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Re: Ashes 2023
« Reply #360 on: July 04, 2023, 04:26:58 PM »

Tongue bowled really well he has a bit of extra pace and even on these turgid pitches made things happen.

We saw how well Cummins and Starc bowled to hurry up our batters we need to do the same.

Robinson is quality he gets good players out.
We can get a result at Headingley it’s just a shame we didn’t take our chances in the first two games. The Aussies were always going to be a big test
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Re: Ashes 2023
« Reply #361 on: July 04, 2023, 05:50:44 PM »

Yes he has had shoulder problems before and a lengthy period out. The only sensible decision is get a proper keeper in and JB plays as a batsman. Calling up Lawrence with no big scores makes no sense.
I think Ali will play and Wood with Anderson and maybe Tongue missing out. Any overheads and Robinson will move it around

Didn't Lawrence get a ton fifty a week ago for Essex?
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Re: Ashes 2023
« Reply #362 on: July 04, 2023, 06:02:56 PM »

Didn't Lawrence get a ton fifty a week ago for Essex?
He is a good player no doubt I guess it depends of whether the view is we need a proper keeper. For me we do and make the best of the batting order.
It’s a tough ask to come in now and play in place of Pope. I like Lawrence but 3 looks too high. I think Ali will come in which gives us potentially more with the bat.

Our tail looks too long to me at Lords.
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Re: Ashes 2023
« Reply #363 on: July 04, 2023, 06:07:23 PM »

News saying Brook is batting 3.
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Re: Ashes 2023
« Reply #364 on: July 04, 2023, 06:49:43 PM »

Don't mind it, and with Woakes, Wood and Moeen also shores up what was a pretty long tail
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Re: Ashes 2023
« Reply #365 on: July 04, 2023, 07:31:11 PM »

He is a good player no doubt I guess it depends of whether the view is we need a proper keeper. For me we do and make the best of the batting order.
It’s a tough ask to come in now and play in place of Pope. I like Lawrence but 3 looks too high. I think Ali will come in which gives us potentially more with the bat.

Our tail looks too long to me at Lords.

There isn't another keeper in the squad.
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Re: Ashes 2023
« Reply #366 on: July 04, 2023, 07:34:06 PM »

Ali for Pope, Woakes for one of the seamers.
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Re: Ashes 2023
« Reply #368 on: July 04, 2023, 10:13:15 PM »

I'm excited to see Murphy get a game, I'd bring Boland back in for Hazelwood too. We look too strong for England, a series loss will be a good way for Broad to finish up.
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Re: Ashes 2023
« Reply #369 on: July 05, 2023, 09:17:17 AM »

Why are England persisting with Anderson? He has hardly looked threatening so far. Time for England to look beyond?
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Re: Ashes 2023
« Reply #370 on: July 05, 2023, 09:45:41 AM »

Aren't they 'resting' him for the 3rd test? I thought Wood was coming in for Tongue, Woakes for Anderson, Ali for Pope?

He hasn't been at his best obviously, but he hasn't been terrible. He has beat the bat a fair bit too, but he's admitted himself he's not been at his best. The pitches really haven't suited him either. Anderson is still a class act in the right conditions.
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Re: Ashes 2023
« Reply #371 on: July 05, 2023, 10:48:27 AM »

XI announced - Woakes, Wood, Moeen in for Pope, Anderson, Tongue

Don't mind it to be honest - certainly shores up the tail and we've a point of difference now with Wood. Guess the concern is how Brook will bat a few spots up...
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Re: Ashes 2023
« Reply #372 on: July 05, 2023, 10:58:35 AM »

The selections for this series get worse by the game. Glad to see Wood back but why are they suddenly a batsman light :(
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HS: 156, BB: 7-20

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Re: Ashes 2023
« Reply #373 on: July 05, 2023, 11:12:26 AM »

I mean, if your top 6 aren't doing the job then 7 isn't going to make much of a difference. Think it's absolutely fine.
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Re: Ashes 2023
« Reply #374 on: July 05, 2023, 12:06:04 PM »

I don’t think the selectors had any choice but to bolster the tail with Woakes and Ali. Wood gives us a bit extra pace and Broad and Robinson look good to me.

Unconvinced about Brook 3 it is a big ask but let’s see
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