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General Cricket => World Cricket => West Indies => Topic started by: Felix Tito on July 21, 2016, 02:50:37 PM
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So this series started today the once imperious boys of the Caribbean and the glamour kids from India.
Literally never seen such a weak Windies side in my life time.
First Test is in Antigua at the Sir Vivian Richards stadium, still a shame that the great Antigua Recreation Ground has been jettisoned.
Anyway Kohli won the toss and batted in a flat looking pitch. Five opted for 5 bowlers but rather surprisingly no place for Jadeja or KL Rahul. Three quicks and two spinners.
Windies go in with only Dev Bishoo as their spinner. Debut for Roston Chase.
India: 1 Shikhar Dhawan, 2 M Vijay, 3 Cheteshwar Pujara, 4 Virat Kohli (capt.), 5 Ajinkya Rahane, 6 Wriddhiman Saha (wk), 7 R Ashwin, 8 Amit Mishra, 9 Ishant Sharma, 10 Mohammed Shami, 11 Umesh Yadav
West Indies: 1 Kraigg Brathwaite, 2 Rajendra Chandrika, 3 Darren Bravo, 4 Marlon Samuels, 5 Jermaine Blackwood, 6 Roston Chase, 7 Carlos Brathwaite, 8 Shane Dowrich (wk), 9 Jason Holder (capt.), 10 Shanon Gabriel, 11 Devendra Bishoo
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Can only see one winner here ! India will outclass the West Indies in all aspects
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Can only see one winner here ! India will outclass the West Indies in all aspects
One sided
No crowd
Doubt many will watch it on tv
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India end the day 302/4.
A masterclass from Indian skipper Virat Kohli who ended the day 143* passing his 12th Test hundred and 3000 Test runs. Some player this boy.
Dhawan registered 84. Vijay, Pujara and Rahane wasted their chances against a poor Windies side.
Dev Bishoo snared 3/108 and Shannon Gabriel bowled quickly on a sluggish pitch.
Interesting to also see Kohli has promoted Ashwin up to #6 and playing him as a proper all rounder.
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From the test match commentary I can only assume you're @Aussie In England in disguise...
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Ashwin has always been more then capable with the bat, no surprise jadeja has not been included I'd select ashwin over jadeja any day he's a magician with the ball.
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Watching Kohli play spin is a treat. He's masterful at dissecting the off side with those elastic wrists of his. Anything on his pads is money for old rope.
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In my opinion I believe kohli plays in a classier way to tendulkar he's great to watch, he's able to play the ball into gaps that you don't think is possible true genius in all formats of the game
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The Indians grinding the Windies into the Antiguan dirt. 404/4 at lunch on day 2. Indian captain Virat Kohli has completed his maiden double century(in both Test&FC) and shows no signs that his appetite has been fulfilled. R Ashwin has passed his 7th Test 50, but was afforded a life by the keeper on 44.
If Kohli gets his ODI beast mode going he could get 300.
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Interesting to also note Kohli's century split.
Only 3 hundreds at home and 9 away from home.
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Interesting to also note Kohli's century split.
Only 3 hundreds at home and 9 away from home.
Sachin was always picked on for batting on Indian roads...
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Sachin was always picked on for batting on Indian roads...
Nor sure I entirely agree with that TBH
Tendulkar had 6 hundreds in Australia, 5 in South Africa, 6 in Sri Lanka(most by a foreign player, 4 in England, 2 in New Zealand. Seems a fair spread
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Let's be honest though against this west Indies team nothing really counts
It's so easy even James Vince could get a hundred!
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Let's be honest though against this west Indies team nothing really counts
It's so easy even James Vince could get a hundred!
Assuming he'd be dropped in the slips off booming drives a few times en route though...
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Nor sure I entirely agree with that TBH
Tendulkar had 6 hundreds in Australia, 5 in South Africa, 6 in Sri Lanka(most by a foreign player, 4 in England, 2 in New Zealand. Seems a fair spread
Stats research like that will have people thinking your gerrysa/Aussie in England!!
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The tale of two Ravi's...
Bopara smashed 3 hundreds against the Windies and was laughed at for simply dipping his bread against a team of also rans. Ashwin hits 3 hundreds against the Windies and is labelled an all rounder.
Funny game is cricket..,
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Let's be honest though against this west Indies team nothing really counts
It's so easy even James Vince could get a hundred!
Must be that same mediocre side England failed to beat ;). Don't recall many 100's in that series
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The tale of two Ravi's...
Bopara smashed 3 hundreds against the Windies and was laughed at for simply dipping his bread against a team of also rans. Ashwin hits 3 hundreds against the Windies and is labelled an all rounder.
Funny game is cricket..,
Ravi Bopara scored 3 hundreds? That's 3 more than I thought he had! How did he manage that?
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Ashwin has always been able to bat he always looks comfortable at the crease
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Why is Brathwaite using gray nics and not his own brand:( :(
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Why is Brathwaite using gray nics and not his own brand:( :(
I appear to have the wrong Brathwaite hahahaha
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Does anyone know what the hell is the deal with the balls used for tests in the West Indies ? Last year when watching the oz tour there I heard they are Dukes , but a second rate or different Dukes to that used in England . These balls just leave such vividly red cherries on the bats it's ridiculous. Players must need a lot of white spirit on windies tours . Otherwise they'd leave the Caribbean, arrive in another country on a new tour , pull out a red stained bat and have the opposition sledge them with 'hey it'll be tough going , you're not batting against the Windies anymore' etc . Just seems a bit weird , but I'll leave it at that , otherwise I'll start a rant about how all tests in all countries should be played with the same ball (and not a Kookaburra) .
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I wish I could have that many cherries on my bat but it doesn't look great, surely there should only be two different balls being used dukes or kookaburra makes things a hell of a lot more easier
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Yeah , universality re test balls doesn't seem too much to ask ? At the moment there's kookaburra , dukes , 2nd rate/windies dukes , s.g . I suppose you could also add kookaburra pink to the list too . That's 4.....or 3 too many .
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Don't India still use SG?
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Yeah I think they might do, couldn't see them using a dukes or kookaburra
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Yeah , universality re test balls doesn't seem too much to ask ? At the moment there's kookaburra , dukes , 2nd rate/windies dukes , s.g . I suppose you could also add kookaburra pink to the list too . That's 4.....or 3 too many .
Yeah , India using the s.g (third ball on the list) still .
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Yeah , India using the s.g (third ball on the list) still .
Fourth ...know my balls but still can't count them ;) :D
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Am slightly confused as to what the issue is with what ball India uses. SG is a home brand and the ball they produce favours their spin bowers eg their strength. Why should they use a Duke ball?
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Aside from balls, good to see Carlos Brathwaite and Dev Bishoo show some grit with the bat. Would've been easy to go out and give their wickets away but the batted sensibly showing their top order how to do it.
Looking forward Windies need to look at the balance of their side.
Chandrika, Blackwood and Chase didn't really offer much. Jason Holder really needs to move up to 6. You can't go into a Test with Gabriel, Bishoo + Carlos Brathwaite and Holder. Windies need to get Miguel Cummings into the side. 5 bowlers are needed.
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For the record India won by an innings and 92 runs. R Ashwin with 7/83.
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Am slightly confused as to what the issue is with what ball India uses. SG is a home brand and the ball they produce favours their spin bowers eg their strength. Why should they use a Duke ball?
India is a mixed combo when using cricket balls. SG is used in test matches while IPL uses Kookaburra regulation cricket balls. Don't know about ODI though ...
England, Australia and India prefer to use local brand names. Probably because of they offer cheaper price or better deals or promote home grown brands.
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Samuels and Carlos showed some resistance. Rest of the WI players fell off the ladder way too fast ...
Hope WI can pick up steam and come back like England in Eng vs Pak series.
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We don't want another one sided series but looks to be going that way after the way the WI batted in the 2nd innings
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Am slightly confused as to what the issue is with what ball India uses. SG is a home brand and the ball they produce favours their spin bowers eg their strength. Why should they use a Duke ball?
No issue with india/s.g or england/dukes etc . Was commenting on the apparent sub standard of the balls used in west indies tests and then commenting that universality of test ball across all nations/series would be good . Basically, anything but a Kookaburra would be good (and that's coming from an Aussie ).
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No issue with india/s.g or england/dukes etc . Was commenting on the apparent sub standard of the balls used in west indies tests and then commenting that universality of test ball across all nations/series would be good . Basically, anything but a Kookaburra would be good (and that's coming from an Aussie ).
I thought the Windies agreed a deal with Duke to use the same ball as England use.
I think the Windies bowlers lack the skill to get the most out of the ball anyway. Shami and Yadav where getting plenty of movement whereas Gabriel aside it was gun barrel straight.
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Second Test match starts in Jamaica today. Both sides make one change each. For the Windies Miguel Cummins makes his Test debut and replaces Carlos Brathwaite. Cummins is being labelled as a genuine fast bowler so should be good to see how he goes. For the India M Vijay is injured and is replaced by KL Rahul. Pitch is a little on the green side. Holder won the toss and elected to bat.
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So the Windies got humiliated in the first Test. They ask for a green pitch to favour their fast bowlers. Then instead of putting India to face some rockets from Gabriel they bat first and get skittles...11/3 already. Stupidest decision Holder could've made...
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The irony when India get two knick's behind in two balls and can't review it! ;)
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This is why we need tiered test cricket
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Ashwin has cracked the WI line up again. Poor Holder .. team falters when batting second so he decided to bat first and they are still struggling.
Why is Carlos Brathwaite not included in this match ???
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I was hoping Holder would put on some fight ... but he too has flopped !
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Good to see these two showing some kind of fight here. Still embarrassing though.
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Truly dreadful from the Windies, wrong decision at the toss but very little skill or heart shown by most of their batsmen. Blackwood and Samuels tried to to save the sinking ship but the damage was already done. The ineptitude at facing R Ashwin is beyond pathetic. An off spinner getting a michelle on a green top(a very good off spinner granted) is ridiculous. KL Rahul looks some player, has a hint of Vijay and Kohli about his batting, made the Windies bowlers pay whenever they missed their marks. Miguel Cummins looked pretty ordinary and was nothing more than military medium...Unless they take early wickets this will be a batting practice session for the Indians
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Most bizarre days cricket I've seen in a long time. India have scored 132 runs off 54 overs. Windies have shown very little interest in taking wickets. Setting in/out fields and just restricting the run scoring. Poor chap Pujara ran himself out and missed out on a big score. KL Rahul seems in no such mood and has reached a career best 150*, it seems highly likely Pujara will be dropped when Vijay returns from injury. Kohli is at the crease as well.
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Funny odd career KL Rahul has thus far produced. 3 scores of 100 and 8 scores under 20(in fact 7 single figure scores). But he's yet to play any matches at home and he's still a young man at 24. Plenty of time to get more consistent.
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When it's not your day(series) nothing goes right for you...Windies take secomd new ball and debutant Miguel Cummins pulls a hammy...
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India eventually declared on 500/9. India's somewhat forgotten star Ajinkya Rahane bagged his 7th Test hundred. He now scored hundreds in England, Australia, New Zealand, Sri Lanka and West Indies(plus he scored 90s in South Africa and Bangladesh). The little man from Mumbai seems to be a batsman for all conditions.
West Indian Roston Chase bagged 5/121, his maiden Test five wicket haul. He bowled very nicely.
India lead by 304 runs
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would actually go as far and say he could well be a better world wide player than Kohli.
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would actually go as far and say he could well be a better world wide player than Kohli.
He's better than Kohli in England ;)
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But so is Nick Compton!
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Good fight back from the West Indies today. It's a shame about that shocking lbw, probably going to cost West Indies the draw.
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Windies have unearthed a star in all rounder Roston Chase. A maiden 5fer and maiden hundred in only his second Test. One of only 4 West Indians to take a michelle and score a century in the same match.
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Such a shame to see the windies go this way, but after sharing a few beers Monday with a lad whos come over from playing in the CPL you can see why, the big names are above the establishment & treat like kings in the Caribbean.
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Windies live to fight another day. 388/6 when Kohli finally accepted the draw. Chase undoubtedly the MoTM. Holder found some form with an unbeaten 64. First time in Windies Test history that 5/6/7/8 have all scored 50+ in the same innings.
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Little off topic but India will play two t20 games in Florida USA against WI. It's scheduled for Aug 27-28. The ground is 30 minutes drive from where I live. Waiting for the ticket sales to open. This will be one mega event specially for usa crowd.
I watched the cpl t20 games last weekend here and got to meet Brandon mcullum, Sammy, faf, Umar Kamal , Shane Watson and a few more. Will post pics.
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Windies have unearthed a star in all rounder Roston Chase. A maiden 5fer and maiden hundred in only his second Test. One of only 4 West Indians to take a michelle and score a century in the same match.
His batting style reminded me of Curtly a bit. All long limbs not quite working in unison. Still, great performance.
Mishra needs a buzz cut or a word with Warnie.
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Third Test match starts in St Lucia today. Jason Holder won the toss and elected to field on a pitch that should be a fair bit faster than the previous two venues.
West Indies make two changes with Chandrika and Bishoo dropped. Leon Johnson comes in to open. And West Indian u19 sensation Alzarri Joseph comes in for his Test debut. Joseph had real pace during the u19 World Cup.
India make three changes. Pujara, Mishra and Yadav axed. Rohit Sharma, Ravi Jadeja and Bhuvi Kumar all get a game. Pujara was pretty poor so probably deserved to be axed, but I'm perplexed as to why Rohit gets a game but M Vijay(India's best opener) is still carrying the water...Mishra was dreadful and I think Jadeja will prove a better bowler. Yadav is unlucky to miss out. If I'm honest I'm not sure why Ishant gets picked. He's awful.
West Indies: 1 Kraigg Brathwaite, 2 Leon Johnson, 3 Darren Bravo, 4 Marlon Samuels, 5 Jermaine Blackwood, 6 Roston Chase, 7 Shane Dowrich (wk), 8 Jason Holder (capt), 9 Alzarri Joseph, 10 Miguel Cummins, 11 Shannon Gabriel
India: 1 KL Rahul 2 Shikhar Dhawan, 3 Rohit Sharma, 4 Virat Kohli, 5 Ajinkya Rahane, 6 R Ashwin, 7 Wriddhiman Saha, 8 Ravindra Jadeja, 9 Bhuvneshwar Kumar, 10 Mohammed Shami, 11 Ishant Sharma
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Windies getting into the Indians early doors. Gabriel bagged Dhawan. And then Alzarri Joseph bounced out Virat Kohli for his maiden Test wicket.
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Thats one to tell the grandkids about for sure
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A day of Test cricket for the old timers in St Lucia. In the modern day after a full 90 overs India only scored 231/5, a run rate of around 2.5. Starting to wonder the quaity of cricket ball used in this series. Soon as the ball gets 40 overs old, it seems nearly impossible to hit it off the square. KL Rahul continued his good form with a speedy even 50. But the rest of the top order was blown away. R Ashwin 75* and Saha 46* helped India recover from 126/5 to 234/5 at stumps. Windies will be cursing getting the wicket of Ashwin off a back foot no ball by Gabriel. With Jadeja and Kumar still to bat, the India might be looking for another 100-125 runs.
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I'm starting to think the WICB have requested pitches where results are damn near impossible to achieve. The Indians posted 353. Ashwin with his fourth Test century and second of the series. Saha also brought up his maiden Test century. Alzarri Joseph bagged 3 on debut and Miguel Cummins finally bagged his first wickets as Test level, he also ended up with 3 victims. West Indies closed on 107/1 off 47 overs. On the second day the pitch just seemed to die. No pace. Difficult to score runs on.
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Bucketing down in St Lucia...can't see any positive result in the third test...
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Quick update on this one. Day 3 was a total washout. The match, as I presumed as heading for a dead certain draw. But boy was i wrong. Bhuvneshwar Kumar produced a sensational spell of swing bowling with the second new ball to destroy the West Indian innings. Windies collapsed from 129/1 to 225 all out. Kumar finished with 5/33, could've had 6 if India didn't drop a few dollies. India gained a lead of 128 and promptly came out to score quick runs up setup the game for a day 5 declaration.
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Rahane is seriously a master of all conditions. Averaging over 50 is away Test matches. Considering he's only played 5 matches at home thus far he should get his career average above 50 sooner rather than later
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So India's quest for the number 1 ranking is a foot. West Indies have been set 347 runs to win off 87 overs. Miguel Cummins has enjoyed his second Test a lot more than his Test debut. He followed up his 3/54 in the first innings with a career best 6/48. Granted a few charity wickets but the lad bowled nicely.
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All done .. Game over ! 107 all out on the last day and India have gone 2-0 up in the series.
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Great effort to win this test - 1 day washed out and West Indies 1 down going into day 4
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Truly a remarkable victory for Kohli and his troops. Going someway to erase the errors from the second Test. Kumar was obviously the catalyst behind the opportunity to press for victory. But the return of Shami has added an extra dimension to the Indian attack. Shami adds pace and hostility to their attack. They've got a lot of bases covered with their bowling. Kumar = swing. Shami = pace. Ashwin = all rounder/master spin bowler. Jadeja = superb spinner. Only real area of concern is Ishant as he's hot and cold. I think the lad with the weird action Bumrah coud take Ishant's place.
Interesting to note that it's the first time India have won more than one match in a series in the Caribbean. According to Ian Bishop weather in Trinidad is poor, so India might need another inspired bowling effort if they want that number 1 rank.
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Going for a win is the best option, not for ranking per se but to the carry the momentum into the home series coming up against England !
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Fourth and final Test match had started at the Queen's Park Oval in Trinidad.
Both sides make changes. For West Indies Dev Bishoo comes into for Alzarri Joseph on s pitch that's expected to turn big. For India a couple of changes M Vijay(rightfully so) regains his place ahead of Shikhar Dhawan. The second change is a bit weird. Ravi Jadeja has been left out in favour of the misfiring Pujara.
Jason Holder won the toss and decided to bat.
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I guess rain is going to continue playing spoil sport for this test match !
Dhawan deserves to be dropped. Rahul, Kohli, Rahane, Saha, Ashwin - all these guys have scored centuries. Dhawan is still stuck scoring odd 50's here and there. WI series was a very good chance for him to establish a place in squad. At this point India's best opening pair would be Rahul - M Vijay.
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Incredible hitting by the West Indies in the power play. Smashing the Indians all over the shop! The lads from the Caribbean love this T20 stuff!
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78/0 after 6 overs from the Windies. Johnson Charles has hammered 51 off 21 balls. No Chris Gayle today, not making any difference
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This is something else
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126/1 after 9.3 overs. Charles goes for 79 off a mere 33 balls. Could've broken Levi's record for fastest T20i...alas it wasn't to be. Still stupendous hitting.
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This is more like a home run derby rather than a t20! Raining 6s
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This over.....
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164-1 off 11. Binny just got carted for 32 in one over. 5 massive 6s
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After all that carnage Ashwin bowls the 12th over and goes for 4 singles. Get on with it!
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I like how the BBCI made it mandatory that this was a 10am start so they could get primetime TV figures in India. 1.2 billion people have probably turned off by now...
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I like how the BBCI made it mandatory that this was a 10am start so they could get primetime TV figures in India. 1.2 billion people have probably turned off by now...
I doubt they'd turn off because they are getting slaughtered. Most Indians I've meet love the West Indies as well.
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Richard Levi mops his brow and sighs in relief. His record lives to fight another day.
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An incredible maiden international century by Evin Lewis. 100 off 48 balls. Stunning.
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261 for the World Record...
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245/6 for the West Indies. After the carnage by Charles and Lewis India can breath relatively easier now. Decent 'fight back' in the final 10 overs.
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This game has gone completely mental ... India is chasing it now with 200 onboard in 16 overs !!
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India hunting this monumental target down!
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KL Rahul blasts a 46 ball ton!
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What an absolutely mental game of cricket
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8 runs needed in one over ...
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2 runs needed in 1 ball ....
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Dhoni's a saffer.
Someone get him an oxygen tank asap
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WI win by one run ... proves who is the king of T20
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Oh my God
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West Indies win by 1 run, INCREDIBLE ! 32 sixes in this match...the Yanks must be confused with so many home runs in one match! All joking aside if this doesn't get the Americans loving cricket nothing ever will.
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So after yesterday's most incredible T20i match ever, today saw the total opposite. Bizarrely the second t20 was delayed by 'a technical issue' which wasn't actually cleared up even after the match. West Indies limped to a meagre 143 all out. A vastly improved bowling effect by the Indians. Ashwin and Mishra had in on the Windies. Only the 6 6s today for the Windies...in reply India where 15/0 when the heavens opened. And that was all she wrote.
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Match broadcast had some issues.
So someone decided to not loose money on adv revenue and India lost the match because of that.
What if broadcast stopped in the middle of game. Will they stop the match then?
I was at the ground and saw fixes being done to some camera setup. They did need a high climbing machine to reach all the way up.
From match perspective indian bowlers bowled really well, more Yorker , full length delivers than short pitch stuff.
Amit mishra also contributed instead of Stuart binny (not sure why he is in the team).