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Equipment => Bats => Topic started by: Jaffa on May 22, 2017, 09:10:51 AM
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Found this
(http://i1290.photobucket.com/albums/b540/busav8/IMG_2098_zpsoozvlbdn.jpg) (http://s1290.photobucket.com/user/busav8/media/IMG_2098_zpsoozvlbdn.jpg.html)
I thought they were reducing the physical size of bats.
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They are, some were started before it was made official.
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Not sure if you watched GCCC review on the Atomic but it's not the shape will change slightly.
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I hope it has a better toe than the XP-80!
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I hope it has a better toe than the XP-80!
it seems like it has extended toe.
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Bugger those dang beaurocrats and their 'wa, wa, wa , bats are too big , wa, wa, wa' bologna ! This Velocity would have been a nice addition to next seasons range .
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I hope it has a better toe than the XP-80!
Post the pics of toe damage you have done ;)
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I hope it has a better toe than the XP-80!
I messaged the owner of the bat, who also owns a XP80. He says the XL 1500 toe is thicker that the XP 80 1500 he owns. Outside of this he says it is the same shape.
I think the edges are slightly smaller overall and that wood is now in the toe. That said if you own a XP80 I would not trade up to this.
As already stated the shape may change and is not due for official release until July.
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Owner sent me these additional photos
(http://i1156.photobucket.com/albums/p570/marcinadelaide/18386688_1792186701095000_689645370_n_zpswrtrtvgm.jpg) (http://s1156.photobucket.com/user/marcinadelaide/media/18386688_1792186701095000_689645370_n_zpswrtrtvgm.jpg.html)
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[URL=http://s1156.photobucket.com/user/marcinadelaide/media/18426705_1793155537664783_40096262_o_zpsz1sffq2w.jpg.html](http://i1156.photobucket.com/albums/p570/marcinadelaide/18426705_1793155537664783_40096262_o_zpsz1sffq2w.jpg) (http://s1156.photobucket.com/user/marcinadelaide/media/18452323_1793155594331444_1737039208_o_zpsu8qmyn6j.jpg.html)
No doubt the next pic is the money shot for some of you. Bat weight is 2.8 60 mm spine 24mm toe
(http://i1156.photobucket.com/albums/p570/marcinadelaide/18452323_1793155594331444_1737039208_o_zpsu8qmyn6j.jpg) (http://s1156.photobucket.com/user/marcinadelaide/media/18425824_1792186694428334_1062202508_n_zpsjqdcv2mq.jpg.html)
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That atomic looks like my perfect bat
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Nice spread of wood for the weight
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The owner was selling it for cheap around $450 AUD.
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It's a bargain to be honest, looks Aussie made.
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It's a bargain to be honest, looks Aussie made.
Out of curiosity how can you tell it's Aus made?
I don't suppose that automatically means Stuart Kranzbuhler made?
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looks like the A is stamped in rather than a sticker, they will have an aussie made sticker on top of handle as well. No not necessarily made by Stu.
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Anyone can correct me and add to this...
Melbourne made bats have a A for A grade willow on the back of the bat near the rh side of toe and one stamp on the shoulder to indicate year of production. 2016 was T, so it should have a U the 2017 season unless actually made last year.
Indian made bats have a stamp on each shoulder. Not sure if the Letter indicates the same year.
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A is not for the grade of willow, it's the confirmation stamp that bat can be used in all levels of cricket refering to MCC law 6.
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Spot on skip , the A stamp explanation is correct , the T stamp is correct as 2017 & yes U indicates 2018 bats.
An SS in the shoulder stands for a substandard blade , & as for a stu personally made , he can tell his own craftmanship from other custom made examples , secret telltale marks that only he knows.
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What are peoples experiences with ordering a bat from Aus? Ok you may not have to pay the Aus tax but what about the postage and import duty?
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@Aussiecollector are you Stu? :o
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What are peoples experiences with ordering a bat from Aus? Ok you may not have to pay the Aus tax but what about the postage and import duty?
I purchased a XP70 from Kingsgrove in OZ. The customer Service was great. The bats on the webpage were advertised as 2.8 to 2.9, on the order form I asked for the lightest bat with the best straight grain. Bat came in at 2.7 and looks great. The bat arrived in the UK after two days, then took a week in customs, plus a £58 import TAX.
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Spot on skip , the A stamp explanation is correct , the T stamp is correct as 2017 & yes U indicates 2018 bats.
An SS in the shoulder stands for a substandard blade , & as for a stu personally made , he can tell his own craftmanship from other custom made examples , secret telltale marks that only he knows.
I have a doubt the shoulder stamps mean something else. Of the 3 bats below, the first 2 are recent purchases from Australia and the third, slightly older and from India. So I doubt "U" means 2018 bats.
And perhaps someone can tell what "TU" stands for.
(http://i1296.photobucket.com/albums/ag4/avkrish/2b3cc182-b0df-4851-a121-aeaf83dc3db7_zpsfutnnnny.jpg)
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Correct , bats made which were surplus to 2017 shop orders , held over for next season , & if requested were stickered up as either 2017 or 2018 range.
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good to see this bat I like the design of all over bats
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Xp80 30mm edge 18mm toe & as most of you know a very pronounced spine & sweet spot , the velocity xl has a smaller 25mm edge but a larger 21mm toe & still an 80mm spine , the sweet spot is different being a lot larger & longer.
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Xp80 30mm edge 18mm toe & as most of you know a very pronounced spine & sweet spot , the velocity xl has a smaller 25mm edge but a larger 21mm toe & still an 80mm spine , the sweet spot is different being a lot larger & longer.
Thanks for these specs. Excellent to have you clarify this.
Yep I was mucking around with side on shots and noticed these differences. I had concerns about the toe last year when I knocked a XP80. Looks like we reset the doomsday clock for big bats for another 12 months.
Out of interest @Aussiecollector do you have any details on the GN Signature? Is it the successor to the 50 Plus?
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@sarg as soon as i get 1 will let you know , correct with the replacement thoughts , popularity will determine numbers , last of the big bats for sure.
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Thanks for these specs. Excellent to have you clarify this.
Yep I was mucking around with side on shots and noticed these differences. I had concerns about the toe last year when I knocked a XP80. Looks like we reset the doomsday clock for big bats for another 12 months.
Out of interest @Aussiecollector do you have any details on the GN Signature? Is it the successor to the 50 Plus?
I have been told that the GN Signature will be in compliance with the new MCC regulations. Same color scheme as the 50+, but smaller in size.
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Good to hear :D
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It does make me laugh to hear people worrying about an 18mm toe. Balls haven't got any harder, and yet bats from years back had slim toes (15mm in some cases) and didn't suffer particularly. As long as the toe is shaped properly, it's really not something to worry about overly.
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^^^amen^^^
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It does make me laugh to hear people worrying about an 18mm toe. Balls haven't got any harder, and yet bats from years back had slim toes (15mm in some cases) and didn't suffer particularly. As long as the toe is shaped properly, it's really not something to worry about overly.
I'm not an expert but we do have the odd complaint of the oppo using rocks and aren't bats drier so then more likely to crack?
Also don't forget the mallets getting harder making knocking in more tricky.
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Also don't forget the mallets getting harder making knocking in more tricky.
:D
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Mallets getting harder.... now I've heard everything. :D
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Lol one of my mallets is allegedly a bat breaker mallet. Seriously.
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You know what they say about small toes.... ;)
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You know what they say about small toes.... ;)
Fatter middles?
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You know what they say about small toes.... ;)
Maybe Trump can answer that for us all ?
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Here are a few more pics xp80 2000 vs Velocity XL2000
(http://i1156.photobucket.com/albums/p570/marcinadelaide/AFE6CA80-B04F-41A1-8652-AB16E5B81AD0_zps8svwzzie.jpg) (http://s1156.photobucket.com/user/marcinadelaide/media/AFE6CA80-B04F-41A1-8652-AB16E5B81AD0_zps8svwzzie.jpg.html)
(http://i1156.photobucket.com/albums/p570/marcinadelaide/DF07768C-3459-4FC6-B7AC-5064ABBB8680_zpsu46uuukh.jpg) (http://s1156.photobucket.com/user/marcinadelaide/media/DF07768C-3459-4FC6-B7AC-5064ABBB8680_zpsu46uuukh.jpg.html)
Predator 1300
(http://i1156.photobucket.com/albums/p570/marcinadelaide/C58D2B73-22A5-42A8-A173-A908FB0E4CB5_zpsm5rxal1f.jpg) (http://s1156.photobucket.com/user/marcinadelaide/media/C58D2B73-22A5-42A8-A173-A908FB0E4CB5_zpsm5rxal1f.jpg.html)
(http://i1156.photobucket.com/albums/p570/marcinadelaide/986276FD-5331-4797-B1E6-8D3D260F5980_zpstur5xylh.jpg) (http://s1156.photobucket.com/user/marcinadelaide/media/986276FD-5331-4797-B1E6-8D3D260F5980_zpstur5xylh.jpg.html)
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That Predator is lovely
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Here are a few more pics xp80 2000 vs Velocity XL2000
Predator 1300
Very nice collection of GN bats! :D
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Here are a few more pics xp80 2000 vs Velocity XL2000
Does this Velocity XL 2000 have a higher spine than the xp80?
Where are you sourcing this Velocity from?
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Does this Velocity XL 2000 have a higher spine than the xp80?
Where are you sourcing this Velocity from?
Just got photos to share. Bats are a 1000km from me. People lots of photos with me these days. Predator is special orders only atm im told. General info on the bats is already in the thread that others have provided.
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I will break my oath for an XL 2000 and another Warner.
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@InternalTraining & @sarg got both the new warner & velocity xl2000 , fire away with the questions ????
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@InternalTraining & @sarg got both the new warner & velocity xl2000 , fire away with the questions ????
How has the new Warner changed @Aussiecollector?? I've got an XP80 & 50+, would love a hybrid of the two
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Fatter & lighter , better balanced , just under 2lb 12oz , 52mm edge , spine height 72mm , square toe 22mm , less concaving into the toe area & 535mm in blade length , handle very similar with a slightly bigger knob @FattusCattus will love that , my other kabooms are 550mm blade length , each is different , weights & balance vary as well , no two are the same , this latest version is the best , very special , one of an initial exact spec , if the shop stock are the same you are in for an experience , get in early to your GN store to have a choice.
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@InternalTraining & @sarg got both the new warner & velocity xl2000 , fire away with the questions ????
I seriously have neither. Just pics of the Atomic, velocity and Predator.
Knocking a Legend for someone though, so lifes good.
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@sarg sorry buddy , the post should have said " I " have both , happy to answer questions on either bat , really enjoy your facebook page info & feedback , especially on bats not commonly sold here in aus
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I bought the Predator 1300 a week orso ago. Weighs 2.11 with a spiral grip. Similar pressing to a B3: could barely dent it with my Lignum Vitae mallet but it pings unreal. Bought it last Sat, used it on Sunday and hit the first ball i faced for 90 meter 6...
The spine isnt as high as an XP80 but the edge is bigger. Bit of a combination of both. Measured the width of the face though and its only 104mm....
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(http://i514.photobucket.com/albums/t349/mark208/20170604_192150_zpspp01cb9r.jpg) (http://s514.photobucket.com/user/mark208/media/20170604_192150_zpspp01cb9r.jpg.html)
Comparison between my Warner and my Predator
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Yep best of both worlds , enjoy.
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I bought the Predator 1300 a week orso ago. Weighs 2.11 with a spiral grip. Similar pressing to a B3: could barely dent it with my Lignum Vitae mallet but it pings unreal. Bought it last Sat, used it on Sunday and hit the first ball i faced for 90 meter 6...
The spine isnt as high as an XP80 but the edge is bigger. Bit of a combination of both. Measured the width of the face though and its only 104mm....
104mm??
Bit cheeky
Hmm
Just measured my new b3, and that's 105mm
And my best ever old bat, an old gn supreme 5star, is 104mm
I guess, unless you measure it, it's not an issue
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I bought the Predator 1300 a week orso ago. Weighs 2.11 with a spiral grip. Similar pressing to a B3: could barely dent it with my Lignum Vitae mallet but it pings unreal. Bought it last Sat, used it on Sunday and hit the first ball i faced for 90 meter 6...
The spine isnt as high as an XP80 but the edge is bigger. Bit of a combination of both. Measured the width of the face though and its only 104mm....
Where did you the Predator from?
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Fatter & lighter , better balanced , just under 2lb 12oz , 52mm edge , spine height 72mm , square toe 22mm , less concaving into the toe area & 535mm in blade length , handle very similar with a slightly bigger knob @FattusCattus will love that , my other kabooms are 550mm blade length , each is different , weights & balance vary as well , no two are the same , this latest version is the best , very special , one of an initial exact spec , if the shop stock are the same you are in for an experience , get in early to your GN store to have a choice.
Thanks @Aussiecollector, I'm really tempted by a warner!!
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@sarg sorry buddy , the post should have said " I " have both , happy to answer questions on either bat , really enjoy your facebook page info & feedback , especially on bats not commonly sold here in aus
Cheers Mark :D
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Where did you the Predator from?
GCCC Albion
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I might have an VelocityXL or two on their way to me.
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@Jaffa looking fwd to seeing what arrives
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I might have an VelocityXL or two on their way to me.
Where are you sourcing your Velocty XL from? Are these XL "2000"?
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One XL 1500 and one XL 2000.
I bought them from a mate in Aus but it looks like he can't get any more. I hope they will be available in July.
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One XL 1500 and one XL 2000.
I bought them from a mate in Aus but it looks like he can't get any more. I hope they will be available in July.
Lucky man! I am looking for an XL2000.
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So they do exist, but for how long I don't know.
25mm edges and 25mm toe. Spine, I don't have a vernier but I'd say 75mm plus. 2lb 11oz on the sticker, 2lb 12,6oz on the scales. Thin (taped) oval handle, picks up better than it should.
(http://i1290.photobucket.com/albums/b540/busav8/IMG_2328_zpsrt0pecwz.jpg) (http://s1290.photobucket.com/user/busav8/media/IMG_2328_zpsrt0pecwz.jpg.html)
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^ Is this the new Chris Lynn profile? It is supposed to have a thicker toe than XP-80 (23/24 mm toe).
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So they do exist, but for how long I don't know.
25mm edges and 25mm toe. Spine, I don't have a vernier but I'd say 75mm plus. 2lb 11oz on the sticker, 2lb 12,6oz on the scales. Thin (taped) oval handle, picks up better than it should.
([url]http://i1290.photobucket.com/albums/b540/busav8/IMG_2328_zpsrt0pecwz.jpg[/url]) ([url]http://s1290.photobucket.com/user/busav8/media/IMG_2328_zpsrt0pecwz.jpg.html[/url])
When you talk about toe thickness where are you measuring - edge or thickest point?
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You will find the blade length is shorter as well , chris lynn specs , put another bat beside it & see , the longer spine really balances the extra thickness beautifully , great pickup @Jaffa the 1st few made are special , any stamps in the shoulder ???
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Is the profile of yours the same as the one originally pictured?
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Yep, same profile.
(http://i1290.photobucket.com/albums/b540/busav8/IMG_2330_zpsyj0ln384.jpg) (http://s1290.photobucket.com/user/busav8/media/IMG_2330_zpsyj0ln384.jpg.html)
(http://i1290.photobucket.com/albums/b540/busav8/IMG_2331_zpsjwslpvek.jpg) (http://s1290.photobucket.com/user/busav8/media/IMG_2331_zpsjwslpvek.jpg.html)
Apologies. Photobucket and myself are not getting on at the moment.
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Is this a shorter blade? Can you measure it? Thanks!
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Same blade length if not longer than my other SH bats due to squarer shoulders.
One stamp (T = year I believe) on the shoulder and the A stamped at the back near the toe for Aus made.
Without a vernier I'd say 25mm toe all the way around. Would a few mm really matter?
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It shouldn't be shorter, only the players choice model is being made a bit shorter in the blade. The toe will vary a few from bat to bat anyway and despite Internaltrainings unwillingness to accept the facts, there has been no issue with the toe on XP 80 bats.
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(http://i1290.photobucket.com/albums/b540/busav8/IMG_2328_zpsrt0pecwz.jpg)
Are the shoulders supposed to be out of sink ?
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Nice purchase(s) @Jaffa! Clear your inbox btw lol
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Are the shoulders supposed to be out of sink ?
There was me thinking the lad who put the tape on either worked in a library or looked at life askew but looking again I think you're right about the shoulders.
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Screams fake to me. I cannot see GN allowing this out of their stable.
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Same blade length if not longer than my other SH bats due to squarer shoulders.
One stamp (T = year I believe) on the shoulder and the A stamped at the back near the toe for Aus made.
Without a vernier I'd say 25mm toe all the way around. Would a few mm really matter?
Only asked about the toe as my XP80s have about a 4-5mm difference between the edge and the thickest point. Guess they have modified this for the new shape.
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Question for the Aus GN specialists including @Aussiecollector & @skip1973, and @sarg
Does the position of the T on the shoulder and the A on the back have any relevance to who made it? The T is on different shoulders for my XP80s and also faces a different direction. And some bats seem to have the A on the back near the shoulders, and others (velocity and warners?) seem to have it on the back by the toe.
Thanks
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Screams fake to me. I cannot see GN allowing this out of their stable.
@Jaffa definitely fake mate! As Admin, I demand that you send that bat to me where I will obviously deal with the bat how I see fit to!
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Screams fake to me. I cannot see GN allowing this out of their stable.
I did raise an eyebrow or two when I saw it. Small price to pay for a preproduction bat. You can register it with GN for the warranty if needed.
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@Jaffa definitely fake mate! As Admin, I demand that you send that bat to me where I will obviously deal with the bat how I see fit to!
In that case you might want to also confiscate the other two bats that I'll be picking up later today. Another XL (1500) and a GN Atomic 1400 like this one...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3ZZ_CatQCA4 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3ZZ_CatQCA4)
Last of the big bats?
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Had some bats from reputable bat makers with slightly wonky shoulders, I guess it's the nature of something that's handmade. Funnily enough, all the ones I've had which have slightly wonky shoulders have always been absolute belters. (From personal experience, my TK pro bats tend to have slightly wonkier shoulders) I think I've even had a couple of Lavers that have had ever so slight out of sync shoulders!
This one looks a gem, seems like a little more wood to the toe and a slightly lower spine makes the shape look a bit more productive to balls hit lower down the blade. How does it tap up? The only thing that would have me worried is the weight, if it says 2.11 but weighs 2.12 and a bit, they probably weighed it ungripped!
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In that case you might want to also confiscate the other two bats that I'll be picking up later today. Another XL (1500) and a GN Atomic 1400 like this one...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3ZZ_CatQCA4 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3ZZ_CatQCA4)
Last of the big bats?
I may have to confiscate them all! ;)
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The other two have arrived.
Atomic 2lb 8oz sticker, 2lb 8,7oz on the scales. 47mm edges but 105mm blade width.
XL 1500 2lb 11oz sticker, 2lb 11,7oz on the scales. 25mm edges 27mm toe, +75mm spine.
(http://i1290.photobucket.com/albums/b540/busav8/IMG_2342_zpsq7gswhtw.jpg) (http://s1290.photobucket.com/user/busav8/media/IMG_2342_zpsq7gswhtw.jpg.html)
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The other two have arrived.
Atomic 2lb 8oz sticker, 2lb 8,7oz on the scales. 47mm edges but 105mm blade width.
XL 1500 2lb 11oz sticker, 2lb 11,7oz on the scales. 25mm edges 27mm toe, +75mm spine.
Atomic is 105 mm width...that's the SF trick! Prerelease models. Not fakes. Definitely GN made in Melbourne. The Legend and E41 I recently reviewed and knocked are from the same source and the GN feel is unmistakable.Too bad thet are all gone now @Jaffa purchased them all. Bahahaha
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I never noticed SF bats to have thinner blades.
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Atomic is 105 mm width...that's the SF trick! Prerelease models. Not fakes. Definitely GN made in Melbourne. The Legend and E41 I recently reviewed and knocked are from the same source and the GN feel is unmistakable.Too bad thet are all gone now @Jaffa purchased them all. Bahahaha
Haha yea saw that the SF black edition came in harrow width given it's huge edge and profile.
Saw that Atomic posted a while back from the source maybe and it looked a beauty.
Was at a very good price too.
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Just checked my SF and is 104mm but after at least 2 refurbs since 2004.
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Just out of curiosity to experts here, what is the difference between this velocity xl/warner shape compared to kahuna extreme/obscene.. to me they look similar shape and size/weights, yet the kahunas seem to be much more accessible..