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Title: WT20 Squad
Post by: Woodyspin on February 10, 2016, 09:02:36 AM
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Thoughts?
Title: Re: WT20 Squad
Post by: Alvaro on February 10, 2016, 09:03:58 AM
Woakes is unlucky to miss out to Jordan.

Not sure Dawson is a better spinner than Parry.

Otherwise, as expected?
Title: Re: WT20 Squad
Post by: RoCo Da Pixie on February 10, 2016, 09:04:30 AM
Interesting that Dawson has been given the nod. Has he been doing well for the Lions in the winter?


I personally don't see what Jordan really brings to the team apart from being a decent guy in the slips.
Title: Re: WT20 Squad
Post by: smilley792 on February 10, 2016, 09:05:57 AM
anyone but Jordan!!
Title: Re: WT20 Squad
Post by: Calzehbhoy on February 10, 2016, 09:07:02 AM
No Luke Wright?
Title: Re: WT20 Squad
Post by: Mr_Orange on February 10, 2016, 09:07:16 AM
Jordan's in purely to bowl the Super Over if required! Although he's not in my team.

Roy, Hales, Root, Buttler, Morgan, Stokes, Billings, Ali, Rashid, Willey/Topley, Finn

Billings seems too low in the order but they seem to like him and having Stokes as another seamer balances it. I'd love Vince in there but could only fit him in at the expense of Billings and that is too low, he needs top open ideally. Finn and one of the left armers plus Stokes and 2 spinners seems to be the bowling formula.
Title: Re: WT20 Squad
Post by: 19reading87 on February 10, 2016, 09:07:58 AM
Pretty obvious selection. Dawson in there is a great selection, adds more batting than most top spinners
Title: Re: WT20 Squad
Post by: Alvaro on February 10, 2016, 09:09:03 AM
Interesting that Dawson has been given the nod. Has he been doing well for the Lions in the winter?


I personally don't see what Jordan really brings to the team apart from being a decent guy in the slips.


Dawson's recent matches are here - he's been playng a full role in a relatively successful time in the UAE http://www.espncricinfo.com/england/content/player/211855.html (http://www.espncricinfo.com/england/content/player/211855.html)
Title: Re: WT20 Squad
Post by: liscon12 on February 10, 2016, 09:10:20 AM
The bowling is going to let us down if anything, defending a total will be hard!
Title: Re: WT20 Squad
Post by: WalkingWicket37 on February 10, 2016, 09:11:35 AM
Finally my prediction from about 2009/10 may become a reality!
I said back then, after seeing him as a teenager for Hampshire, that Liam Dawson was England bound!
Title: Re: WT20 Squad
Post by: FattusCattus on February 10, 2016, 09:14:48 AM
Don't these people have proper names?  stupid Twatter!!!!!!!!!!!

Shame about Parry, I think he would've done a decent job, also a shame they couldn't get Malan in, he seems to be coming into a hot streak of form.
Title: Re: WT20 Squad
Post by: northernboy1987 on February 10, 2016, 09:20:31 AM
...............Someones gotta say it...........No KP?

But in all seriousness, looks a good side, shame that Vince looks like just being a back up batsman though as I think he's quality.
Title: Re: WT20 Squad
Post by: edge on February 10, 2016, 09:23:09 AM
How many pies does Jordan have to bowl to get dropped? Ffs.

My guess at a side (don't think they would take Dawson unless he's in with a good shout of playing) would be this - 2 seamers, 2 spinners plus Stokes/Dawson as allrounder, looks a good balance.
Hales
Roy
Root
Morgan
Buttler
Stokes
Dawson
Ali
Rashid
Topley
Finn
Title: Re: WT20 Squad
Post by: Woodyspin on February 10, 2016, 09:23:17 AM
...............Someones gotta say it...........No KP?

But in all seriousness, looks a good side, shame that Vince looks like just being a back up batsman though as I think he's quality.
No Carberry? Oh yeah gone the days... Fresh blood! KP wont be around in 10 years.. These guys will, long term plans.
Title: Re: WT20 Squad
Post by: northernboy1987 on February 10, 2016, 09:25:52 AM
No Carberry? Oh yeah gone the days... Fresh blood! KP wont be around in 10 years.. These guys will, long term plans.
I was being sarcastic, doesn't always come across well in text I suppose!!
Title: Re: WT20 Squad
Post by: Woodyspin on February 10, 2016, 09:30:39 AM
I was being sarcastic, doesn't always come across well in text I suppose!!
Same i was just making the point for those that tale the internet seriously
Title: Re: WT20 Squad
Post by: northernboy1987 on February 10, 2016, 09:33:03 AM
Same i was just making the point for those that tale the internet seriously
Damn this pesky internet. Did anyone see Vaughan calling for KP to be in the squad again? Vaughan was a great player and captain but really grinds my gears as a media figure.

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Title: Re: WT20 Squad
Post by: Alvaro on February 10, 2016, 09:36:00 AM
Vaughan was a bloody lucky captain.

And he was a very good player, but not great. Great at making good deliveries look like jaffas mind you.

He says what the people who pay him want him to say.

The KP ship has sailed. It's one thing murdering grade bowlers in domestic T20 ... ;)
Title: Re: WT20 Squad
Post by: WalkingWicket37 on February 10, 2016, 09:37:00 AM
I think Vaughan likes to say things to get a reaction these days.
I don't think he can honestly believe half the crap he comes out with!
Title: Re: WT20 Squad
Post by: liscon12 on February 10, 2016, 09:37:00 AM
Damn this pesky internet. Did anyone see Vaughan calling for KP to be in the squad again? Vaughan was a great player and captain but really grinds my gears as a media figure.

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I wonder if KP is giving him back handers to keep his name in the media to stir up s**t.
Title: Re: WT20 Squad
Post by: Woodyspin on February 10, 2016, 09:39:25 AM
Damn this pesky internet. Did anyone see Vaughan calling for KP to be in the squad again? Vaughan was a great player and captain but really grinds my gears as a media figure.

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To be fair he ticks the boxes, good form, experienced, match winner. However is also ticks other boxes; Arrogant, Individual, big mouthed... And thats why we love him.

There are plenty of players you can pick from all over the world that should have had more chances but they accept that it wont happen. KP hasnt done this yet
Title: Re: WT20 Squad
Post by: ppccopener on February 10, 2016, 09:41:29 AM
Vaughan was a bloody lucky captain.

And he was a very good player, but not great. Great at making good deliveries look like jaffas mind you.

He says what the people who pay him want him to say.

The KP ship has sailed. It's one thing murdering grade bowlers in domestic T20 ... ;)

he does dine out on the 2005 ashes quite a lot....marvellous thou it was we did have one of the most potent bowling attacks in our history and proper players at the top of their game like tresco,kp and flintoff

and the very underrated Geraint jones(made some good contibutions down the order)

but yes, he loves himself

haha
 :)
Title: Re: WT20 Squad
Post by: northernboy1987 on February 10, 2016, 09:44:45 AM
Vaughan was a bloody lucky captain.

And he was a very good player, but not great. Great at making good deliveries look like jaffas mind you.

He says what the people who pay him want him to say.

The KP ship has sailed. It's one thing murdering grade bowlers in domestic T20 ... ;)

It's the sensationalism that grinds me, like he thinks he's some kind of revelatory oracle, unfurling hitherto unknown cricketing wisdom on the unsuspecting public. "Joe Root can bat" "KP hits the ball a long way" "Ben Stokes is an exciting prospect"
Title: Re: WT20 Squad
Post by: WalkingWicket37 on February 10, 2016, 09:46:25 AM
It's the sensationalism that grinds me, like he thinks he's some kind of revelatory oracle, unfurling hitherto unknown cricketing wisdom on the unsuspecting public. "Joe Root can bat" "KP hits the ball a long way" "Ben Stokes is an exciting prospect"

When you put it that way, he sounds like the Michael Owen of cricket commentary!
Title: Re: WT20 Squad
Post by: Woodyspin on February 10, 2016, 09:49:02 AM
When you put it that way, he sounds like the Michael Owen of cricket commentary!
I think we would probably agree that Nick Knight is the Michael Owen of cricket commentary!
Title: Re: WT20 Squad
Post by: northernboy1987 on February 10, 2016, 09:50:21 AM
When you put it that way, he sounds like the Michael Owen of cricket commentary!

Please don't start busting out the terrible Michael Owen jokes haha "If England win all of their matches they will win this Tournament."
Title: Re: WT20 Squad
Post by: Woodyspin on February 10, 2016, 09:54:49 AM
Please don't start busting out the terrible Michael Owen jokes haha "If England win all of their matches they will win this Tournament."
"When they dont score they hardly ever win" - Michael Owen about Man City
Title: Re: WT20 Squad
Post by: Woodyspin on February 10, 2016, 10:10:45 AM
England’s not selected for World T20 XI not bad either: Wright, Lumb, KP, Taylor, Bopara, Bairstow, Patel, Woakes, Broad, Plunkett, Tredwell
Title: Re: WT20 Squad
Post by: Thesmiff on February 10, 2016, 10:17:15 AM

No Carberry? Oh yeah gone the days... Fresh blood! KP wont be around in 10 years.. These guys will, long term plans.
That's a pet hate of mine from all England teams at major tournaments. We've picked a team that can go forward with long term plans..... You have 2 or 4 years prior for that, pick the best 11 blokes to win the tournament, that's what world cups are for. Winning.
Title: Re: WT20 Squad
Post by: Alvaro on February 10, 2016, 10:24:35 AM
Turns out Bayliss has never seen Dawson play. Who could have pushed for his selection over Parry or Fat Sam? 🤔
Title: Re: WT20 Squad
Post by: WalkingWicket37 on February 10, 2016, 12:33:08 PM
Good to see Kevin Pietersen was being his usual dignified self about selection on social media...

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Title: Re: WT20 Squad
Post by: Alvaro on February 10, 2016, 12:35:16 PM
Aleena is sharp.
Title: Re: WT20 Squad
Post by: northernboy1987 on February 10, 2016, 12:38:34 PM
Good to see Kevin Pietersen was being his usual dignified self about selection on social media...

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Doesn't that just tell you pretty much all you need to know about the bloke.
Title: Re: WT20 Squad
Post by: bk on February 10, 2016, 12:50:36 PM
Vince was just starting in the 1st team when KP was at Hants. Poor of KP to criticise a newly selected player. Suspect Wrighty would have a very different attitude.
Title: Re: WT20 Squad
Post by: ppccopener on February 10, 2016, 12:51:59 PM
Morgan doesn't want him he basically said so

thank god England have moved forward with younger players.

like the look of Aleena thou

 :)
Title: Re: WT20 Squad
Post by: Woodyspin on February 10, 2016, 01:01:14 PM
Well thats just put in to perspective what a utter (inset 4 letter swear word here) he can truely be. Bore off mate! You might have been a good olayer but you're now a has been get over yourself!

Thats really made my blood boil
Title: Re: WT20 Squad
Post by: northernboy1987 on February 10, 2016, 01:07:34 PM
Well thats just put in to perspective what a utter (inset 4 letter swear word here) he can truely be. Bore off mate! You might have been a good olayer but you're now a has been get over yourself!

Thats really made my blood boil

I'm actually far more offended by it than I have any right to be. I can understand wanting to back his mate but why would you slag a promising young player off like that? No need at all. Also wasn't Vince, not Wright, the highest run scorer in the T20 blast last season?
Title: Re: WT20 Squad
Post by: ppccopener on February 10, 2016, 01:15:07 PM
Vince is a good player, I think England will get him in the team somehow this summer, quality T20,one day and 4 day player

Like the post above, you can't imagine Luke Wright wants to see that in the media-whether Wright was picked or not.....

There's a T20 merry go round for KP to play and earn the bucks.....BYE !!
Title: Re: WT20 Squad
Post by: Aussie In England on February 10, 2016, 01:31:18 PM
Well thats just put in to perspective what a utter (inset 4 letter swear word here) he can truely be. Bore off mate! You might have been a good olayer but you're now a has been get over yourself!

Thats really made my blood boil
Kevin Pietersen a has been? England's best match winner ever. And still walks into any England XI in any format.
Title: Re: WT20 Squad
Post by: Kieron_BT on February 10, 2016, 01:31:42 PM
Does make me laugh that the people on here get so wound up by what KP says and then go on to say he's a "has been" etc. If he's a "has been" and has no influence and/or you don't care about him, why get so riled up by his words?

He's not employed by the ECB anymore and knows he has no future with the ECB so has the same right as anyone to say what he thinks whether you agree or not. There will be 100's more on Twitter saying the exact same thing yet you won't be posting about their words, so he clearly has some sort of influence.

The only reason Luke Wright is being so humble on social media is that he knows he's probably the next choice and if an injury arises he could still be picked and doesn't want to burn any bridges.

KP as always split opinion and is doing once again, like always though, we are the only Country that wouldn't be having KP in their squad.

Title: Re: WT20 Squad
Post by: Neon Cricket on February 10, 2016, 01:38:48 PM
KP as always split opinion and is doing once again, like always though, we are the only Country that wouldn't be having KP in their squad.

Precisely, the bloke is clearly just after some media hype however if it were a different nation it'd be a different story.

Would England pick Chris Gayle with his regular antics? Would England have picked David Warner after his punch up? Etc, etc...
Title: Re: WT20 Squad
Post by: Woodyspin on February 10, 2016, 01:39:11 PM
Kevin Pietersen a has been? England's best match winner ever. And still walks into any England XI in any format.
Clearly with the latest squad announcement he doesn't.
Title: Re: WT20 Squad
Post by: ppccopener on February 10, 2016, 01:40:08 PM
Kevin Pietersen a has been? England's best match winner ever. And still walks into any England XI in any format.

I presume you have mis-typed. You cannot possible believe that to be true.Best match winner ever?  How much cricket have you seen?

 :)
Title: Re: WT20 Squad
Post by: smilley792 on February 10, 2016, 01:44:19 PM
Kp may not be in England squad, he may have issues around his ego and his mouth.

But anyone denying he can play cricket, or from what i am seeing, is denying he was any good when in an England shirt needs to take there blinkers off and or get there head tested.

The man did play some awesome cricket in an England shirt.
Title: Re: WT20 Squad
Post by: Woodyspin on February 10, 2016, 01:45:00 PM
Whether or not its media hype, this is the same KP that was begging england to take him back last summer. He is a bitter old man, England might be better with him but it might not bethe right thing to do... Like any omnormal relationship between anyone. No likey no lighty!
Title: Re: WT20 Squad
Post by: Neon Cricket on February 10, 2016, 02:13:11 PM
But it's a world cup, you don't take a team "for the future" to a world cup - you take your best 15 players that are available.

I highly doubt the England footy team will consist of a bunch of U21 players this summer...
Title: Re: WT20 Squad
Post by: northernboy1987 on February 10, 2016, 02:33:08 PM
Can't deny his batting ability and I don't mind that he thinks Wright should have been picked (he may be correct, Wright is in tremendous form) what I took exception to was the putting down of James Vince, as a former teammate and more importantly as a professional sportsman there was no need to comment on Vince's inclusion. To suggest he didn't deserve his place was unprofessional and unnecessary.


Title: Re: WT20 Squad
Post by: WalkingWicket37 on February 11, 2016, 10:24:08 PM
But it's a world cup, you don't take a team "for the future" to a world cup - you take your best 15 players that are available.

I highly doubt the England footy team will consist of a bunch of U21 players this summer...

Maybe they should try that, get the youngsters an extra experience of being a national disappointment even though they never realistically stood a chance.
Title: Re: WT20 Squad
Post by: smilley792 on February 26, 2016, 05:05:41 PM
Finny steve not going to be fit for the World Cup. Plunkett replaces him.


Gutted as he was the only bowler with abit different to others in England. I.e his bounce and look of getting wickets.


Will Plunkett play? Well he didn't in SA so knowing England they'll go with Jordan, woakes topley,l.
Grrr
Title: Re: WT20 Squad
Post by: Woodyspin on February 26, 2016, 07:28:39 PM
Finny steve not going to be fit for the World Cup. Plunkett replaces him.


Gutted as he was the only bowler with abit different to others in England. I.e his bounce and look of getting wickets.


Will Plunkett play? Well he didn't in SA so knowing England they'll go with Jordan, woakes topley,l.
Grrr
Beat me to it
Title: Re: WT20 Squad
Post by: mcgill123 on March 12, 2016, 09:15:34 AM
Is the England v New Zealand warm up being shown live anywhere?.
Title: Re: WT20 Squad
Post by: smilley792 on March 12, 2016, 09:49:50 AM
Can't find it on to but watching comms on cricinfo.


Willey dropped.


Jordan gone for 12 of 1st over!!!! Why do they persist with this guy!

Topley got Guptil in the second over though!
Title: Re: WT20 Squad
Post by: smilley792 on March 12, 2016, 09:57:28 AM
Plunkett replaced Jordan and went for 19..... Williamson tucking into him.


Jordan back on and gone for 14 off this over...... Williamson 44 from 22. New Zealand looking at 250 here!
Title: Re: WT20 Squad
Post by: Sam on March 12, 2016, 10:24:25 AM
Rashid and Ali pulling it back a bit here. Buttler has managed to take a stumping off Rashid! Sky sports app seems to be the most up to date scorecard by the way.
Title: Re: WT20 Squad
Post by: smilley792 on March 12, 2016, 10:33:40 AM
Rashid and Ali pulled it back well.

Ali bowled out for 30

Rashid 3 overs for 12 at 3!! Much better than our pace attack.
Title: Re: WT20 Squad
Post by: northernboy1987 on March 12, 2016, 10:39:51 AM
Rashid and Ali pulled it back well.

Ali bowled out for 30

Rashid 3 overs for 12 at 3!! Much better than our pace attack.

Looking like a smart move sending Rashid to play in the Bash!
Title: Re: WT20 Squad
Post by: mcgill123 on March 12, 2016, 11:04:55 AM
Good recovery by the bowlers after Williansons' start, hard to tell how good the wicket is but they were going at over 10 an over for the first 10 should it should be decent.
Title: Re: WT20 Squad
Post by: bk on March 12, 2016, 11:30:52 AM
Thinking about England's starting XI next week. Pace is much easier to hit in second half of innings than spin. I'd like to see Liam Dawson given a go ahead of Plunkett and Jordan. Bayliss said he was picked after training well in UAE. Offers a different batting option if we lose early wickets and can field anywhere. Reckon he can repeat the Michael Yardy role when we won. 
Title: Re: WT20 Squad
Post by: smilley792 on March 12, 2016, 11:31:27 AM
Rashid and Ali pulling it back a bit here. Buttler has managed to take a stumping off Rashid! Sky sports app seems to be the most up to date scorecard by the way.


Sky sport not working that well. Lol

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Non of batsmen a runs total or Hellers add anywhere near each other
Title: Re: WT20 Squad
Post by: Sam on March 12, 2016, 11:37:12 AM
Haven't noticed that happening too often personally. Better than cricinfo who had be believing Johnson Charles was bowling first change against India the other day for a bit  :D.
Title: Re: WT20 Squad
Post by: smilley792 on March 12, 2016, 11:40:31 AM
Cricinfo has England 38 for none, but hales and Roy on 7 each.



I just want to know the score!!
Title: Re: WT20 Squad
Post by: Sam on March 12, 2016, 11:42:32 AM
Cricinfo has England 38 for none, but hales and Roy on 7 each.



I just want to know the score!!

46/0 off 5, Hales on 10 Roy on 35 
Title: Re: WT20 Squad
Post by: Sam on March 12, 2016, 11:52:42 AM
Roy's removed the doubt on his place with a rapid 50 in the 7th over.
Title: Re: WT20 Squad
Post by: smilley792 on March 12, 2016, 11:53:36 AM
Roys got 50......not hundred percent sure on the accurateness on the info I'm given though


Reckon they will retire in this or just keep going?
Title: Re: WT20 Squad
Post by: Sam on March 12, 2016, 11:55:02 AM
Given theyve agreed to play 11 v 11 I expect they'll just keep going as if it were a fully competitive match.
Title: Re: WT20 Squad
Post by: smilley792 on March 12, 2016, 11:58:08 AM
Given theyve agreed to play 11 v 11 I expect they'll just keep going as if it were a fully competitive match.

He out now anyway. Lol.
Title: Re: WT20 Squad
Post by: smilley792 on March 12, 2016, 12:45:53 PM
England win by 6 wickets. Nice warm up victory. Let's take hat into the tournament please
Title: Re: WT20 Squad
Post by: rickjames on March 12, 2016, 12:46:44 PM
ALL HAIL ROY

But man I cant deal with Chris Jordan
Title: Re: WT20 Squad
Post by: Woodyspin on March 15, 2016, 06:39:15 PM
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KPs view on Vince... Funny that considering his tweet when the squad was announced
Title: Re: WT20 Squad
Post by: smilley792 on March 15, 2016, 06:43:02 PM
Kp said Luke wright should be in t20 squad before Vince.


Kp says Vince should be in the test side.


Two things that have no bearing on each other. Ones test and t20 ability are not the same.
Title: Re: WT20 Squad
Post by: Woodyspin on March 15, 2016, 06:47:09 PM
Kp said Luke wright should be in t20 squad before Vince.


Kp says Vince should be in the test side.


Two things that have no bearing on each other. Ones test and t20 ability are not the same.
"Saw him play three/four shots in the PSL, a pull, a drive and a defensive shot and you can tell he has ability"

Yet he laughed he was picked