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Re: Off the back of the Legend thread, a question/challenge for the batmakers
« Reply #30 on: December 01, 2010, 11:30:32 PM »
The real question is Jonpinson are you going to buy one?!

If I had X amount of cash available I would have one.

Then again if I had X amount of cash i would be like petehosk and have one of every bat available! I would probably use some of them as firewood too... just because I could lol
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Re: Off the back of the Legend thread, a question/challenge for the batmakers
« Reply #31 on: December 01, 2010, 11:33:19 PM »
Quote from: sultanofswing on December 01, 2010, 11:30:32 PM
The real question is Jonpinson are you going to buy one?!

If I had X amount of cash available I would have one.

Then again if I had X amount of cash i would be like petehosk and have one of every bat available! I would probably use some of them as firewood too... just because I could lol

I wouldn't have emailed 4 companies and ran two threads if I didn't intend on buying one :)
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Re: Off the back of the Legend thread, a question/challenge for the batmakers
« Reply #32 on: December 01, 2010, 11:33:38 PM »
Interesting though Simmy and you assumption is based on what mate


i follow no trends ask some of the sponsors on here they will tell you i buy off them i buy for quality hense why i suspect my kit is as good as anybody on here infact sounding very smug i know it is


Simmy i like most of your post but find your last one a tad stupid i would go as far as saying you have never even tried Dans kit at all
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Re: Off the back of the Legend thread, a question/challenge for the batmakers
« Reply #33 on: December 01, 2010, 11:38:15 PM »
Gents I understand everyone is entitled to their opinions, can we leave the fighting out? It is nothing to do with the topic of the thread, and chances are you are going to wake up tomorrow and feel a bit of a tit when you look back.
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Re: Off the back of the Legend thread, a question/challenge for the batmakers
« Reply #34 on: December 01, 2010, 11:41:26 PM »
trust me i aint like i said i tried to explain myself when somebody knocked a brand i know very well and i not having it simple sponsor or no sponsor


Jon i understand what your after but why buy a GN when you could just buy A Laver for the price and a very nice PB at that
and i sure some of the sponsors on here could sort you out for the price
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Re: Off the back of the Legend thread, a question/challenge for the batmakers
« Reply #35 on: December 01, 2010, 11:51:11 PM »
I think a laver would end up costing a lot more
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Re: Off the back of the Legend thread, a question/challenge for the batmakers
« Reply #36 on: December 01, 2010, 11:53:33 PM »
mine did not 280 plus 30 for knocking in had to pay no fees because James put it down as a gift



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Re: Off the back of the Legend thread, a question/challenge for the batmakers
« Reply #37 on: December 02, 2010, 12:07:14 AM »
Quote from: procricket on December 01, 2010, 11:53:33 PM
mine did not 280 plus 30 for knocking in had to pay no fees because James put it down as a gift

They work out considerably more now the exchange rate has gone bad.
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Re: Off the back of the Legend thread, a question/challenge for the batmakers
« Reply #38 on: December 02, 2010, 08:41:18 AM »
On that note Jon, have you put in an open request for the batmakers on the forum to provide you with a quote for a legend like bat with 20 odd straight grains and see what they come back with. Clearly the willow is difficult to come by? Maybe Talisman has a couple of 40 year old trees he could chop for you?

On the Laver topic, Lavers are now very expensive thanks to the changes in exchange rate. The basic Carbo Churchill has changed from £165 last year to £220 now, so you won't get a PB at the price stated anymore. In addition, whether or not he puts it down as a gift, you may still get costoms charges, especially as he uses someone like Fedex now who charge for pretty much everything.

On the Chase topic, I've the ex-pro Chase bat that's been doing the rounds on here now, and it seems sound enough from the mallet. I'll post a comment regarding its performance when I've used it in the nets properly.
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Re: Off the back of the Legend thread, a question/challenge for the batmakers
« Reply #39 on: December 02, 2010, 09:01:25 AM »
Quote from: procricket on December 01, 2010, 11:33:38 PM
Interesting though Simmy and you assumption is based on what mate

cos u talk some right (No Swearing Please) lol
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Re: Off the back of the Legend thread, a question/challenge for the batmakers
« Reply #40 on: December 02, 2010, 09:03:07 AM »
Quote from: procricket on December 01, 2010, 11:33:38 PM
Simmy i like most of your post but find your last one a tad stupid i would go as far as saying you have never even tried Dans kit at all

ive used a chase bat was small about 2.7 had laminated toe

wasnt all that tbh bit of a disapointment compared to some of the other bats on here
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Re: Off the back of the Legend thread, a question/challenge for the batmakers
« Reply #41 on: December 02, 2010, 09:04:34 AM »
Now now sim let's not go there it's just a disscsion on cricket bats plus it's just a forum
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Re: Off the back of the Legend thread, a question/challenge for the batmakers
« Reply #42 on: December 02, 2010, 09:39:10 AM »
The difficulty isn't getting a bat that performs excellently, the problem is getting a bat with the looks that people perceive make a bat justifiable for the cost.  In general the clefts with more grains are heavier / more dense so it makes it difficult and rare for someone to get hold of a cleft with all sapwood and loads of grains that is light based on the volumes bought.  Also some willow merchants hold them back and are not offered in the batches for sale but can be available on request if you build a relationship and they have some. 

edit: Just had a quick read through and Matty H4L gives a great explanation for this as well
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Re: Off the back of the Legend thread, a question/challenge for the batmakers
« Reply #43 on: December 02, 2010, 10:38:34 AM »
Quote from: tim2000s on December 02, 2010, 08:41:18 AM
On that note Jon, have you put in an open request for the batmakers on the forum to provide you with a quote for a legend like bat with 20 odd straight grains and see what they come back with.

I hoped that is how this thread might be interpreted. I would have no problem with people assuming that is what I was aiming for.

It is pretty obvious I think what I'm trying to do here. I got a bit annoyed yesterday at the reaction to the Legends by certain people, so I am trying to justify their price to everyone, myself included.

If I ordered a Private Bin, it would cost more, and would be made from the third best grade of willow that Laver has. I don't see the value in it. Laver's top 20% of his willow isn't going to be somehow magically better than the top 1% that GN gets. Alot of this is hokum and mumbo jumbo. 'If it costs more, it must be better' etc.

I'm still waiting to be told about a viable alternative, a maker who has enough wood of this quality regularly in stock, who will do a bat for under £320. It is amazing that those who were so quick to criticise the Legends yesterday with comments like 'I'd expect perfection for £320' haven't reappeared showing me these mythical batmakers who must make them flawless bats for £100 all the time.

Strange.
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Re: Off the back of the Legend thread, a question/challenge for the batmakers
« Reply #44 on: December 02, 2010, 11:13:14 AM »
Not sure whose been saying what with regards to mythical batmakers but let me ask you a question

What do you expect from bat costing that much money!

I ask because, like I said previously, it is the buyers perception that determines the cost.  Let me use an example, the bat I sent off to AOC last year for the gear test - 8 grains, v-small stain on the face, classic shape and I thought exceptional performance. Would you guys accept/be happy with a bat like that for £300+ pounds!!!!
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