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General Cricket => World Cricket => Topic started by: Cedrictoad on February 12, 2014, 09:07:07 AM
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KP got himself a tidy mill...
Take that ECB!
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Ecb recently force retired cricketer
Kp 1.5million dollars
Current ecb players and stars
Bell unsold
Hales unsold
Wright unsold
Bopara unsold
What do the ecb know eh? Lol
Kieswetter was unsold too. As was dilshan, Ross Taylor, Cameron White among a few, yet some ridicolous prices being paid for some For some players both foreign to india(maxwell 1mil again) and Indian players (karthik and yuvraj over 2mil each? Wtf!)
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surprised nobody took cameron white
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only half way though the auction, still time for them to be bought
Again all the coach's are SA and Australian so English players are not the top of the buying list
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surprised nobody took cameron white
He's struggled in the IPL, so much so, that he's dropped himself in games despite being captain
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Surprised by Brett Lee not being bought, he had a decent Big Bash after all!
Edit: Just looked at his actual stats for the tournament - maybe not so much, made for good viewing at least haha!
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Chris Lynn unsold!
Having watched him in big bash and them against England I am highly suprised by this.
Very amusing though, with ecb and English players. "We are behind because we dot. Let our players go to ipl" "ecb should make room from ipl" bla blah blah.
When English players do go, no one wants them.
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How do these prices work in the IPL? Does KP get $1.5m up front and then a wage or does he get this over say a 3 year contract?
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From the looks of it, money offered does not have full relevance to talent and form.
How could we explain Dinesh Kartik getting more than KP :D
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How do these prices work in the IPL? Does KP get $1.5m up front and then a wage or does he get this over say a 3 year contract?
20% upfront, upon arriving at start of IPL.
30% after group stage.
30% after knockout stage.
Final 20% is paid after CLT20, if side qualifies. Otherwise paid after IPL ends.
$1.5m is for one season.
So KP stands to earn $4.5m
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The Indian capped players get more as each side must have 7 homr grown players.
So if you have any hope of winning the IPL or qualifying CLT20, you'd want the better Indian players.
Karthik is a good player in his own conditions.
Yuvraj getting $2,33m is a joke.
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More of a joke is that yuvraj got paid 2m without playing a game in one of the seasons
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More of a joke is that yuvraj got paid 2m without playing a game in one of the seasons
He did have cancer during the season in question, so can't really blame him.
Anyway Yuvraj's pal Kohli promised him a payday and he's delivered in fine style...
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Samit patel unsold. Surprise surprise. all the fuss he made
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There is a huge amount of good talent not being picked up. I see Samit didn't get a bid.
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Too many good players this year and not enough player slots I think
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Samit patel unsold. Surprise surprise. all the fuss he made
The only way he'd have sold is if a franchise messed up and thought he was Indian. His base price of 200k was far to high in the auction.
Jesse Ryder unsold
Vernon philander unsold
Alvaro Peterson unsold
Etc etc
Players can go back in tomorrow's auction with the uncapped players, and as most sides are no where near there quota, some may get a bid tomorrow.
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What surprises me is the Indian players are going unsold. I would have thought the sides would want to bolster their ranks with homegrown talents for cheap.
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The Indian capped players get more as each side must have 7 homr grown players.
So if you have any hope of winning the IPL or qualifying CLT20, you'd want the better Indian players.
Karthik is a good player in his own conditions.
Yuvraj getting $2,33m is a joke.
A lot of Indian players have gone unsold though. Take ex test bowler praveen kumar for one. Do they just have 2months off even though it's there tournament?
Or can Indian players sneak through the back door after the auction ends?
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I doubt they can sneak through if they are part of this auction
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A lot of Indian players have gone unsold though. Take ex test bowler praveen kumar for one. Do they just have 2months off even though it's there tournament?
Or can Indian players sneak through the back door after the auction ends?
Kumar's been injured since last year's IPL and I believe is still injured. Hence no bids.
Think players can be bought after the auction to replace injured players only
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A lot of Indian players have gone unsold though. Take ex test bowler praveen kumar for one. Do they just have 2months off even though it's there tournament?
Or can Indian players sneak through the back door after the auction ends?
Yeah players can be signed outside the window.
Kumar's hardly played in the last 2 years, poor fitness and disciple issues.
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That explains that one then, picked a bad example of an Indian player, lol.
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Also from the looks of it - will Bangalore get to 16 players squad? Looks like they have splurged all their money on Yuvraj :D
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can anyone put themselves forward for auction?
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Shuan Tait unsold - Must be the first IPL tournament he'll not be playing?
Suprised Adam Milne from NZ hasn't been bought either. Think he'll become one of the quickest bowlers in the world
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Brad Hogg, 43, worth a puny!
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i dont see chris gayle on a list
hoping nikita miller gets picked so he can use his py**on bat in full view of the world ;)
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Any unsold player from today's auction goes into tomorrow's auction.
I think reserves get removed or reduced.
So Taylor, Tait, D Hussey etc still in with a shot.
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i dont see chris gayle on a list
hoping nikita miller gets picked so he can use his py**on bat in full view of the world ;)
Chris Gayle was retained by RCB prior to the auction.
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i dont see chris gayle on a list
hoping nikita miller gets picked so he can use his py**on bat in full view of the world ;)
Gayle was retained so isn't in the auction.
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i dont see chris gayle on a list
hoping nikita miller gets picked so he can use his py**on bat in full view of the world ;)
All team could keep atleast 5 players from last years squad. Rcb chose to keep Chris gayle. So he doesn't enter the auction, he stays with rcb.
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Simon jones, jade dernbach unsold!
Random New Zealander Matt Henry bought by csk after coach Ian Fleming had word in the franchise boss ears.
Pays to have a Coach from your homeland!
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I'm talking to myself. But incase people was interested
The IPL will send a list of unsold players from today with the serial numbers to the franchises and the franchises will have to pick the players they want included in the auction. There will be a similar process for the uncapped players, so that we need not go through endless unsolds.by George Binoy 11:14 AM
So should be a better auction tomorrow, hopefully likes of hales and bell can get in fro tomorrow and receive a few cheeky bids. Now the franchisers have chanc to look at players needs vs money etc.
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Simon jones, jade dernbach unsold!
Random New Zealander Matt Henry bought by csk after coach Ian Fleming had word in the franchise boss ears.
Pays to have a Coach from your homeland!
No Dernbach, thought England's t20 specialist would be selected. Who wouldn't want a bowler going at 12rpo+
Shane Warne did that in when he was coach/captain. Bought his mates at a high price. I'm sure they gave him a cut
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is it possible to enter yourself in the auction or do you need to be invited?
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Could make a decent team with the players left.
Taylor
Samules
Jayawardena
D Hussey
Bell
Kieswetter
Botha
Philander
Cummings
Bollinger
M Karthik
How did Rikki Clarke end up in this auction? did he seriously think he would be bought (140k)
Philander might be worth a punt if this IPL is played in SA
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is it possible to enter yourself in the auction or do you need to be invited?
Think you enter yourself in e.g. Rikki clarke
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Who is Matt Henry? Is he related to Justin Green? I can't believe Ross Taylor gets passed up but a nobody gets a deal... this whole IPL auction thing is so strange.
I think any player can nominate themselves and then set their own reserve. This whole two day thing is just so drawn out! It is possible that the auction is more interesting than some of the cricket ha ha
RP Singh got passed up as well.
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Matt Henry is a very sharp fast bowler.
Recently made his ODI debut against India and was all over them.
Dhoni gave him a lot of praise...and hey presto he's now a CSK player!
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is it possible to enter yourself in the auction or do you need to be invited?
You can enter yourself yes. But the auction is set as a long list. I.e everyone who puts there name forward.
This is created into a shortlist by the organisers(this is where I'd get removed from auction)
This is then split into capped players today
Uncapped players(tomorrow)
Uncapped players are joined by non sold capped players, but only enter auction if a franchise has said they may bid on them(this is where's I'd Definately get removed if snuck through first stage)
Rikki Clarke and simon jones both managed to make it to the shortlist, let's see if they make it back in tomorrow?(doubt it)
I hope hales gets a chance, he's better than some of what's been bought so far, plus I think bell would make a decent no.5/6 for someone.
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Rahul Dravid put it correctly - "Surprised with Ross Taylor not being picked up. But when teams are making decisions real-time during auction, would like to sort out their top 4-5 batsmen. So, players coming in later in the order get missed out." Which I guess what happened to Taylor.
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D Hussey must be in this category as well.
He has pedigree in the IPL so it seems strange he got passed up (his BBL was a bit average though).
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No Dernbach, thought England's t20 specialist would be selected. Who wouldn't want a bowler going at 12rpo+
Shane Warne did that in when he was coach/captain. Bought his mates at a high price. I'm sure they gave him a cut
He did win it though...
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Bad day to be a quick bowler; domestic or International...so many regulars not picked...Munaf, Praveen, Pankaj, RP Singh, Lee, Tait, Nannes, McClenaghan etc etc....
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All the fuss about county contracts and IPL, and none of the England guy's apart from KP get selected. Luke Wright seems pretty disgruntled.
Maybe the combination of a poor ashes, t20 and odi series in Australia and SA/Aus coach's the reason why.
Not picking some of the international quicks like Lee, tait, nannes, mcclenaghan, philander, McLaren, Bollinger is a mistake, given half of the IPL is in SA
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Shamelessly stolen from someone on twitter.
"Do they not show the big bash in India?"
Ben dunk top scorer, sold for base price at 3rd time of being actioned.
Chris Lynn, 2nd top sixes hitter and destroyer off England,a old at base price 2nd time through
Craig Simmons,top 6hitter, and two tons in bbl. unsold at 3laks(seemed cheap)
Luke wright, 3rd top scorer, 170sr in big bash, allrounder good fielder. Unsold
Alex hales, ranked second t20 batsmen, bbl was great just under 200 runs but at a 160sr.
All the above on Indians wickets against Indian medium pace bowlers would excel. Yet they seem to have been ignored. Very strange auction. Very strange choices with strange prices.
And a few squads with holes in it.
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The problem that I saw last time was senior folks sitting in the dug out as only 4 foreign players can be selected in the 11.
That's the reason why squads have been trimmed to between 21-24 players mostly - according to Tom Moody on television.
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The English would not have been viable picks due to the fact they can't play the whole tournament. If we are honest, Hales didn't shine with the bat in the BBL or the internationals in Australia really.
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I personally don't think there's harm in having 5 or 6 in your squad. It'll be good to help the young Indians, plus rotation can help. Or if one is out of for or god forbid gets injured!
Say you have gayle open, what's happens if he has to runa one I. The forts game and ping, hamstring gone.
Why not have hales or wright sat on the bench just incase? No one bid on them, so at base price it's a good back up,
Instead they go from gayle, to an Indian that has only opens a few times at school.......
But having said that, it was an entire team selection and it's hard they want to build a team for the tournament.
This team is locked in for a few years now. So they will release they are missing in some areas.
So next years ipl auction will just have a few players in, say about 20/30 and hales/wright will have a better chance being picked up,
If it was a small auction this year, I believe they would have been selected.
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The problem that I saw last time was senior folks sitting in the dug out as only 4 foreign players can be selected in the 11.
That's the reason why squads have been trimmed to between 21-24 players mostly - according to Tom Moody on television.
Spot on. Teams have decided to cut the squad sizes and decided not to pay players to sit on the bench like the previous 6 editions.
1 less team also means that less spots for foreign players and the big teams had spent most of their money. Can't buy players if there is no money left in the budget
Teams have gone with tested players. would argue that hales and wright are poor players of spin, so that's why not selected.
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The English would not have been viable picks due to the fact they can't play the whole tournament.
Not sure that is true apart from Bell. Apart from KP, Hales/Samit have an agreement with Notts that if they are picked up for a certain price they can play. Didn't Bopara and Morgan do similar last year?
For the most part anybody in danger of getting a test place won't be in the auction in the first place ie. Buttler/Morgan
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Nice to see Ross Taylor snapped up by Delhi again.
They've also bagged James Neesham.
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The IPL has very little to do with logic or common sense and I think it shows in the standard of cricket. The Eng t20 and Big Bash are probably of a higher standard, particularly when you look at the home grown players. Even some of the overseas players are poor buys imho but in a non-english coaching setup what can you expect? Even in 2010 when England were t20 world champions nobody except KP/Morgan got a look in.
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The IPL has very little to do with logic or common sense and I think it shows in the standard of cricket. The Eng t20 and Big Bash are probably of a higher standard, particularly when you look at the home grown players. Even some of the overseas players are poor buys imho but in a non-english coaching setup what can you expect? Even in 2010 when England were t20 world champions nobody except KP/Morgan got a look in.
Surprised that you think the English t20 competition is of a higher standard. English t20 teams that were in previous editions of the champions league looked well below the standard of other teams.
Way too many teams in the English t20 means that the standard is pretty poor.
Hardly any international cricketers playing let along England players.
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Surprised that you think the English t20 competition is of a higher standard. English t20 teams that were in previous editions of the champions league looked well below the standard of other teams.
Way too many teams in the English t20 means that the standard is pretty poor.
Hardly any international cricketers playing let along England players.
I think what he was saying is, if you ignore the overseas pros and internationals. The English and aus sides are off a higher standard.
Which I agree.
Problem with cl t20 is the ipl sides right in the contract that they must represent them. So Somerset who had a good tournament, were without pollard who played for Mumbai,
And last cl t20 the Perth scorchers lost six players, not just there two overseas, but 4 Australians to the ipl sides in the tournament. Which outs them on the back foot. And means you can say "India is better because Mumbai win" like you can say in football "Spanish league is high standard cos Barcelona won!"
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Better 'local talent' (questionable) doesn't mean better standards...a team is a team; irrespective of local or international players. English players aren't good enough compared to other international players and hence are not in demand. KP and Eoin Morgan are the only players with international demand. Compared to previous IPL seasons, this season is especially tough for players because of the choice on offer to the franchises. Only the best; or the ones with the X-factor stood a chance.
The only surprise for me was Luke Wright not getting picked..rest never stood a chance.
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I think what he was saying is, if you ignore the overseas pros and internationals. The English and aus sides are off a higher standard.
Which I agree.
Problem with cl t20 is the ipl sides right in the contract that they must represent them. So Somerset who had a good tournament, were without pollard who played for Mumbai,
And last cl t20 the Perth scorchers lost six players, not just there two overseas, but 4 Australians to the ipl sides in the tournament. Which outs them on the back foot. And means you can say "India is better because Mumbai win" like you can say in football "Spanish league is high standard cos Barcelona won!"
Yes the domestic English players might be stronger for certain big counties such as Somerset, Hampshire, Nottinghamshire. But there are a fair share of poor counties such as Glous, Worcestshire, Glamorgan, Derbyshire etc. The competition is only as strong as the weak teams. Too many teams in the English t20 makes it a weaker standard.
The English competition would be far stronger if there are fewer counties playing and more participation from England international players (probably not possible given the schedule)
Not just talking about IPL teams, I would probably rate the NZ t20 competition higher than the English just because the participation of NZ international players and fewer teams.
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Better 'local talent' (questionable) doesn't mean better standards...a team is a team; irrespective of local or international players. English players aren't good enough compared to other international players and hence are not in demand. KP and Eoin Morgan are the only players with international demand. Compared to previous IPL seasons, this season is especially tough for players because of the choice on offer to the franchises. Only the best; or the ones with the X-factor stood a chance.
The only surprise for me was Luke Wright not getting picked..rest never stood a chance.
If there was no quota on Indian players would the make up of the teams have changed? I think so. If the whole idea of the IPL is to be the 'premier' global T20 competition then it is failing.
Imagine if the EPL side could only field 4 non English players... the competition would not be the global phenomenon it is now.
You cannot tell me some 17 year old who has played 2 first class games in India is going to be a better player than Luke Wright, Alex Hales or Craig Simmons?
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A fair few careers have started from people being plucked from T20 obscurity. David Warner and Glenn Maxwell are two examples.
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You cannot tell me some 17 year old who has played 2 first class games in India is going to be a better player than Luke Wright, Alex Hales or Craig Simmons?
It's funny you should mention those 3 names, as they were massive surprises that these 3 were not snapped up!
Hales is still rated as top 3 batsman, Wright has looked top class lately too! And Simmons has been incredible, and some of the most destructive batting I've seen this side of Gayle!
On a different note, does anyone know who which UK TV station will be showing the IPL this season?
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ITV have the rights until 2014.
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If there was no quota on Indian players would the make up of the teams have changed? I think so. If the whole idea of the IPL is to be the 'premier' global T20 competition then it is failing.
Imagine if the EPL side could only field 4 non English players... the competition would not be the global phenomenon it is now.
You cannot tell me some 17 year old who has played 2 first class games in India is going to be a better player than Luke Wright, Alex Hales or Craig Simmons?
Again, its the overall team composition..and the quota is in place to make sure that local talent is nurtured as well...there has to be a right balance. The English players are not competing against the local talent..they are competing against the global talent and falling short.
IPL has become the premier global T20 competition because of the amount of money and exposure involved. If given a choice, a player would opt to play in the IPL instead Eng T20, BBL etc etc..
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Excellent! I am unlikely to have Sky Sports from March until Summer, so if it's on an ITV channel, then happy days! :D
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Theory: Maybe english players were not picked because ECB and BCCI made a behind the scenes deal to ignore english players and that way the county comp would be more interesting?
A lot of Sri lankan's were ignored too, could it be because they were against the proposed ICC changes originally?
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Theory: Maybe english players were not picked because ECB and BCCI made a behind the scenes deal to ignore english players and that way the county comp would be more interesting?
A lot of Sri lankan's were ignored too, could it be because they were against the proposed ICC changes originally?
Sri Lankans availability for this tournament is less than the English, hence there lack of buying.(sangakarra pulled from this auction because of, he knew he'd get a low price if at all, where as now he can enter in 2015 and get a good price!)
But dilshan retired from test cricket to be available for entire tournament, and wasn't bought. Bet he's gutted. (Although his form and injury record in the bbl was bad)
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Blame KP
Maybe KP has all of the IPL owners wives/mistresses/pool boys hostage in his secret KP lair somewhere inside a mountain!
Perfect revenge on all the people who said he was a selfish (No Swearing Please)!
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I have a habit of taking some leave around easter and have seen a fair bit of IPL games. Some of the local talent is awful, particularly in the field and some games are basically overseas v overseas. Not always and their have been some very decent Indian uncapped talent on show. However, having watched a fair bit of Big Bash/Eng t20 I wouldn't pick many of them over Aus/Eng county/state pro's.
Don't even get me started on the rigged Champions League event. If it was remotely based on local players I'd back an Aus State team to win every time. An English team will never get close to winning it without 4 overseas players like their Indian opponents.
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I have a habit of taking some leave around easter and have seen a fair bit of IPL games. Some of the local talent is awful, particularly in the field and some games are basically overseas v overseas. Not always and their have been some very decent Indian uncapped talent on show. However, having watched a fair bit of Big Bash/Eng t20 I wouldn't pick many of them over Aus/Eng county/state pro's.
Don't even get me started on the rigged Champions League event. If it was remotely based on local players I'd back an Aus State team to win every time. An English team will never get close to winning it without 4 overseas players like their Indian opponents.
I would like to add that I have also watched the NZ t20 and Caribbean T20 competitions and the Eng/Aus sides are head and shoulders above the others... anybody seen the SAF comp? The Cobras seem to do well in the Champions League... I am not sure if anyone has watched the Bangladeshi T20 league... maybe even in Bangladesh
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I agree that the local talent in the SA T20 and Aus T20 level is much better...which is why they are the primary hunting grounds for IPL franchises..but saying that the England T20 is at the same level as Aus/SA is just a joke..maybe they look good in isolation as there are no big international stars playing in Eng T20 to compare with.
The local talent in IPL is a mixed bag but there have been quite a few success stories..
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Sky Sports have secured the UK broadcasting rights to the IPL for $13.5 million a year !
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Sky only bid because BT sport were interested
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Sky only bid because BT sport were interested
Sky only bid because they are running out of sport to broadcast...!
Losing the Champions League will be a massive dent for them.
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I'm glad bt didn't win ipl!
Big cricket fan and big f1 fan. Also follow football.
I'm not going. To switch to bt as it doesn't have the cricket/f1 and dont want to be paying for both. So will miss out on football.
But if they had bought the ipl, then I'd have had to find someway to have both!
Got a feeling bt will get f1 once sky's contract runs out too. they've already took wrc off eurosports. And then improved it by showing love stages every day off the rally.
But will they ever be interested in Test cricket and England? Who knows but I think bt sports is the first real challange sky have either had!
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Diversion, but re BT sports.
Depending who your Internet is with you may be able to get BT sports.
I'm with plusnet and last renewal I called saying I was looking elsewhere so I could get BT sports. They threw it in free. I didn't even know they offered it
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Diversion, but re BT sports.
Depending who your Internet is with you may be able to get BT sports.
I'm with plusnet and last renewal I called saying I was looking elsewhere so I could get BT sports. They threw it in free. I didn't even know they offered it
I get free internet and calls from sky for having there package. Doh!
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Looks like sky's coverage starts from 2015. Looks like itv still have it for this year
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Pretty sure BT have said they will stop giving away bt sports free with broadband to pay for the champions league deal. Wont happen just yet but expect that to kick in as soon as they start showing (and paying Uefa for the rights) games
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So some interesting picks for the IPL thus far...
Stokes at 1.6 mil
Mills at 1.4 mil
Little known leggie Rashid from Afghan also been picked up. Been hearing some rave reviews on this kid!
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So some interesting picks for the IPL thus far...
Stokes at 1.6 mil
Mills at 1.4 mil
Little known leggie Rashid from Afghan also been picked up. Been hearing some rave reviews on this kid!
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