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Re: England v india
« Reply #45 on: January 27, 2024, 07:11:52 PM »

Important innings for Pope and hopefully the start of justifying his place in the side. A stat being thrown around today is that before this innings, he had only passed 30 on two occasions in the second innings in 29 attempts, which is an astonishingly poor record. At 26, he isn't a young player.

This will be a long tour as any trip to India always is. We have only won one series there in my lifetime and that was when Panesar and Swann were bowling together which in my view was the best spin pairing England have ever had (people might point to Jim Laker and Tony Lock but that was from the uncovered pitches in England era which was a completely different game for a slow bowler). But good to see some genuine fight being put up
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Re: England v india
« Reply #46 on: January 27, 2024, 07:17:27 PM »

Agree SD about pope

Hopefully he kicks on now
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Re: England v india
« Reply #47 on: January 27, 2024, 07:31:44 PM »

Harry Brook?

Yes indeed he has some serious talent probably better in short format than Pope.
I know OP has recently been put in the short format but I think he will play the majority in tests

Brook def has the power to do well in both formats.

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« Reply #48 on: January 27, 2024, 10:31:12 PM »

I know he's only had a short test career, but he's averaging 62 in 20 innings. If he kicks on under Stokes captaincy, Brook could be unbelievably good. I like Pope though, but he has to start delivering consistently soon. But many expected it to be over today, so fair play to him especially for showing some fight. Although he'll probably need to double it for us to have a chance!
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Re: England v india
« Reply #49 on: January 28, 2024, 08:00:46 AM »

I know he's only had a short test career, but he's averaging 62 in 20 innings. If he kicks on under Stokes captaincy, Brook could be unbelievably good. I like Pope though, but he has to start delivering consistently soon. But many expected it to be over today, so fair play to him especially for showing some fight. Although he'll probably need to double it for us to have a chance!

Pope since he moved to 3 has def improved, in this innings from all reports it’s one of the best innings against India on their own turf.

Brook will flourish as every one under the new management. I think myself all England need to do is bat him in the right position, not too high so he can play his shots freely. He absolutely has the talent.

Hartley has 3 as I type this, we have a chance today and that’s unwavering backing from Stokes paying off
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Re: England v india
« Reply #50 on: January 28, 2024, 08:11:35 AM »

Meanwhile, in Australia @Thor Odin’s Son 😆
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Re: England v india
« Reply #51 on: January 28, 2024, 09:51:17 AM »

Wow! What have I woken up to. Australia lost and England in the middle of amazing bouncebackability. So exciting! 😃😃
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Re: England v india
« Reply #52 on: January 28, 2024, 10:09:10 AM »

A moment of magic from Stokes  :)
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Re: England v india
« Reply #53 on: January 28, 2024, 12:02:36 PM »

Another great Lancashire  left armer....Kerrigan mrk 2

Pure CBF.   :D
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Re: England v india
« Reply #54 on: January 28, 2024, 12:20:47 PM »

Surely that has to go down as one of Englands best wins away from home? To comeback and bowl India out with your best spinner injured, a bloke who'd recorded the worst figures of any debutant in the first innings (I think), a teenager still raw and a very good India batting line up (admittedly missing Kholi), is some achievement!

Stokes and Macullum for England when Southgate goes!!
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Re: England v india
« Reply #55 on: January 28, 2024, 12:25:16 PM »

England do seem to be single handedly reinvigorating Test cricket! They looked outclassed, outgunned after 1st innings. We’ve had so many close games recently.
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Re: England v india
« Reply #56 on: January 28, 2024, 12:25:49 PM »

Definatley up there as one of the best wins against India at home from any team.

Hartley got runs and a seven four, Pope put us back in the game so MOM might be a tricky call.

With virtually everything taken behind the stumps too that must boost the bowlers
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Re: England v india
« Reply #57 on: January 28, 2024, 12:32:23 PM »

Young Hartley.......

*eats Humble Pie....
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Re: England v india
« Reply #58 on: January 28, 2024, 01:08:46 PM »

I wouldn't worry mate, think we'd all written it Hartley and them all off after the first innings 😆
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Re: England v india
« Reply #59 on: January 28, 2024, 07:47:30 PM »

Pffft (what do I know :)) - that was a fantastic effort and a great fight-back - so good to see Hartley rise like a Phoenix and amongst the wickets, there may be more resilience to this England side than at first thought!!!

Still don't think the selection was right for this test - for my money, Robinson for Ahmed, Jimmy for Wood and Bash for (an injured) Leach for next test.
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