply #300 on: July 02, 2023, 05:03:46 PM »
Quote from: Manormanic on July 02, 2023, 02:51:03 PM
Pretty much - you can see the bowlers end umpire unclips Green's cap and walks away from his post, so clearly he also thought the ball was dead.  Its just about right under the laws of the game, but even in a Test Match it'd feel grubby to me not to withdraw the appeal because its reprehensible under the spirit.

At the moment of impact he was unclipping the cap but hadn’t moved. I guess that’s a sign that he considered the ball dead, but when asked if he did so (when he shouldn’t have done) it’s pretty obvious that anyone would say no rather than admit to a mistake.


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Re: Ashes 2023
« Reply #301 on: July 02, 2023, 06:50:14 PM »
Quote from: Thor Odin’s Son on July 02, 2023, 03:11:31 PM
The mistakes of 2019 somewhat vanquished. 2-0 and heading to Leeds to retain the Ashes - Smith wasn’t there in 2019, he will be this time around.

First time in 22 years we have won 3 consecutive Tests in England.

How come he missed 2019?
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Re: Ashes 2023
« Reply #302 on: July 02, 2023, 07:19:23 PM »
Quote from: Bats_Entertainment on July 02, 2023, 04:03:47 PM
If you middle a ball to slip and neglect to walk off, you forfeit the right to ever even mention the 'spirit of cricket', IMHO.

That's where everyone is mistaken

Broad edged it, it hit haddin then went to slip

He certainly didn't middle it to first slip

There's been plenty of batsman who have stood there, it's why there are umpires, let them make the decision
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Re: Ashes 2023
« Reply #303 on: July 02, 2023, 07:39:46 PM »
Quote from: jonny77 on July 02, 2023, 06:50:14 PM
How come he missed 2019?
Archer hit him in the face at Lords. Smith wasn’t allowed to play in Leeds
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Re: Ashes 2023
« Reply #304 on: July 02, 2023, 08:29:10 PM »
Not allowed to play Because of concussion and protocols following knocks to the head for the player’s welfare
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Re: Ashes 2023
« Reply #305 on: July 02, 2023, 08:41:10 PM »
Quote from: alexhilly1492 on July 02, 2023, 07:19:23 PM
That's where everyone is mistaken

Broad edged it, it hit haddin then went to slip

He certainly didn't middle it to first slip

There's been plenty of batsman who have stood there, it's why there are umpires, let them make the decision

They made a decision today. Either there is a 'spirit of cricket' or there isn't. Can't have it both ways.
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Re: Ashes 2023
« Reply #306 on: July 02, 2023, 08:44:23 PM »
I'll be glad when Broad has retired. Except he'll no doubt be on TV loads talking about how great he was.
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Re: Ashes 2023
« Reply #307 on: July 02, 2023, 08:44:31 PM »
Yeah Broad can't really preach, but I think this is slightly different. Nobody walks nowadays, yet I don't think everyone would do this. Just as not every team would mankad.  Still not a great look imo.
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Re: Ashes 2023
« Reply #308 on: July 02, 2023, 08:45:08 PM »
Quote from: Bats_Entertainment on July 02, 2023, 08:44:23 PM
I'll be glad when Broad has retired. Except he'll no doubt be on TV loads talking about how great he was.

He hasn't been bad tbf. I'd have taken his career
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Re: Ashes 2023
« Reply #309 on: July 02, 2023, 08:46:13 PM »
Quote from: jonny77 on July 02, 2023, 08:44:31 PM
Yeah Broad can't really preach, but I think this is slightly different. Nobody walks nowadays, yet I don't think everyone would do this. Just as not every team would mankad.  Still not a great look imo.

Just because a lot of people do something doesn't make it right.
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Re: Ashes 2023
« Reply #310 on: July 02, 2023, 08:47:03 PM »
Quote from: jonny77 on July 02, 2023, 08:45:08 PM
He hasn't been bad tbf. I'd have taken his career

Good cricketer. (No Swearing Please) person.
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Re: Ashes 2023
« Reply #311 on: July 02, 2023, 08:49:13 PM »
Quote from: Bats_Entertainment on July 02, 2023, 08:47:03 PM
Good cricketer. (No Swearing Please) person.

Have you actually met the guy?
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Re: Ashes 2023
« Reply #312 on: July 02, 2023, 09:03:14 PM »
Quote from: Bats_Entertainment on July 02, 2023, 08:46:13 PM
Just because a lot of people do something doesn't make it right.

I never said it did, but it is generally accepted. Not sure this is.
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Re: Ashes 2023
« Reply #313 on: July 02, 2023, 09:08:55 PM »
Quote from: golders on July 02, 2023, 08:49:13 PM
Have you actually met the guy?

No. Thank goodness.
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Re: Ashes 2023
« Reply #314 on: July 02, 2023, 09:09:32 PM »
Quote from: jonny77 on July 02, 2023, 09:03:14 PM
I never said it did, but it is generally accepted. Not sure this is.

Watch this space.
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