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Title: Getting Picked for county team
Post by: adam1312 on February 24, 2012, 11:12:26 PM
I have a few questions. First how can I contact the county coaches?
Secondly which is the main part of the question, what can I do to improve how can I train(bowling machine, fitness, technique, bowling) to become good enough and stand out. Also what are the main processes in getting picked for a county (is it trials then if your good enough straight into the team or is it league team then county)
Title: Re: Getting Picked for county team
Post by: kieranl73 on February 24, 2012, 11:25:11 PM
I got put forward by my club coach to attend trials and then they would decide if you are good enough based on these 4 trials...

That was 6 years ago though so may have changed and could also be different for each county!!
Title: Re: Getting Picked for county team
Post by: coverpoint_pro on February 24, 2012, 11:29:01 PM
The trials haven't stopped, usually its getting invited to indoor nets, first then maybe a practice game outside, as you progress and the older you get, your usually picked on your performances throughout league cricket.
How old are you? If your under the age of 16 its still usually trials!
Title: Re: Getting Picked for county team
Post by: legger123 on February 24, 2012, 11:32:09 PM
What county?

I didn't have any trials last year, and managed to bag a couple of games.
Title: Re: Getting Picked for county team
Post by: cheese on February 25, 2012, 07:58:15 AM
I got put forward by my district team (west Dorset) attended 3 trials and was lucky enough to make the squad. Fitness is a big part of it and is where I need to improve the most.
Title: Re: Getting Picked for county team
Post by: Buzz on February 25, 2012, 09:01:01 AM
the easiest way if for your dad to be mates with the county coach.

Failing that you should be nominated by your club or school coaches.

If they don't know who to speak to then go into the county website and find the phone number of the relevant junior coach, contact details are usually there and call them up.
Title: Re: Getting Picked for county team
Post by: gabbers on February 25, 2012, 09:04:46 AM
the easiest way if for your dad to be mates with the county coach.
Spot on buzz!
Title: Re: Getting Picked for county team
Post by: adam1312 on February 25, 2012, 09:58:05 AM
the easiest way if for your dad to be mates with the county coach.
that is true some of the county players I know aren't in my opinion good enough to be county players but have a name that is know in the area for cricket because of their dad
but should I speak to my coach, he used to play county cricket, he played 1st team once and 2nd team a lot at county level.
Title: Re: Getting Picked for county team
Post by: Nickauger on February 25, 2012, 10:10:27 AM
If you're good enough you will get picked! Your coach will put you forward if he thinks you're good enough! Who do you play for, how old are you, and what standard because you might well be setting yourself up for a fall.
Title: Re: Getting Picked for county team
Post by: junter97 on February 25, 2012, 10:10:59 AM
Where I am, there is a course in early winter run by Cheshire coaches, it last (I think) for 10 weeks. If good enough you are then invited onto the next course (advanced) his also lasts around 10 weeks. The best 5 (usually) go on to the excellence course. Then the reaming best (usually 20) go on to the district course. The players on the excellence courses are most likely put on the county squad. The players who are on the district courses, the best 8-10 go on the county district team (north, east, west and south), along with the players from the excellence course who didn't make the county team.
Hope this helps :)
Title: Re: Getting Picked for county team
Post by: ianbuchanan on February 25, 2012, 10:33:53 AM
When I last had trials in 2009 at under 17's for Somerset our club nominated 3 of us to go to a trial of around 60 people in Taunton, and 60 people in Bristol. They then invited 25 out of these 120 back to another trial at Taunton, and the best 16 became the county squad. I made the 2nd trial but fell short of the county squad :(
Title: Re: Getting Picked for county team
Post by: Spanky on February 25, 2012, 10:38:52 AM
Aseveryone else has said normally your club will nominate you for district trials and if you get picked for district team, you may then get asked to attend county trials.

Dependant on your county, sometimes being good enough isn't enough, often it's a case of who you know or who your dad is.
Title: Re: Getting Picked for county team
Post by: Howzat on February 25, 2012, 12:22:58 PM
the easiest way if for your dad to be mates with the county coach.

Failing that you should be nominated by your club or school coaches.

If they don't know who to speak to then go into the county website and find the phone number of the relevant junior coach, contact details are usually there and call them up.
Also an advantage if you go to a school you pay a lot of money for...
Title: Re: Getting Picked for county team
Post by: Buzz on February 25, 2012, 01:04:13 PM
Also an advantage if you go to a school you pay a lot of money for...
absolutely, even better if it has a former pro as a coach!
Title: Re: Getting Picked for county team
Post by: rp27 on February 25, 2012, 01:21:37 PM
absolutely, even better if it has a former pro as a coach!
Can't agree more, everyone in the Warwickshire junior county teams were always private schooled, or bezzies with the county coaches
Title: Re: Getting Picked for county team
Post by: ianbuchanan on February 25, 2012, 01:31:42 PM
Agreed, only 3 people in the 2nd trial i went to were not in private schools.....
Title: Re: Getting Picked for county team
Post by: Howzat on February 25, 2012, 02:51:57 PM
Is Paul Collingwood the only non private school boy in England team in recent times?
Title: Re: Getting Picked for county team
Post by: adam1312 on February 25, 2012, 03:06:13 PM
No flintoff and harmison also
Title: Re: Getting Picked for county team
Post by: gabbers on February 25, 2012, 03:30:23 PM
No flintoff and harmison also
Flintoff went to private school not sure about Harmison. The only definite non private school player I know is ravi!
Title: Re: Getting Picked for county team
Post by: adam1312 on February 25, 2012, 03:46:56 PM
Its something high school he went to but im not sure its private is does sound like one though
But lets not get off topic
Title: Re: Getting Picked for county team
Post by: thecord on February 25, 2012, 03:58:26 PM
Which county are you looking at?
Title: Re: Getting Picked for county team
Post by: adam1312 on February 25, 2012, 04:02:06 PM
durham
Title: Re: Getting Picked for county team
Post by: adam1312 on February 25, 2012, 05:53:08 PM
any more advice?
Title: Re: Getting Picked for county team
Post by: 123* on February 25, 2012, 06:06:19 PM
Who do you play for mate?
Title: Re: Getting Picked for county team
Post by: adam1312 on February 25, 2012, 06:09:54 PM
under 15s, academy (sunday league for progressing juniors through to senior cricket), under 18s, occasionally 2nds
Title: Re: Getting Picked for county team
Post by: adam1312 on February 25, 2012, 06:18:05 PM
When I ask my coach about it what should I say, it may need to be a text if I want to do it soon
Title: Re: Getting Picked for county team
Post by: thecord on February 25, 2012, 06:21:17 PM
It may be that your club secretary is actually the best person to go through. All of the county correspondence for my club goes through me as secretary and that includes nomination forms for county trials
Title: Re: Getting Picked for county team
Post by: adam1312 on February 25, 2012, 06:57:59 PM
At my club it all he's through head coach who is also 15s coach
Title: Re: Getting Picked for county team
Post by: kieranl73 on February 25, 2012, 07:21:11 PM
would it not be too late now?

i know our county side has its final 15 selected...
Title: Re: Getting Picked for county team
Post by: Joe on February 25, 2012, 07:33:42 PM
At my club it all he's through head coach who is also 15s coach
You get a district trial, then if they think you're good enough you'll get a county trial then if they think your good enough you'll get in. If you haven't got a district trial then unless you're really, really good or know a coach well then you are scuppered.
Title: Re: Getting Picked for county team
Post by: Simmy on February 25, 2012, 07:47:52 PM
lad at work is 15.. he's on the england under 16 training program etc

think they have just come back from a tour of india! he goes to normal school!

weather he will make it not sure but hes decent bowler
Title: Re: Getting Picked for county team
Post by: adam1312 on February 25, 2012, 08:20:27 PM
so, I know it sound selfish but Im really only bothered about me getting picked for county but every match I play I WILL do everything to win for the TEAM
Title: Re: Getting Picked for county team
Post by: Mortimer on February 25, 2012, 09:05:20 PM
No flintoff and harmison also

Which schools did they go to?
Title: Re: Getting Picked for county team
Post by: Nickauger on February 25, 2012, 09:54:32 PM
so, I know it sound selfish but Im really only bothered about me getting picked for county but every match I play I WILL do everything to win for the TEAM

I would suggest that at 14/15, if you're wanting to be in the county squad, you should be playing minimum 2's every week. And putting answers like this one are not going to win you any friends on here. It might be worth polishing up on your manners.
Title: Re: Getting Picked for county team
Post by: Burdy on February 25, 2012, 10:08:20 PM
I would suggest that at 14/15, if you're wanting to be in the county squad, you should be playing minimum 2's every week. And putting answers like this one are not going to win you any friends on here. It might be worth polishing up on your manners.

i agree with you on this one. Manners at county level towards coaches Etc will get you a long long way. There is always someone you see and you think, ''my god he is sucking right up to that coach'', but the suck ups have that little more advantage.
In our leagues when i was around that age, you could only get into the county squads if you played for certain league sides. There were a few players in my age group (15-17) at the time who was told to move clubs if you wanted to progress. When the answer was ''no'', we all got letters within 7 days to say ''thanks, but no thanks''.
Title: Re: Getting Picked for county team
Post by: adam1312 on February 25, 2012, 10:29:13 PM
sorry, it was bad manners, but im being single minded at the minuite
Title: Re: Getting Picked for county team
Post by: rp27 on February 26, 2012, 12:40:06 AM
sorry, it was bad manners, but im being single minded at the minuite
Not a very nice trait to have...
Title: Re: Getting Picked for county team
Post by: Simmy on February 26, 2012, 08:22:28 AM
end of day he knows what he wants to do and he is being selfish and wants to chase his dream nothing up with that!

i kick my self for not doing something like this when i was younger,

if i would of pushed my self more who knows i know liam was in the same boat when we where 13-14
Title: Re: Getting Picked for county team
Post by: Johnny on February 26, 2012, 08:30:53 AM
I got into Lincolnshire when I was 17. They paid for us to spend a weekend training at Trent Bridge with all the senior squads. First day went really well for me, but then everyone went out on the beers on the Saturday night. I got carried away and had far too many. Ended up calling the head coach a C U Next Tuesday... And so ended my county career :(
Title: Re: Getting Picked for county team
Post by: 123* on February 26, 2012, 04:59:46 PM
under 15s, academy (sunday league for progressing juniors through to senior cricket), under 18s, occasionally 2nds

I mean what club fella?
Title: Re: Getting Picked for county team
Post by: Nickauger on February 26, 2012, 06:08:58 PM
I mean what club fella?

And what league standard.
Title: Re: Getting Picked for county team
Post by: adam1312 on February 26, 2012, 06:51:13 PM
one below premier
Title: Re: Getting Picked for county team
Post by: 123* on February 26, 2012, 06:57:57 PM
So you play for either: Burnmoor, Boldon, Durham City, Felling or Philadelphia?
Title: Re: Getting Picked for county team
Post by: adam1312 on February 26, 2012, 08:22:38 PM
Who do you play for?
Title: Re: Getting Picked for county team
Post by: Burdy on February 26, 2012, 08:33:42 PM
Who do you play for?

Lol, i dont think he will stalk you Adam if you let on who you play for.
Title: Re: Getting Picked for county team
Post by: 123* on February 26, 2012, 08:37:11 PM
Haha thanks Burdy, I play for Ryhope mate!
Title: Re: Getting Picked for county team
Post by: Nickauger on February 26, 2012, 08:44:54 PM
Sorry mate, you're making it really difficult for everyone to a) give a flying rats ass about your question by being so rude, or b) let any-one give you specific useful information, through not telling us the whole story. Decide what you want and come back to us :)
Title: Re: Getting Picked for county team
Post by: kieranl73 on February 26, 2012, 08:52:17 PM
Are you genuinely good enough to get into a good 1st class county set ups team that has probably already been picked due to time of the year...if not it wouldn't be worth carrying on this topic surely?
Title: Re: Getting Picked for county team
Post by: adam1312 on February 26, 2012, 09:12:56 PM
yes, had trials before, I have improved a lot since then,but club dont get info about them now, so need another  of getting in.
Title: Re: Getting Picked for county team
Post by: kieranl73 on February 26, 2012, 09:15:07 PM
had trials before but didnt get in?

Im not intending to be rude i just mean you will probably have to be exceptional to walk in to the team like you are thinking, they might just say come back next year
Title: Re: Getting Picked for county team
Post by: adam1312 on February 26, 2012, 09:16:56 PM
Im not saying that, Im saying what are the other ways of getting picked for durham, since my club dont get info about the trials.
Does anyone know how I can contact them and get a reply?
Title: Re: Getting Picked for county team
Post by: Nickauger on February 26, 2012, 09:19:40 PM
I would tend to agree with Kieran here mate. I think you're setting yourself up for a massive fall, and huge disappointment. If you didn't get in last time, and you haven't been invited back, then you probably stand little to no chance unless you can speak to the head youth coach direct.

There are no other ways to get picked mate, it's trials or through an EPP programme which you won't be in.
Title: Re: Getting Picked for county team
Post by: adam1312 on February 26, 2012, 09:24:42 PM
Last time was 3 years ago, I have spent that time improving
Title: Re: Getting Picked for county team
Post by: Nickauger on February 26, 2012, 09:26:15 PM
Then you need to get on another one by begging the county coach or cricket development officers. I very much doubt anyone will 'see' you and say 'wow, he needs to be playing county cricket'. Just don't get your hopes up will you because there are probably 100+ better cricketers that also aren't playing county cricket.
Title: Re: Getting Picked for county team
Post by: kieranl73 on February 26, 2012, 09:27:33 PM
That is what i am trying to say^^
Title: Re: Getting Picked for county team
Post by: adam1312 on February 26, 2012, 09:29:32 PM
I very much doubt anyone will 'see' you and say 'wow, he needs to be playing county cricket'.

Why, have you seen me play, how do you know how much I have improved?
Title: Re: Getting Picked for county team
Post by: Johnny on February 26, 2012, 09:29:36 PM
IMHO sounds like you're at the wrong club if you're so far off the county's radar
Title: Re: Getting Picked for county team
Post by: tommo256 on February 26, 2012, 09:32:08 PM
Sorry, but you sound so up your own and cock sure of yourself, that i think going for county and if you fail will knock you back down a peg and realise your not gods gift to cricket
Title: Re: Getting Picked for county team
Post by: thecord on February 26, 2012, 09:32:27 PM
Im not saying that, Im saying what are the other ways of getting picked for durham, since my club dont get info about the trials.
Does anyone know how I can contact them and get a reply?

I've said it before but if you are at any kind of league club they will receive info on trials but your club has either:
A. Not bothered doing anything with the information
B. let the email go to junk
C. Made the decision that they don't have anybody worthy of nominating
Title: Re: Getting Picked for county team
Post by: Tumo on February 26, 2012, 09:33:32 PM
I got into Lincolnshire when I was 17. They paid for us to spend a weekend training at Trent Bridge with all the senior squads. First day went really well for me, but then everyone went out on the beers on the Saturday night. I got carried away and had far too many. Ended up calling the head coach a C U Next Tuesday... And so ended my county career :(
Mark Fell? Don't blame you.
Title: Re: Getting Picked for county team
Post by: Burdy on February 26, 2012, 09:34:22 PM
If you have been playing 'youth' cricket in like youth cup matches and youth league matches and have scored bundles of runs or taken lots of wickets, then there will be someone taking note.

Example - Joe Bloggs has made 500 runs in 10 x under16 matches or taken 40 wickets in 10 x under 16 matches - then trust me someone from the youth set up will take a look or ask for you to participate with them. You can be the most technical player with no flaws in your technique, but this means nothing with no runs or wickets.

At your cricket club you will have a youth officer that will be able to ask Durham to take a look at you as you have been performing out of the ordinary
Title: Re: Getting Picked for county team
Post by: Nickauger on February 26, 2012, 09:34:47 PM
Why, have you seen me play, how do you know how much I have improved?

Because the right people (i.e. coaches and scouts) will have far better things to do than trawl around the 2nd XI and club U15 circuit looking for players that they already have. Unless your coach can recommend you, i doubt anyone else's will, as they will have their own players that they will want to recommend as improving through county will improve their team. Are you hitting 65+ every time you bat/taking 4/5 wickets every time you bowl, because I;m guessing that is what you will need to be doing to be good enough, if you are only playing 2nd's occasionally which suggests you're a) not good enough to play every week, or b) not committed enough. We have players who are 14/15, playing and performing in our 2nds every week who aren't even close to county selection.
Title: Re: Getting Picked for county team
Post by: roco on February 26, 2012, 09:36:59 PM
firstly befor you go for full county try your minor county or district side as more chance and if you impress there you will be put on right path

ive played with and against some very good players who were not in the set ups and some average ones that were but just dont pin all your hopes on as i had trials when 17 but knee blew not long after impressing and knocked me back for a while but bounced back now
Title: Re: Getting Picked for county team
Post by: adam1312 on February 26, 2012, 09:42:37 PM
your own and cock sure of yourself
you believe that

the county players I know dont take 4/5 wickets every week or get 50+ every match, county bowlers get 2-3 wickets most matches and 30+ runs when they play 15s
which is what I have done apart from for 2-3 matches when I was in bad form, whats the difference. everyone gets out of form.
Im not lying

Also I was 2nd highest run scorer for my team, top played county and top wicket taker and had one of the best bowling averages in the league
Title: Re: Getting Picked for county team
Post by: Nickauger on February 26, 2012, 09:43:32 PM
Well then, you don't need any advice from us do you?
Title: Re: Getting Picked for county team
Post by: adam1312 on February 26, 2012, 09:45:58 PM
Its not advice in cricketing ability terms its ways to get trials or something for county cricket I would like.
also how to contact them
Title: Re: Getting Picked for county team
Post by: 123* on February 26, 2012, 09:46:41 PM
I can't comment as I've never seen you play, or maybe I have and I just don't know it? But to get into the Durham set up for ages U15's or U17's is going to be extremely difficult, they currently have an excellent set up there and would take a serious amount of run's or wicket's at club level to get noticed!
Title: Re: Getting Picked for county team
Post by: Nickauger on February 26, 2012, 09:47:44 PM
Its not advice in cricketing ability terms its ways to get trials or something for county cricket I would like.
also how to contact them
Which you have been given, and have ignored!
Title: Re: Getting Picked for county team
Post by: adam1312 on February 26, 2012, 09:49:03 PM
how to contact ???
Title: Re: Getting Picked for county team
Post by: roco on February 26, 2012, 09:49:25 PM
Like I said look up your district as most county's will not respond or give out trials without references etc from coaches they know but easier to get a reply from district or minor county set ups from your league board and is the step below county but upto you if you listen
Title: Re: Getting Picked for county team
Post by: adam1312 on February 26, 2012, 09:50:45 PM
Durham set up for ages U15's or U17's is going to be extremely difficult, they currently have an excellent set up

I have played some of their 15s, some are good but most I have played arent that good
Title: Re: Getting Picked for county team
Post by: Burdy on February 26, 2012, 09:51:08 PM
Would love to see these averages.

Last time i will comment on this thread. Good luck with what you are dreaming for.

P.s, how about another County instead of Durham
Title: Re: Getting Picked for county team
Post by: PedalsMcgrew on February 26, 2012, 09:51:31 PM
you believe that

the county players I know dont take 4/5 wickets every week or get 50+ every match, county bowlers get 2-3 wickets most matches and 30+ runs when they play 15s
which is what I have done apart from for 2-3 matches when I was in bad form, whats the difference. everyone gets out of form.
Im not lying

Also I was 2nd highest run scorer for my team, top played county and top wicket taker and had one of the best bowling averages in the league


Maybe they just think you're a dick?  :D
Title: Re: Getting Picked for county team
Post by: Nickauger on February 26, 2012, 09:52:07 PM
I have played some of their 15s, some are good but most I have played are that good
Then your ego will have no problem fitting in then will it?
Title: Re: Getting Picked for county team
Post by: thecord on February 26, 2012, 09:52:36 PM
how to contact ???


http://www.durhamccc.co.uk/pages/contacts/ (http://www.durhamccc.co.uk/pages/contacts/)
Title: Re: Getting Picked for county team
Post by: 123* on February 26, 2012, 09:53:01 PM
http://durhamcb.play-cricket.com/home/aboutUs.asp
Title: Re: Getting Picked for county team
Post by: adam1312 on February 26, 2012, 09:53:29 PM
[url]http://www.durhamccc.co.uk/pages/contacts/[/url] ([url]http://www.durhamccc.co.uk/pages/contacts/[/url])


thanks
Title: Re: Getting Picked for county team
Post by: thecord on February 26, 2012, 09:54:49 PM
You are welcome, good luck with it
Title: Re: Getting Picked for county team
Post by: Johnny on February 26, 2012, 09:57:04 PM
Mark Fell? Don't blame you.

Yeah, that's right. To be fair, on this occasion it was me being a dick
Title: Re: Getting Picked for county team
Post by: Tumo on February 26, 2012, 09:59:36 PM
Yeah, that's right. To be fair, on this occasion it was me being a dick
Probably had it coming to him anyway. Absolutely ruined our local league by turning it into a monopoly, then thought Bracebridge could make it in the Notts ECB league. Got absolutely annihilated for a season, ran back to ours. Now the club is falling to bits. Karma.
Title: Re: Getting Picked for county team
Post by: adam1312 on February 26, 2012, 10:04:28 PM
I have emailed Durham asking about how to go about getting trials and eventually selected IF YOU ARE GOOD ENOUGH, hopefully will get a response
Title: Re: Getting Picked for county team
Post by: 123* on February 26, 2012, 10:07:02 PM
I don't understand you saying that your not getting a chance if your good enough, all senior league clubs have excellent links with the county bar maybe one but that's not relevant, also the county ran a development course for the best 60 of each age group over the winter, if you weren't in the best 60 then you haven't got a chance! Also if you are this good then you would be playing for the senior league in the inter league games which the county assign a coach too?
Title: Re: Getting Picked for county team
Post by: gabbers on February 26, 2012, 10:12:40 PM
you believe that

the county players I know dont take 4/5 wickets every week or get 50+ every match, county bowlers get 2-3 wickets most matches and 30+ runs when they play 15s
which is what I have done apart from for 2-3 matches when I was in bad form, whats the difference. everyone gets out of form.
Im not lying

Also I was 2nd highest run scorer for my team, top played county and top wicket taker and had one of the best bowling averages in the league
Do you have a playcricket page with all your stats on?  Would you mind posting it. I hope this hasn't come across in a rude way.
Title: Re: Getting Picked for county team
Post by: kieranl73 on February 26, 2012, 10:20:46 PM
Mark Fell? Don't blame you.

Not the best person to call a c**t haha
Title: Re: Getting Picked for county team
Post by: adam1312 on February 26, 2012, 10:24:51 PM
No, it doesn't get updated because it thinks that the team only played 5 matches all season and that I played 3. But since I played every 15s match plus other matches. It is incorrect
Title: Re: Getting Picked for county team
Post by: cricketbadger on February 26, 2012, 11:56:12 PM
shame theres no stats to back up your chat
sound rather confident
mind you so would I if I was best player on my street
Title: Re: Getting Picked for county team
Post by: petehosk on February 27, 2012, 01:05:49 AM
From what you have said in your previous posts, I've done you a nice letter you can copy and send!


Dear Durham people boss person or whoever makes the decisions

My Dad doesn't know you, so you probably won't know me but I am a very good player and would love to play for your little team.
I had trials before but I was 3 years younger and had to go home early because I forgot my packed lunch - this time I promise to bring my A-game and my packed lunch.
I am a good player and am one of the highest scorers/wicket takers in the league! I can't say which league and don't have any offical stats to back up my claim but honesy gov...I am and can provide written confirmation from any member of my family! Alas we do not have a coach or youth officer in my team but ask anyone and they'll tell you how good I am...I have my own kit and everything!!!
Just come and see me play and you'll be well sick........I'm a wicked player!

Cheers mate


Ok - so it's a little sarcastic! But the reason for that is that you have provided no real information about yourself! For people to help you, you need to be open and honest and genuine, and basically you had your chance to confirm who you played for and where you bowled/batted, etc! But you have been very secretive. We have heard so many claims on here, particularly when people want sponsorship.
So if you would genuinely like people to help you, then try being open and honest and you'll be surprised how helpful people can be!!!  8)
Title: Re: Getting Picked for county team
Post by: tushar sehgal on February 27, 2012, 01:56:11 AM
this reminds me of afg_morris? anyone else sceptical?
Title: Re: Getting Picked for county team
Post by: coverpoint_pro on February 27, 2012, 02:20:49 AM
Adam, do you play district or league side cricket?
If the answer is no, then I'm sorry but you won't be up to county standard, even if the answer is yes then you will have been noticed already and deemed
Not good enough by the county coaches! The county does not just have 1 coach, there are usually 6 or 7 who go around trying to pick out the best talent!
From your previous posts about trigger movements and Kevin pietersen kit bags etc, it seems you want to look the part, which is all well and good if you can back it
up!
May i suggest something, instead of spending time on the forum, why don't you practice and try and develop your NATURAL ability instead of mimicking other players.
If you are good enough, you will get spotted, don't go chasing after things! Your 15, there's no rush!
Title: Re: Getting Picked for county team
Post by: Ciaran on February 27, 2012, 03:48:52 AM
you believe that

the county players I know dont take 4/5 wickets every week or get 50+ every match, county bowlers get 2-3 wickets most matches and 30+ runs when they play 15s
which is what I have done apart from for 2-3 matches when I was in bad form, whats the difference. everyone gets out of form.
Im not lying

Also I was 2nd highest run scorer for my team, top played county and top wicket taker and had one of the best bowling averages in the league

If the top is already playing country and your being ignored, your answer is there!
Title: Re: Getting Picked for county team
Post by: Joe on February 27, 2012, 07:14:06 AM
If you're good enough then eventually you'll get in. If you're not in, then you're not good enough. Undiscovered talent is never undiscovered for very long.
Title: Re: Getting Picked for county team
Post by: Buzz on February 27, 2012, 07:43:19 AM
on the talent side...

at 14 Alistair Cook had a ton against his school 1st xl playing as a guest for the MCC.
question 1 - have you scored a ton yet at any level?
if not, then that should be your first target.
score 2 and then the county coaches will look at you.
similar with bowling.
Title: Re: Getting Picked for county team
Post by: Alvaro on February 27, 2012, 09:19:16 AM
If you take 0-100 no coach is going to look at you ;)
Title: Re: Getting Picked for county team
Post by: Simmy on February 27, 2012, 09:21:31 AM
If you take 0-100 no coach is going to look at you ;)

bit unfair it wasnt really possible to get 100 in junior cricket as you had to retire at 50,

i used to play againts bresnan when we where kids and he pretty much got 50 every game and (No Swearing Please) loads of wickets!

wouldnt mind seeing some of his junior cricket stats before he went to yorkshire

Title: Re: Getting Picked for county team
Post by: Buzz on February 27, 2012, 09:25:50 AM
really - I was playing full afternoon games from 13... and all day games from 16 - this whole retiring at 50 to give everyone a game thing is rubbish - even in Adult 2020 cricket in my book!
Title: Re: Getting Picked for county team
Post by: Simmy on February 27, 2012, 09:30:08 AM
yeah dont get me wrong i was playing open age cricket on a sat from 13, but never got 100 till i was 17.

all i could find on tim...

"By 13, Bresnan was in Castleford’s adult second team and gained local notoriety when, in four consecutive matches, he took a wicket with his first ball when opening the bowling.

Another of the club’s old boys, Chris Silverwood, was soon to play for England and Bresnan looked likely to follow him when he was picked for the national Under 15 side, and then became the youngest player to play for Yorkshire in 20 years when he made the first team at 16.""
Title: Re: Getting Picked for county team
Post by: tommo256 on February 27, 2012, 09:52:33 AM
Ive faced Cjris Silverwood, Just saying ha
Title: Re: Getting Picked for county team
Post by: thecord on February 27, 2012, 10:57:16 AM
bit unfair it wasnt really possible to get 100 in junior cricket as you had to retire at 50,

i used to play againts bresnan when we where kids and he pretty much got 50 every game and (No Swearing Please) loads of wickets!

wouldnt mind seeing some of his junior cricket stats before he went to yorkshire

I was lucky enough to sneak a junior 100 in before this rule, would have been very annoyed at having to walk off after 8 or 9 overs on 50!

Also the earlier points about knowing the right people are very true. I played 2 county matches at the age of 12 purely because my school teacher was running the side in the coaches absence that week! 34* and 0-16 from 4 overs was the extent of my county career as I disappeared in to the wilderness of club and school cricket!
Title: Re: Getting Picked for county team
Post by: Johnny on February 27, 2012, 12:07:21 PM
I reckon I must have played against Bresnan, as I used to play against Castleford 2nd XI from the ages of 15-18, and I think he's 2-3 years younger than me
Title: Re: Getting Picked for county team
Post by: adam1312 on February 27, 2012, 01:46:29 PM
50 a few times and 5 wickets quite often
Title: Re: Getting Picked for county team
Post by: petehosk on February 27, 2012, 02:01:01 PM
50 a few times and 5 wickets quite often

You really don't understand!!
Adam - if you'd like people to help you and advise, then let them know who you play for, what standard you play, examples of who you've played well against, scorecards on your better innings, etc!
Title: Re: Getting Picked for county team
Post by: Simmy on February 27, 2012, 02:08:05 PM
I reckon I must have played against Bresnan, as I used to play against Castleford 2nd XI from the ages of 15-18, and I think he's 2-3 years younger than me

maybe mate,

i used to play againts him when he was u17 and i would of been maybe been u15/u13
Title: Re: Getting Picked for county team
Post by: Simmy on February 27, 2012, 02:09:33 PM
50 a few times and 5 wickets quite often

50 a few times?

lol mate when i was under 13 under 15 and under 17's

i probs got about 10 50's a season,

and i am no wear near county standard so it doesnt really mean poop
Title: Re: Getting Picked for county team
Post by: Nickauger on February 27, 2012, 02:13:56 PM
50 a few times?

lol mate when i was under 13 under 15 and under 17's

i probs got about 10 50's a season,

and i am no wear near county standard so it doesnt really mean poop

This had may as well be locked hadn't it. He's obviously full of proverbial and just on here to waste people's time! He's got his answer, there's nothing anyone else can do for him. He also doesn't sound like he's any good so let him fail on his own!
Title: Re: Getting Picked for county team
Post by: Liam-SCCC on February 27, 2012, 02:17:18 PM
When I was at District I thought I was amazing, I hit 42 and 33 opening the batting in our last season, U15, and thought I would get a county trial. Now looking back on it after 3/4 years I was very average! Getting into County isn't be all and end all of playing cricket. My mate was in county when we were younger, he didn't get re-selected around under 14's and now we both play 1st team cricket, at an ok standard, I open the batting and bowl. He will be my opening bowler this year when I take over as captain.

What % of junior county players actually make it as a cricketer? I bet the ones that do will have been in the county set up from a young age, around 11? Of course there will be a few exceptions.

Basically, as long as you enjoy your cricket and improve as you get older, then you will get your chance, maybe not at county but at premier league level. Thats what my hopes are, after junior cricket finished I started in the 2nd team, then worked my way up to 1st team opening bat and now onto first team capatain and got selcted for the District U21 side. As long as I keep working at my cricket then I hope to play premier league cricket in 6/7 years time when I'm good enough
Title: Re: Getting Picked for county team
Post by: Liam-SCCC on February 27, 2012, 02:17:50 PM
Yeah so I rambled a bit then, I'll highlight the important bit!
Title: Re: Getting Picked for county team
Post by: gdb19 on February 27, 2012, 03:28:34 PM
I completely agree with the comments on here, I'm out of touch with the way cricket is organised now but if you have ambitions to play county you really need to be performing in a good standard of senior cricket. Junior cricket is fine but I played with a lot of people in u18's and below who regularly hit a lot if runs and this was the northern league u18's so a pretty good standard - but some didn't do much in senior cricket.

I played senior cricket from 11, and for lancs league u15's and northern league u18's but I was nowhere near a county squad. I think only one of the guys at that age group made it to play first class cricket and even then only briefly.

You really need to be playing premiership standard at about 15 or 16 I reckon to be in with a shout of county.

Title: Re: Getting Picked for county team
Post by: petehosk on February 27, 2012, 03:40:18 PM
I never played cricket as a junior as I was busy with other sports (deprived childhood with no cricket!)
But I mirror what you say about having to play senior as it's a totally different level!! My main sports when I were a wee nipper was martial arts - Judo as a junior and Shoto Kai and Shoto Budo Karate as a senior.
Judo was very different as junior and senior! No strangleholds and arm locks, etc as a junior and very different game!! Didn't do Karate as a junior but helped teach it to juniors and the difference of intensity is on another level (the seniors are far more intense!) Even the best 17 year old black belt was easy pickings, no matter how quick they were! And they used to learn so much more from sparring with myself or another senior than they would ever learn from sparring with other juniors! I'm assuming that it would be the same with cricket - alot of it is mental application and concentration.
 
Title: Re: Getting Picked for county team
Post by: dhackett89 on February 27, 2012, 03:49:38 PM
i completely agree with the majority of comments, a lot is about whether you play for a fashionable club or not. and who you know. I played district cricket under 14 and 15 and scored 2 centuries in 3 games at under 15 yet just missed out on county selection. i didn't play for the right club and probably didnt have the technique against really good bowling yet have always scored big runs against medium pace dobbers. (it didnt help that at 15 i had an awful attitude and thought too much of myself) i now coach junior district sides and i see the same thing happening. You see players who may score runs but as they get older you see they don't have the tools to make it, they just develop more quickly than others.

back to the original point i think the lad in question probably isnt good enough as he seems to have no reason to suggest he is. But at times even those with pretty exceptional stats will come to realise they havent got what i takes as you get older, as the most crucial time for develpment is between about 15 and 18
Title: Re: Getting Picked for county team
Post by: dhackett89 on February 27, 2012, 03:51:37 PM
to add to that i played senior cricket from about 13 and scored a ton at 14 in my seconds then played firsts that season, and as a coach i would look more at how a lot of juniors have performed in senior games as it is generally a testiment to their charecter that they don't let the step up affect them
Title: Re: Getting Picked for county team
Post by: petehosk on February 27, 2012, 03:54:13 PM
Spot on to that!
The step up to a decent standard of senior will test the mindset and atitude of the junior for sure!
Title: Re: Getting Picked for county team
Post by: richthekeeper on February 27, 2012, 03:55:13 PM
i never got near the county side, because i were rubbish ;)
Title: Re: Getting Picked for county team
Post by: Buzz on February 27, 2012, 03:57:30 PM
i never got near the county side, because i were rubbish ;)
I was awesome and got nowhere near my county side !! ;)

Actually I got picked once but didn't end up playing for some reason... I did captain a select public schools XI a couple of times and that was quite fun (except when we got smashed by a touring SA school side!)
Title: Re: Getting Picked for county team
Post by: Burdy on February 27, 2012, 07:58:15 PM
Here Adam. I posted this during last season. Take a look at the scores of batsman 1 & 3. these are the sort of scores that will get you noticed, be it against a poor youth team or good youth team.

http://wanstead.hitscricket.com/scorecard/fixtureID_190943/Boys-Under-16s-v-Buckhurst-Hill-26-Jun-2011.aspx

Title: Re: Getting Picked for county team
Post by: Lions Pride on April 06, 2012, 08:24:02 PM
Sorry but some people have a ridiculous idea of what county standard is. I know someone who is at Lancashire (who are national champions at his age group) who has never hit a 50 for his club, never mind his county, with best figures of 2/10 last season. He barely gets in to his club's 2Xi which not to mention is a very poor standard of 2Xi cricket. You would be surprised.
Title: Re: Getting Picked for county team
Post by: roco on April 06, 2012, 08:30:04 PM
Fully agree there I played against a lad who played Warwickshire u18 or 19 whatever the age group was as I took 20 odd more wickets than him in same league but his dad knew somebody so got in

A few lads that played age group were crap but at least only the decent ones seem to get through to 1stxi
Title: Re: Getting Picked for county team
Post by: ajm90 on April 06, 2012, 08:34:06 PM
you do get some decent players though http://ashtead.play-cricket.com/scoreboard/scorecard.asp?id=11137376 15 year old in the surrey champ premier 200
Title: Re: Getting Picked for county team
Post by: Buzz on April 06, 2012, 08:37:18 PM
I have played with that guy.

some of the surrey "unders" are impressive.
Title: Re: Getting Picked for county team
Post by: ajm90 on April 06, 2012, 08:42:15 PM
I used to play rugby with him and ive played against him and his Dad theyre quite a talented sporting family
Title: Re: Getting Picked for county team
Post by: Bez013 on April 06, 2012, 11:51:08 PM
I don't know what the standard of age group county cricket or how you would go about getting picked. 

What I can tell you relates to hockey, getting to regional level as a junior requires you to be in the right program and you have to be nominated to JRPC trials at the various age groups, if you make it through JRPC trials you get to go to HiPAC u15/u17 or the Futures Cup u16/u18 and from there to the National Age Group squads.

I'm guessing cricket will have a similar set up and if you haven't been nominated I would guess that either means you are not considered good enough or the person who is supposed to communicate this stuff hasn't done it.

If getting to into a county age group is your dream then by all means persue it, by the sounds of it you may need to move to a club with an established history of getting juniors into the county set up, if you do move to one of these clubs then make sure you listen to the coaches, if they tell you that you need to work on something to get noticed then go away and work on it.

Title: Re: Getting Picked for county team
Post by: roco on April 07, 2012, 05:57:50 AM
Having played county u16 hockey for Staffordshire it can come down to what club you play for as only 5/6 out of the squad were not from Cannock it seemed to all us if you were from Cannock you got in if not you had to work harder so not to dissimilar to the cricket round there

But I can't be bitter as before my knee went I was on warickshires radar as had trials for u19 and was asked back but after knee went could not bowl so fell off cricket really for couple of years so I had my shot :( :( :(
Title: Re: Getting Picked for county team
Post by: dhackett89 on April 07, 2012, 09:52:35 AM
exactly the way staffs is but has moved away from cannock to the stoke clubs more nowadays
Title: Re: Getting Picked for county team
Post by: Cumbrian Pete on April 07, 2012, 10:39:25 AM
I played for Cumbria Under 16s in what was then the Texaco County Championship North (a long time ago as I'm now 44!) and I was one of only two players in the team not from St Bees School, which is a private school in West Cumbria.  I felt like an intruder at a private party as the coaches spent all their time with the established members of the team and barely gave me the time of day.  I didn't play too badly but was never asked back.  In all honesty, I wasn't quite good enough to stand out at that level and Cumbria were well and truly hammered by Lancs, Yorks, Northumberland and South of Scotland but I hope that the selection net for County juniors is cast a bit wider these days as some of the private school guys were no better than other guys I played against week in week out, but who never got a chance at County level. 
Title: Re: Getting Picked for county team
Post by: Bez013 on April 08, 2012, 11:02:29 PM
Having played county u16 hockey for Staffordshire it can come down to what club you play for as only 5/6 out of the squad were not from Cannock it seemed to all us if you were from Cannock you got in if not you had to work harder so not to dissimilar to the cricket round there

But I can't be bitter as before my knee went I was on warickshires radar as had trials for u19 and was asked back but after knee went could not bowl so fell off cricket really for couple of years so I had my shot :( :( :(

Are you still playing hockey? Sounds like you are/were pretty good!

I'll be at Cannock in a couple of weeks for the EH Trophy Final, hoping to see Guernsey win it again :) Too old/fat/not good enough to get anywhere near the team now so will spectate with a beer.
Title: Re: Getting Picked for county team
Post by: roco on April 09, 2012, 06:55:39 AM
Semi retired after 17 years of sport 48 weeks of year

Still play a little but well below level I did as to play decent level would mean an hours drive every week plus loads of training so just help out a local side when I can

I miss the Cannock festivals as they were fun but I always ended up playing for Loughborough or Cannock bar staff for some reason rather than my team haha
Title: Re: Getting Picked for county team
Post by: RossViper on April 09, 2012, 09:40:39 PM
Take 50 wickets, and/or score a 1000 runs in what ever your closest ECB prem league is..they'll pick you then.
Title: Re: Getting Picked for county team
Post by: Byo on April 10, 2012, 10:38:05 AM
I'll be at Cannock in a couple of weeks for the EH Trophy Final, hoping to see Guernsey win it again :) Too old/fat/not good enough to get anywhere near the team now so will spectate with a beer.

I am hoping to be playing in the Vets Cup Final against Reading - trying to negotiate with the wife that I can disappear from the planned long weekend!!  :(