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General Cricket => Your Cricket => Topic started by: tim2000s on March 21, 2011, 08:50:31 AM
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Been watching the videos from all the guys who have put theirs up and it has been enlightening in a couple of ways:
- The standard at which people on the forum play is not really too far from mine.
- I'm a better batsman than I thought, given that the videos are of batsmen rather than bowlers!
Anyone else been thinking along similar lines?
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Been watching the videos from all the guys who have put theirs up and it has been enlightening in a couple of ways:
- The standard at which people on the forum play is not really too far from mine.
- I'm a better batsman than I thought, given that the videos are of batsmen rather than bowlers!
Anyone else been thinking along similar lines?
It's nice to see that some of the batsmen on here have the same problems as I have! I agree on the level of cricket though!
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defo and u dont realise how (No Swearing Please) u are untill u watch ur own vid back lol
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defo and u dont realise how (No Swearing Please) u are untill u watch ur own vid back lol
Nope, I know how crap I am ;)
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defo and u dont realise how (No Swearing Please) u are untill u watch ur own vid back lol
Agree with Tumo...
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bit harsh what standard do u guys play?
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Not about what standard they play mate as rhe most awful of payers can play at a higher level of club cricket. Mainly for a couple of reasons, the club needed to full a cap last minute or simply their face fits. It's surprising how many people have played premier league level because they "fit in"
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bit harsh what standard do u guys play?
Surrey Cricket League, Division 3 last season. This season it will be either Kent Cricket League, or South Thames League, dependent on which team I end up getting in to.
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bit harsh what standard do u guys play?
Lincolnshire league div 2, a decent enough standard. I'm a bowler though, so I'm used to my batting being on the weak side, even if it is improving! I could probably play a division higher, I don't know, all I know is I'm comfortable with the side I'm in, and they're nice guys! It's good enough for me!
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Surrey Cricket League, Division 2 last season. This season it will be either Kent Cricket League, or South Thames League, dependent on which team I end up getting in to.
which club did you play for, I know alot of sides Surrey way.
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Lincolnshire league div 2, a decent enough standard. I'm a bowler though, so I'm used to my batting being on the weak side, even if it is improving! I could probably play a division higher, I don't know, all I know is I'm comfortable with the side I'm in, and they're nice guys! It's good enough for me!
Yeah, I'm a bowler too, so that's why watching "batsmen" is very comforting... ;)
which club did you play for, I know alot of sides Surrey way.
Played for Wimbledon Corinthians last couple of seasons, but occasionally.
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funny thing is in are league
all the best bowlers are of the time the best batters as well!
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Been watching the videos from all the guys who have put theirs up and it has been enlightening in a couple of ways:
- The standard at which people on the forum play is not really too far from mine.
- I'm a better batsman than I thought, given that the videos are of batsmen rather than bowlers!
Anyone else been thinking along similar lines?
Without being disrespectful I've seen videos of players on here who talk themselves up as if they are a couple of steps away from county level or at the very least playing in the highest league form in their area, yet like you Tim their actual level is not too far different to mine, and I'm under no false illusions about my skill level. Makes me confident for the season to come :)
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Haha most of us know we are crap compared to the elite, as long as you love the game i think its cool, and dont take yourself too seriously, its good on here as improvements are often obvious and a real change can be seen if adopting the correct advice, as i ofund with some of buzz's advice last year. Its refreshing knowing we are all fairly standard in terms of ability with as few exceptions at both end of the scale! :D
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This is worth a read too - not totally relevent to this topic - but I think it is helpful to everyone
http://www.pitchvision.com/perfect-cricket-timing
typically the difference at club level between an average player and a good player is what is in between the ears rather than their technique
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Jon is right in what he is saying, as no one on here should be talking themselves up and the ones that do, you will find generally can't bat.
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i dont really talk my self up as a "batter" however i will talk my self up as a "keeper" all day long
i think sometimes it helps knowing your very good at something as confidance is a big part of the game like buzz has said its whats upstairs half of time and peoples mentatlity
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i dont really talk my self up as a "batter" however i will talk my self up as a "keeper" all day long
i think sometimes it helps knowing your very good at something as confidance is a big part of the game like buzz has said its whats upstairs half of time and peoples mentatlity
I don't think anyone is talking about your vid specifically mate. As has been noted, you don't have the most classical technique going, but I have seen many players of your type succeed in environments where it isn't obvious how they do it. If it works for you, who cares? :)
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i dont really talk my self up as a "batter" however i will talk my self up as a "keeper" all day long
i think sometimes it helps knowing your very good at something as confidance is a big part of the game like buzz has said its whats upstairs half of time and peoples mentatlity
Fair point really Simmy. I've always been a bowler who likes nice bats. This season I am having to become more of a batsman so that I can keep getting picked as my bowling days are numbered.
All the advice is seriously worth it!
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I don't think anyone is talking about your vid specifically mate.
maybe triggered the topic tho?
post two vids up and then this appears.
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maybe triggered the topic tho?
post two vids up and then this appears.
Fair point, but if anything you're generally taking the piss out of yourself on here. Some however have posted vids and when there is criticism they can't take it because their illusion of them being the next Bradman is shattered :D
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maybe triggered the topic tho?
post two vids up and then this appears.
There was the barnfield, then fletcheruk, and finally yours. Three vids was enough evidence for my post!
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other things is possible as well
when people record net sessions some people cut it out and blend it ball my ball but i mean there could be bad shots cut out so every shot looks good etc.
i was gonna edit mine so you just got the balls and none of the 10 seconds inbetween the bowlers to keep the vid shorter.
but then i thought id just leave it full un edited so everybody could see the good the bad the ugly and the piss taking inbetween.
my fav part of my vid is "moose u can take ur hat off u know everybody knows ur ginger" lol
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Not sure it was aimed at you specifically simmy, thougnt I can see why you might be offended ;)
I'm very much bowler who enjoys batting but can't bat for (No Swearing Please), however at the first possible oppertunity I want to get a video up here for people to pick my technique to bits as there's no coaching at all available over here, and I've got plenty of free time and am very keen to work on my batting.
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Not sure it was aimed at you specifically simmy, thougnt I can see why you might be offended ;)
dont get wrong end of stick im not offended and like u said i put a video up so people can pick at my batting lol
if people think am dog poo then fair enough but for standard i play am good enough lol
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Not even a tiny little wee bit?
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As the OP, it wasn't aimed at Simmy. It was revealing to see that a lot of the people on here seem to play at a similar level to me and made me realise that I probably can bat!
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To be honest most of the videos on are unnatural and Simmy i do not mine your or fletch there taken as they are
Looking at some makes me laugh they try so hard to look correct they are off balance i though your and Ryan were done as a real net and not somebody facing half volleys and keeping a high elbow and checking the shot although not keeping there balance
Batting is not about looking correct it about scoring runs and scoring runs is about you and understanding the way you play.
I play at a very good standard but do not care for looking good for a reason i think to many on here look at the pro and think they do it to be stylish but in truth do it because it works for them
Look at some world beaters in the world cup they hardly conform
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If you look at the forum as a whole, the people who actually play a good standard are the people who never mention they play a good standard.
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what does it matter what standard people are at though ????????
Though the idea of cricket is enjoyment
I have always thought getting a 100 is a 100 no matter what age or standard
When i was younger i cared to much about standard and not as much enjoyment now i think work all week and it only about enjoyment
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what does it matter what standard people are at though ????????
Though the idea of cricket is enjoyment
I have always thought getting a 100 is a 100 no matter what age or standard
Fair points Dave. I think it was more linked to the hypothetical question about a CBF match, rather than anything to do with whether other people are any good or not!
Just me being insecure about whether I can play cricket!
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I would love to come down and pump you southern shandy drinkers to all parts :o
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I would love to come down and pump you southern shandy drinkers to all parts :o
That's alright Dave, with my Colly Wobblers, I'd have you first ball.... ;)
Q. What defines southern shandy drinker?
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Only joking you have the Watford Gap i have the Cheshire interface mate.
To be honest best drinking sessions i have had are in the west country
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my feelings on this is , a lot of lower order bats can block out for ages if they wanted to , the problem comes when they have to play some shots I think a lot of batting is to do with shot selection. the other thing is as someone has said already its a lot to do with the mental side of batting, if your batting 9 10 Jack your automatically thinking its ok if i dont score runs im not a batter in this side its the attitude you have to get out of, I bat 4/5 for my 1st XI but when playing rep stuff i tend to bat 10 or 11 as im an opening bowler to.
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my feelings on this is , a lot of lower order bats can block out for ages if they wanted to , the problem comes when they have to play some shots I think a lot of batting is to do with shot selection. the other thing is as someone has said already its a lot to do with the mental side of batting, if your batting 9 10 Jack your automatically thinking its ok if i dont score runs im not a batter in this side its the attitude you have to get out of, I bat 4/5 for my 1st XI but when playing rep stuff i tend to bat 10 or 11 as im an opening bowler to.
It's not so much the mindset, it's more the confidence I feel! I can play plenty of shots in the nets, but when I get into the middle my confidence dries up.
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my feelings on this is , a lot of lower order bats can block out for ages if they wanted to , the problem comes when they have to play some shots I think a lot of batting is to do with shot selection. the other thing is as someone has said already its a lot to do with the mental side of batting, if your batting 9 10 Jack your automatically thinking its ok if i dont score runs im not a batter in this side its the attitude you have to get out of, I bat 4/5 for my 1st XI but when playing rep stuff i tend to bat 10 or 11 as im an opening bowler to.
I think it's a good point. I've often found that I come in when batting low down the order and we are chasing a total, so the ability to select your shot and defend the people below you becomes paramount.
I'm a terrible tailender in respect to scoring runs quickly with only a few balls to face. I'd rather build an innings than come in with two overs to go and have a slog. That's just me though.
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I think it's a good point. I've often found that I come in when batting low down the order and we are chasing a total, so the ability to select your shot and defend the people below you becomes paramount.
I'm a terrible tailender in respect to scoring runs quickly with only a few balls to face. I'd rather build an innings than come in with two overs to go and have a slog. That's just me though.
Same, I've got little power behind me, so I have to try and work it away. Although if someone drops it short I can still put that sort of crap away! When I put my mind to it, or if someone behind the stumps has a dig at me, I can play some decent shots, but it's more timing than brute force, and I can't slog for toffee!
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Same, I've got little power behind me, so I have to try and work it away. Although if someone drops it short I can still put that sort of crap away! When I put my mind to it, or if someone behind the stumps has a dig at me, I can play some decent shots, but it's more timing than brute force, and I can't slog for toffee!
Like all bowlers though, we think we can bat ;)
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Like all bowlers though, we think we can bat ;)
And you often cant,
Lets get back on topic now.
I enjoy watching video's of people batting as I like to see how others approach certain shots and see if it would be any use to my technique,
As for making others feel better in the own ability, That just means to me that you could be slightly insecure in your own ability,
Simmy does not have a perfect technique, But i'd like to see how many runs he scored last season I am guessing a good bunch of runs and at a good rate, As he seems he doesnt wish to hang around,
I feel the need to bring this topic up was rather stupid, As all you were going to do is offend others, Which you either like to do, Or you just didnt think it through well enough.
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And you often cant,
Lets get back on topic now.
I enjoy watching video's of people batting as I like to see how others approach certain shots and see if it would be any use to my technique,
As for making others feel better in the own ability, That just means to me that you could be slightly insecure in your own ability,
Simmy does not have a perfect technique, But i'd like to see how many runs he scored last season I am guessing a good bunch of runs and at a good rate, As he seems he doesnt wish to hang around,
I feel the need to bring this topic up was rather stupid, As all you were going to do is offend others, Which you either like to do, Or you just didnt think it through well enough.
What is offensive about saying he watched some videos of others and made the realisation he isn't as bad as he thought?
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It's not so much the mindset, it's more the confidence I feel! I can play plenty of shots in the nets, but when I get into the middle my confidence dries up.
I see this alot people play all the shots in nets but then tense up at the crease which is thankfully a problem I have never suffered from (touch wood)
Plus I am not good just very lucky with a big bat and seems to work as should be taking the next step up this year
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What is offensive about saying he watched some videos of others and made the realisation he isn't as bad as he thought?
I have not said it was offensive, I have raised the point was it really needed to make a topic based on that he isnt as poor as he thought, Surely his average for 2010 season would of illustrated his own level for batting,
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And you often cant,
Lets get back on topic now.
I enjoy watching video's of people batting as I like to see how others approach certain shots and see if it would be any use to my technique,
And gives us the chance to work out whether we'd be any good as coaches by seeing whether we spot what Buzz does...
As for making others feel better in the own ability, That just means to me that you could be slightly insecure in your own ability,
Yup, and I admitted that.
Simmy does not have a perfect technique, But i'd like to see how many runs he scored last season I am guessing a good bunch of runs and at a good rate, As he seems he doesnt wish to hang around,
I imagine that he's a pain in the butt to bowl at too.
I feel the need to bring this topic up was rather stupid, As all you were going to do is offend others, Which you either like to do, Or you just didnt think it through well enough.
I had no intention of offending anyone, and I'm not sure why it should offend anyone? I was observing that I'm probably not as bad as I thought and I think I'd stand up okay in a CBF team, rather than having a go at anyone or singling them out for criticism. If you look at the leagues in which most of us who have commented play, that seems to be born out.
If I have offended you then I apologise.
I have not said it was offensive, I have raised the point was it really needed to make a topic based on that he isnt as poor as he thought, Surely his average for 2010 season would of illustrated his own level for batting,
Which isn't really indicative as I have too many not outs and not enough runs, and this season, I am mostly learning to bat! :)
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Simmy does not have a perfect technique, But i'd like to see how many runs he scored last season I am guessing a good bunch of runs and at a good rate, As he seems he doesnt wish to hang around,
in all formats of the game i probs got about 600-700ish
but your right i dont like hanging around. that is my biggest downfall. weather i bat 1-6-8 i play the same game
hit the bad ball block the good ball its simple. but my issue is when the field is spread i still "think" i can go over the top id say 90% of time im out caught never bowled or lbw
i dont have a good technique but that doesnt stop me scoring runs. id just like to improve my tecnique as i think it limits my scoring shots. i am not very strong on the leg side for reasons discussed in another topic.
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I imagine that he's a pain in the butt to bowl at too.
just bowl on a length on leg stick ill not get it off the square lol
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in all formats of the game i probs got about 600-700ish
but your right i dont like hanging around. that is my biggest downfall. weather i bat 1-6-8 i play the same game
hit the bad ball block the good ball its simple. but my issue is when the field is spread i still "think" i can go over the top id say 90% of time im out caught never bowled or lbw
i dont have a good technique but that doesnt stop me scoring runs. id just like to improve my tecnique as i think it limits my scoring shots. i am not very strong on the leg side for reasons discussed in another topic.
You look like a pain to bowl at as you'll probably hit most things, quite hard. I reckon you need a long on and a long off, and we'd need to bowl at your pads on a yorker length. Maybe late inswing to dry up your run scoring?
EDIT: Guessed prior to your post!
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bingo! lol
or just like one of captins did to me last year. gets the bowler to bowl me a half volley smash it for four over mid off..
drops the fielder and i get an over of half volleys on offstick laws of physics one was gonna go to hand. because i dont change the way i bat for field placment. my biggest problem he drops the fielder and im still thinking well (No Swearing Please) it ill go over the top of him lol
im hoping this year with a bat that has a much bigger middle with some of my shots they will be more forgiving
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don't forget the short straight one Tim ;)
oh and Simmy...
Typically the difference at club level between an average player and a good player is what is in between the ears rather than their technique
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yeah like discussed with buzz before anything tight to my body i cant get away because i am to cramped only score when i can free my arms.
and yep i read that before buzz wise words! my captin is allways banging on about that.
ive got the ablitly to score (No Swearing Please) loads but i dont because i dont think
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bingo! lol
or just like one of captins did to me last year. gets the bowler to bowl me a half volley smash it for four over mid off..
drops the fielder and i get an over of half volleys on offstick laws of physics one was gonna go to hand. because i dont change the way i bat for field placment. my biggest problem he drops the fielder and im still thinking well (No Swearing Please) it ill go over the top of him lol
im hoping this year with a bat that has a much bigger middle with some of my shots they will be more forgiving
I love it, it didn't work last year, so I'll use a bigger bat! That'll show them! ;)
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humm - might be fun bowling around the wicket just outside the off stump too...
love the "just get a bigger bat" mentality - has to be the only way to go :D
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im gonna bat with it so the edges face the bowler that should scare them lol
got bowled twice last year by one of the top clubs they have a left armed bowler thats pretty sharp and he bowls big inswing as well
left arm over inswing = simmys game over lol
i do open my stance up alittle bit more to people round the wicket lol
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If you know where you can improve that's half the problem mate but hey keep trying and you will get there just keep chatting to buzz ;)
I would have different plans to you though :)
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It isn't an offensive thread, otherwise the mods would have deleted it, rather than contributing to it.
I have not said it was offensive, I have raised the point was it really needed to make a topic based on that he isnt as poor as he thought, Surely his average for 2010 season would of illustrated his own level for batting,
But it isn't based on Simmy's vid, or anyone elses in particular. Tim's point was that it is easy to get the impression on here that alot of people play at a very high level, and thus develop something of an inferiority complex from it. He summed it up well by using the CBF match analogy.
His point was purely to express his relief that there isn't a huge skill difference between him and some others on here.
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i cud do with improving me "fitness" more than anything
tend to find when batting abit i get tierd makes me want to slog more lol
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i cud do with improving me "fitness" more than anything
tend to find when batting abit i get tierd makes me want to slog more lol
That the point where your feet stop moving?
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roco i dont think jon is coming acoss like a (No Swearing Please) at all?
dont see what all fuss is about lol. and tim nar guess my feet work more when am tierd cos i come down track for big hits lol just cant be arsed to hit singles lol
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Simmy, any chance of bringing your camcorder weds if you are coming?
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dont see why not nick...
its a little kodac pocket cam just screw it onto tripod does job :D
had to borrow ryans SD card tho as ive only got a 1gb.
if u have a big SD card nick i can record and just give u the card back to edit/put on ur site etc do what ever u want.
on a 4gb card u get about 40 mins of recording
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dont see why not nick...
its a little kodac pocket cam just screw it onto tripod does job :D
had to borrow ryans SD card tho as ive only got a 1gb.
if u have a big SD card nick i can record and just give u the card back to edit/put on ur site etc do what ever u want.
on a 4gb card u get about 40 mins of recording
Got an 8gb from my broken camcorder will bring that and the tripod if you need it.
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I think it's a good point. I've often found that I come in when batting low down the order and we are chasing a total, so the ability to select your shot and defend the people below you becomes paramount.
I'm a terrible tailender in respect to scoring runs quickly with only a few balls to face. I'd rather build an innings than come in with two overs to go and have a slog. That's just me though.
this is true sometimes u get the reputation that your just a tail ender when sometimes you have worked hard to improve your batting but you will never be given the chance to prove other than at nets but I think once you are classed as a "tailender" its really hard to get out of. and when you do get a chance in a game it always like last 5 overs or something or your teams 60-8 on a minefield.
But also what i was getting at was to do with shot selection even batting up the order its one of the most important things u can have an amazing technique and eye but with out decent shot selection u will most of the time fail except those rare days when you seem to turn up and you seem to be blazing every shot and everything flying over the ropes. but this is difficult for tail enders because you dont get much time in the middle to practise this.
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Got an 8gb from my broken camcorder will bring that and the tripod if you need it.
sorted then mate :D seen u wednesday.