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General Cricket => Players => Topic started by: smilley792 on December 15, 2014, 06:08:15 PM
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:-[Not only did he fail on the warm up for the Melbourne stars this morning ( a tame 14)he came off the field off play to find out he has been dropped by the Delhi dare devils for next seasons ipl.
Doh. Struggling for a t20 gig now.
He's not the only one. Most expensive player of 2014 yuvraj also dropped.
Along with hussey pujara and a few others.
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He isn't playing enough crixket to be of any real use.. Needs to come bk and play county stuff
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He isn't playing enough crixket to be of any real use.. Needs to come bk and play county stuff
Agreed.
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He could be really useful at a smaller county, help develop a club etc
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Well he left Sussex. And was onto recently bleeding about still wanting to play fro England. He isn't gonna achieve that buy being dropped from t20 franchises.
So he either finds a club next year, or will dissapear from cricket.
If he fails for Melbourne(or dropped) I half expect him to announce his retirement.
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Well he left Sussex. And was onto recently bleeding about still wanting to play fro England. He isn't gonna achieve that buy being dropped from t20 franchises.
So he either finds a club next year, or will dissapear from cricket.
If he fails for Melbourne(or dropped) I half expect him to announce his retirement.
You wouldn't be surprised but depends on the money train from the West Indies or other tournaments.
One other to throw out there is are Delhi releasing him to get him back cheaper???
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I think he May spring a surprise with what he does I genuinely believe he has plenty to offer because he seems so passionate about the game like recently offering to go into schools and coach off the back of him putting it out there on twitter
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Considering the state of the england one day side I think if he played reqularly he could still do a job for the team if he was allowed back in but it will never happen.
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I think he May spring a surprise with what he does I genuinely believe he has plenty to offer because he seems so passionate about the game like recently offering to go into schools and coach off the back of him putting it out there on twitter
So is chance to shine now paying KP??
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I think he'll get an IPL gig. It seems a common theme in this years IPL - sides cutting the expensive players in the hope they can re-purchase at a much lower price. KP is still box office if he can get into some form and available for the whole IPL, unlike most current internationals.
A stint at a smaller county for most of the season might do him wonders.
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Does him being released mean his contract was up or have they paid up the remainder of his (and others who have had the same news)?
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Pietersen should get a gig for 2015, but all the SL kingpins will be in the 2015 auction after missing out in 2014. I see Aaron Finch was also canned.
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Don't forget he was binned last year, then bought back by the same franchise - it is all about the money for the IPL
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If KP had England tattooed into his heart as well as his arm he would of binned the IPL and all that cash and played for a county in 2014 and 2015-4 day cricket im talking about
His sacking was permanent-who has ever heard of that before? Things change in sport and cricket especially
Pieterson knows full well there could be a change at the top of the Ecb and with that a possible change of policy
Ever seen new management scrap previous policy and start again...new broom slate wiped clean etc etc
I don't work for any opinion polls but would say someone who scores 2000 championship runs and entertains along the way would have supporters on side
Even us England fans who don't like how he behaves think he was sacked without any 'proper reason'
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He has just been released to be rebid and purchaed at a lower price. Yuvraj has been dropped and RCB are reportedly interested to buy him back at a lower price. I am sure KP will get a good bid as he's not playing for England and would be available to play for a longer duration.
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Kp will not be bought back buy Delhi. I'm that confident I shall find a bookie and put money on it. And here's why.
Buy back ability. Just because you can buy someone back doesn't mean you will.
De Villiers, gayle, Kohli, stern, warner, pollard, Dhoni etc. Non of these have been released by the club's. Why? Because they are classed as there stars. The guys you don't want other franchises to get a sniff off purchasing.
Kp is job longer in this ilk. He is an also ran. Poor recent record and a dodgy knee.
Delhi have given him 4 years and the last 2 he's done nothing. And they believe he has had his chance and want to rebuild elsewhere.
He failed last year and had his dodgy knee year before. He's don't nothing in between. So they have moved on.
Only way they'd want him back is if he has a magnificent big bash. Couple of tons 6s galore. But then he may cost more than they originally bought? And no one's gonna want to pay more for a player you released
Will he play IPl. Yes. But he'll be at another franchise and play as a back up with the odd cameo.
Yuvraj is in a worse position. He is Indian. He isn't a limited number foreign international. So he's gonna he gutted to be released.
Granted due to the ridiculous money paid for him. His only ever gonna be cheaper who ever buys him. So maybe rcb will. But again I doubt it.
Finch! Sunrises struggled last year as the had 3 openers. Finch warner and dawhan. They chopped changed. Dropped all season and struggled.
They must have decided dawhan and warner are this year's choice. And with finch being a fforeign international. Why put 2 square pigs in a round hole. When they can release and replace with hopefully a round perfect peg.
Which makes me think. Yuvraj and finch will end up at Delhi. And this is who they will build there team around. A Indian middle order buffer and the world's best t20 player.
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Delhi's a more sporting pitch than Bangalore. So if a slogger like Yuvraj couldn't get runs playing on a batting paradise. There would be little point in Delhi signing him.
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http://www.espncricinfo.com/magazine/content/current/story/824107.html (http://www.espncricinfo.com/magazine/content/current/story/824107.html)
another amazing response by KP!
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Surrey havent renewed his contract and he maybe too expensive for any other with salary caps now in play.
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Pointing the finger at fellow pro's especially those low earners is below the belt. Just when the guy starts to grow on you he shoots himself in the foot.
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nothing this bloke does or says surprises me anymore
some great innings, I wont forget him marmalising the south Africans at headingly but no one is bigger than the game
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Nothing really surprises with KP anymore.
The thing is he is very entertaining as a cricketer and even a commentator during the big bash, shame he has to come out with rubbish like this from time to time
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It's like he's in a perpetual contest with the English Cricket Board/Team to see who can cause the most facepalms from the viewing public.
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Brain to mouth filter is needed with KP. It's a damn shame that someone with that much talent continues to act like a complete bell end. There's just no defending him anymore. After saying that I'd be surprised if he plays any form of cricket in England ever again. The struggling IPL squads and BB teams may try and get him on the cheap and when he turns them away he will be on celebrity big brother and I'm an idiot get me out of here.
Damn shame. The amazing plonker
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Probably 70% of paid cricketers are nowhere near playing for England. Either overseas, Kolpak, decent hard working Pro's or up and upcoming youth. It's not what he is saying that's the problem. It's the fact he is right and many County Chairman don't like it. If you want to be the best you need to play the best, 18 counties isn't the best as far as t20 is concerned. Even the County Championship is dilluted by having many England prospects in Div2.
The argument against KP completely falls to pieces when any county attempts to play in the Champions League. Somerset once made it to the main tournament but it's boys against men. Now if 2 counties were merged, with 9 teams of considerable strength then they would have a chance. To some extent less players would mean better paid players with a Pyramid structure of part time pro's being tested in a revamped minor county championship/t20 below, to keep the full timers hungry.
As I have said before, the county system is out of date and not commercially viable but nobody will admit it.
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Has anyone actually heard the proper interview? I can only see ESPN and the Daily Mail showing this story.
Words can be changed very differently for an article!
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And the word Muppet is taken straight to be talking about the lower paid English professionals.
You could easily read it that its meant about the lower class overseas being employed by the counties on 15-20k, meaning you would get better overseas playing.
Am I trying to think too much of KP here? I just want the best players playing for England!
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KP should be playing for England. Unfortunately his big fat mouth will always Spoil his unquestionable ability
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KP states valid points, but biting the hand that fed him seems a bit rich. If the county system wasn't in place (I'm not saying the structure is right), would KP have ever got the chance to be a pro cricketer? Engage brain, be gracious and make valid points without vindicating others.
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KP left south Africa to play here because he claimed black players were blocking his way. more rubbish as it proved later.
the question is I suppose if he would of stayed in SA would he of played international cricket with smith,kallis,boucher,etc.....
he came here and was picked for England fairly quickly.
we will never know I suppose,but it's only ever been about him,never the team.
i'm sure thee are those on here who think 'manage him and get on with it' but there is a history of difficult players who have played for England and they were accommodated most of the time.
being a mercenary cricketer suits him down to the ground, just don't keep going on about wanting to play for England,the fake tattoos don't mean a thing
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KP fatigue has set in. I just couldn't watch BBL with KP yammering on and on. He was acting like Ponting's little helper in the commentary box. If I could create a cartoon, the dialogue would go like this:
KP: "Puntuh, you are a legend. I like to be your smarmy buddy".
Ponting: "KP, I like you to be my smarmy buddy. Keep complimenting me."
KP: "You are a legend, puntuh".
Ponting: "Yes, I am. Keep going, more."
KP: "If you were a country, I'd be your flag bearer".
Ponting: "Keep going".
KP: "You legend you!"
Ponting: "They treated you badly in England, why don't you do my dirty job and drive the knife a little deeper".
KP: "Nah. I am tired of my book, no more".
Ponting: "Yeah, people are sick of your book, so am I. Heck I am sick of you too. But, I remember all the years of torment by England and want to jab them".
KP: "Nah, I dun wanna".
Ponting: "Na, c'mon. Give me the satisfaction. You ain't playing for them anymore. You got no chance, how about another stab".
KP: "Dude, I want to play for England again, this will ruin my chances and will not help England one bit! I am stupid, I understand but this is cruel".
Ponting: "Hahahhaha. I am doing you a favor and giving you material for your next book. You can say you were bullied by me in the commentary box. Dedicate a whole chapter to me: Bullied By Puntuh! Hahaha"
KP: "You legend you".
Ponting: "I know".
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I can't believe you wrote all that out.
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^ I saw the game when these two occupied my screen yammering away. I wanted to punch the screen. Its etched in my memory!
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KP left south Africa to play here because he claimed black players were blocking his way. more rubbish as it proved later.
the question is I suppose if he would of stayed in SA would he of played international cricket with smith,kallis,boucher,etc.....
he came here and was picked for England fairly quickly.
we will never know I suppose,but it's only ever been about him,never the team.
i'm sure thee are those on here who think 'manage him and get on with it' but there is a history of difficult players who have played for England and they were accommodated most of the time.
being a mercenary cricketer suits him down to the ground, just don't keep going on about wanting to play for England,the fake tattoos don't mean a thing
Pietersen's argument never really held any water. At the time he was trying to break into the Natal first XI, he was a spinner who slogged a few with the bat. Pietersen had a big time hissy when Ghulam Bodi an opener was selected ahead of him.
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Tbh people don't like it but he speaks the truth. Players are getting a living and they are simply not good enough. No one likes telling someone 'hey, you're not good enough see ya' but it needs saying. Our game is currently flooded with low talemted players taking a wage (both small and larger) who really should have been kicked back to amateur cricket.
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Our game is currently flooded with low talemted players taking a wage (both small and larger) who really should have been kicked back to amateur cricket.
And you are able to make this judgement without having seem them play?
KP is an a***hole. Move on.
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And you are able to make this judgement without having seem them play?
KP is an a***hole. Move on.
Spoken like a ecb hack.
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If KP were to play CC Div. 1 this year (he won't), I would not feel confident in backing him to score 1000 runs.
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I'd back him to score 2000
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IF he tried.. He'd score loads in county cricket. They'd struggle to contain him with the lack of bowling around.
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IF he tried.. He'd score loads in county cricket. They'd struggle to contain him with the lack of bowling around.
"If he tried"! :o
What kind of professional sportsman ever goes on to a field and doesn't try?
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I'd back him to score 2000
Yes, but not long ago you had Tymal Mills in your England team.
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"If he tried"! :o
What kind of professional sportsman ever goes on to a field and doesn't try?
Mario ballotelli?
Him and kp would suggest the answer to your questioned bats is troubled mavericks with ego issues
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Yes, but not long ago you had Tymal Mills in your England team.
Stalking much?
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2000 championship runs would speak more loudly (and sensibly) than 2000 tweets.
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Stalking much?
No, not much. Go and buy yourself another bat.
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No, not much. Go and buy yourself another bat.
Oh, er!
(http://i1206.photobucket.com/albums/bb450/CPye061194/8982952C-4F24-4703-A95D-F8B229C29CE9_zpscweoazvx.jpg) (http://s1206.photobucket.com/user/CPye061194/media/8982952C-4F24-4703-A95D-F8B229C29CE9_zpscweoazvx.jpg.html)
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How many runs do you think KP would score in the 2015 championship, WW? (If he, er, 'tried'.)
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(http://i1261.photobucket.com/albums/ii588/olliecricket/841a566a007e397936e197f21d444f7f_zps9bb2ea1c.jpg)
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Remind me...why isn't he playing in the championship this year?
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Remind me...why isn't he playing in the championship this year?
Because it's only January and he was playing in Australia where it's actually the cricket season I think ;)
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Because he probably views it as below him...
I like KP the player but not KP the person if that makes sense?
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Because it's only January and he was playing in Australia where it's actually the cricket season I think ;)
I meant forthcoming season. You know I did?
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Because he probably views it as below him...
I like KP the player but not KP the person if that makes sense?
Yes, it does. But in some ways aren't the two inseperable? I believe he's past his best, and a lot of it is down to his attitude.
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Here's some light entertainment to brighten up people's days.
Enjoy.
Extended highlights of Kevin Pietersen's 177* against Yorkshire at Headi...: http://youtu.be/hqsnqycCUdA (http://youtu.be/hqsnqycCUdA)
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Gotta admit I quite enjoyed watching him do sub-par against the 'undeserving' county bowlers in the T20 blast this year....
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Here's some light entertainment to brighten up people's days.
Enjoy.
Extended highlights of Kevin Pietersen's 177* against Yorkshire at Headi...: [url]http://youtu.be/hqsnqycCUdA[/url] ([url]http://youtu.be/hqsnqycCUdA[/url])
Didn't KP nick off, not walk then go on to get runs, if I am not much mistaken?
If they only had a left arm spinner then KP would have failed.
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Didn't KP nick off, not walk then go on to get runs, if I am not much mistaken?
If they only had a left arm spinner then KP would have failed.
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Apparently so. To be honest the evidence I saw at the time suggested he did. But the umpire didn't give it and no reviews either. Can't remember if he admitted the nick post innings
Still an entertaining watch.
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Gotta admit I quite enjoyed watching him do sub-par against the 'undeserving' county bowlers in the T20 blast this year....
I witnessed his top score of 37.
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More kp news for the lovers and the haters. He loves the media.
English fans probably won't get to see him, as he has committed to a full season for St lucia in the cpl.
That only leaves 3 games in the friends life bore20. So I doubt any county will be willing to sign him.
But never fear, we will get to hear him! Bbc just announced he is to join there TMS commentary team for the foreseeable future.......
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from the world cup 1/4 final stages... so he wont have to commentate on England (arf arf!)
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Hope Swanny doesn't bully him in the commentary box! ;)
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can't wait for that presume Swanny hasn't been dumped for KP!!
t20 cricket is all he's good for now, he's happy being a mercenary cricketer. SA didn't want him, England don't want him anymore, notts,hants,etc etc
Last year we had a tour round Trent Bridge on a stag do, and if there are Notts fans on hear what a great tour round your County Club,the guy told us KP was the most disliked and arrogant cricketer they have ever known at the club.
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If he had an ounce of nous, instead of poor advisers chasing the £$£$ and Piers Morgan as his Rottweiler he could've played in the Championship last year, scored a couple of thousand runs, played the full domestic limited overs and T20 and probably, though public and media pressure, had some of the selectors who sacked him jump or be pushed.
Instead he did exactly what they said he'd do and now he goes around bleating periodically and getting attention-seeking tattoos to say 'look how good I am/was' - I'm sure he could've just sent the selectors a link to his cricinfo stats...
A result of ridiculous talent, not too bright, money-focused, poor advisers and courting celebrity.
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that's spot on.
big runs in the Championship would of made the selectors and top brass look even more silly than the average fan thinks they are...
he was very much liked by our press because he entertained the public,and the press are very powerful in the UK
They would of quickly backed him and put the pressure on an organisation a lot of them dislike...(the ecb)
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Last year we had a tour round Trent Bridge on a stag do, and if there are Notts fans on hear what a great tour round your County Club,the guy told us KP was the most disliked and arrogant cricketer they have ever known at the club.
When I was younger I was coached by a guy (will refrain from naming him) who was apparently one of the people who fell out with him at Notts, and he's an absolute five star codpiece, so can't say I blame KP there!
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Looks like kp's had a massive salary cut in this morning's Ipl auction.
Only 1 bid and going for the base price.
Bopara and Morgan also got picked up
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Looks like kp's had a massive salary cut in this morning's Ipl auction.
Only 1 bid and going for the base price.
Bopara and Morgan also got picked up
All for the same place too. Not sure how Morgan will like that, with KP and Bopara (who is managed by KP's company or something - according to his book) being in his ear?
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What was the base price he went for?
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What was the base price he went for?
According to BBC, £205,000
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2 crore so just over £200k, 4x as much as Kane Williamson and 40k less than this dude : http://www.espncricinfo.com/india/content/player/777537.html (http://www.espncricinfo.com/india/content/player/777537.html)
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Rumours around twitter kirsten wanted him out before last year's ipl was up. And told Delhi him or me.
Only on twitter. No news story can be find or actual quotes to put it back to kirsten. Could be true could be twitter s## stirring.
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2 crore so just over £200k, 4x as much as Kane Williamson and 40k less than this dude : [url]http://www.espncricinfo.com/india/content/player/777537.html[/url] ([url]http://www.espncricinfo.com/india/content/player/777537.html[/url])
Indian players always carry a bit of a premium as they are home grown.
KP has received much more that this in the past hasnt he? Previous two contracts were 1.5m USD each so yeah quite a drop. There is a video on YT from the auction when KP came up and no-one was bidding, quite funny (if you arent KP)
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To be fair to him - he'll still be making an absolute packet from Adidas no doubt!
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Hope KP is back in Australia for big bash. There's performance on the ground but the entertainment value he provided when miked up on the field as well as commentating was fantastic! Flintoff was good as well!
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To be fair to him - he'll still be making an absolute packet from Adidas no doubt!
I imagine it was important for him to get a gig in the Indian market for this reason alone. Can't imagine Adidas are too keen paying him a packet if he doesn't get in the limelight enough. He's probably getting less from them now with no international career to speak of.
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Hope KP is back in Australia for big bash. There's performance on the ground but the entertainment value he provided when miked up on the field as well as commentating was fantastic! Flintoff was good as well!
I heard Freddie described as Australia's favourite Pom during the BBL but stone me, if he's not in Australian I'm A Celebrity Get Me Out Of Here (filmed in Africa)!
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To be fair I'd bite your hand off if you offered me £270,000 to play cricket for 4 weeks!
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Probably wouldn't be as happy when you realised your wage had just been cut by over 75% though :D.
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Have to be in the game to play, a few decent knocks and he'll be up and running. If he doesn't get a gig he'll disappear very quickly I reckon. Seemed to do ok in the BB I with the standard of bowling in the IPL should score some runs.
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"being a (No Swearing Please)" wouldnt hold up in court to get someone exported would it? May start a petition like the Piers Morgan fans haha
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Are IPL deals automatically for a set time or is each one negotiable? They seem to sign people and then ditch them or swathes of people from a team a year later (my guess is with some sort of pay off)
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http://www.theguardian.com/sport/2015/mar/13/kevin-pietersen-commits-county-cricket-england-comeback
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Good on kp. I don't know if I'd turn down the Ipl contract with that sort of money on the table. I hope he scores a shed load & gets back into the team asap.
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KP was fantastic for BB, they miked him up and he did commentary when not playing same for Freddie - it was great, can't even remember their on field performance!!
Radio this week talking KP up for 2015 BB, can't wait.
Today Aust v Scotland they had KP on better than the game.
His Tweet about playing Japan by himself hilarious!
You Poms better get on the Irish😜
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[url]http://www.theguardian.com/sport/2015/mar/13/kevin-pietersen-commits-county-cricket-england-comeback[/url] ([url]http://www.theguardian.com/sport/2015/mar/13/kevin-pietersen-commits-county-cricket-england-comeback[/url])
The guardian's headline seems very positive, the content is less emphatic and the BBC Sports website piece is similar. Now the CWC is over for England he probably represents a welcome diversion.
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All the talk this week has been about moving on and planning for the 2019 world cup, I can't see how bringing KP back works with that. Maybe test cricket is a possibility. All of this should have happened this time last year!
Wonder if he walks away from an IPL deal whether he'd get another one?
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He'll struggle to get back in the test side, the batting seems fairly solid and it would only push someone's development back, although his experience is a valuable asset.
The ODI is where he would give most impetus to. He could spend the next couple of years being s role model and passing his knowledge into the others whilst playing.
Not sure where he would bat though.
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I don't see it happening.
There isn't a slot of the test team.
if the team is cool, trott, ballance bell, root, Ali, butler, stokes, broad, Anderson, plus one.
One day is a shambles so who knows.
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I think I'd leave Ballance out push Bell and Root and up slot Kp in after Root... I can't see the Aussie attack intimidating Kp where as Ballance can be... just an opinion as I'd love to see kp back in the England line uph
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He could spend the next couple of years being s role model
A role model? Crikey!
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A role model? Crikey!
That's what I thought too but if he puts the work in to get back in the team and does. He deserves a bit of recognition of the work he puts in.
He can show the others that determination is a good thing.
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I agree credit where credit is due, which is the problem really because he got no credit for being best of an otherwise bad bunch (of performances) at the last Ashes, so it still comes down to the other stuff. I personally fit into the Vaughan camp where I believe he just needs better management. I can't see this leopard changing his spots. May be he shouldn't. Anyway he will be held back by the caveat that those selected will not only need to have runs to their name but also be 'seen as a positive influence', which is subjective (tho' not if you're looking at the runs column, which what you should be doing in my opinion). Broad disappoints me and to my mind is not a positive influence presently. By the way, why on earth would you admit to nightmares about being injured by bouncers in the middle of a competition?
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no place in the test squad?? What are their avg#s?? KP's is no doubt higher than the current mob! ffs just look at Sangakkara etc, you cna play as long as you want to really. Seems to be desire goes before the body most of the time. ODI wise, he's miles better than ANY of our top order batsmen so walks in, same with T20.
He needs to score LVCC runs though to prove the doubters wrong. I don't want England to nurse kids through, that's what county cricket should be doing. England should simply pick the best xi for each test match, if they are all 35 then so be it, stop running it like a bloody county side where you bring in a 22yr old and 'develop' them.. Let the bloody counties develop them!
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According to bbc Surrey will sign him if he commits to all 3 formats and drops ipl.
Sunrises have said they are happy to release him to do so.
All up to kp now.
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To gain any sort of consideration he'd have to be top run scorer in the county championship really.
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To gain any sort of consideration he'd have to be top run scorer in the county championship really.
surely he only needs to score as many (or more) than a current player?? he has proven ability so as long as he's doing well he's a better bet than cook, robson, balance etc etc Why does he have to do more than anyone else?
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If he's got the attitude of sticking it to the selectors i think he'd score sackfulls of runs.
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Why does he have to do more than anyone else?
Because they jettisoned him for being a disruptive influence? And because we keep hearing he's a much better player than everyone else?