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Companies => Custom companies => B3 Cricket => Topic started by: jd163 on June 18, 2017, 10:23:26 PM
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Is this true? B3 claiming that Fakhar Zaman's bat is made by B3. Can B3 openly claim that the bat is made by them when the stickers are from CA. Here is the story from B3's facebook page
https://www.facebook.com/B3Cricket/photos/a.531463293537805.135622.403435713007231/1773045429379579/?type=3 (https://www.facebook.com/B3Cricket/photos/a.531463293537805.135622.403435713007231/1773045429379579/?type=3)
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Is this true? B3 claiming that Fakhar Zaman's bat is made by B3. Can B3 openly claim that the bat is made by them when the stickers are from CA. Here is the story from B3's facebook page
https://www.facebook.com/B3Cricket/photos/a.531463293537805.135622.403435713007231/1773045429379579/?type=3 (https://www.facebook.com/B3Cricket/photos/a.531463293537805.135622.403435713007231/1773045429379579/?type=3)
I think its an open secret by now.
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Open secret or not, it's rare to see other bat makers claiming ownership of bats stickered up by another company.
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Aren't all/most pro bats stickered up? Why the public declaration? Why no declarations about Finch, Root's bats?
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B3 are new to the industry so maybe cut them some slack.
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Open secret or not, it's rare to see other bat makers claiming ownership of bats stickered up by another company.
True, B3 are acting cheeky but this could cause issues for the young player with his sponsor/contract. Especially when the sponsor are a big bat maker themselves
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Technically b3 didn't say his bat was b3 .... they just said that they can make one exactly the same . We all know thats because they have the cnc profile number from when they made his bat , but at a pinch b3 could just say they mean that they can make an exact replica of a ca 15000 . Simple . Cheeky , borderline perhaps , but simple nonetheless.
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Easy marketing ;)
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Technically b3 didn't say his bat was b3 .... they just said that they can make one exactly the same . We all know thats because they have the cnc profile number from when they made his bat , but at a pinch b3 could just say they mean that they can make an exact replica of a ca 15000 . Simple . Cheeky , borderline perhaps , but simple nonetheless.
Here is a tweet:
Michael Blatherwick @blathers66 Jun 7
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" When you see one of your bats smash it around in #iccchampionstrophy2017 and it doesn't have your stickers on it's a bit of a fakhar 🤐"
Cute, isn't it. :D
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I rate B3 among the best bat makers and i got 2 B3 bats myself. It would be intersting if B3 can share the profile details of the bat like they did for Shan Masood profile. @The Doctor
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I rate B3 among the best bat makers and i got 2 B3 bats myself. It would be intersting if B3 can share the profile details of the bat like they did for Shan Masood profile. @The Doctor
I think it's the 5432 one. ;)
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B3 are new to the industry so maybe cut them some slack.
It is all down to the player, for example - Shoib Malik did not mind people knowing that we made his bats, where as another Pakistan player at the same time didn't want people to know - so we didn't say anything.
Finch openly posted on instagram/twitter, other players like him have said again that we must keep it a secret.
We would love to tell you all who we make for but we have an agreement with either other brands or individual players.
As for new to the business - B3 has been around for 5 years, and prior to that a further 28 years in the industry in a global cricket brand.
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@The Doctor can we get the profile details and number?
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As for new to the business - B3 has been around for 5 years, and prior to that a further 28 years in the industry in a global cricket brand.
Yes, that posters comment did make me chuckle a lot, so much 'knowledge' on this forum at times :)
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I would have said "Surely no-one in the world still thinks that Pros only use the brand on their bats" Then I saw some of the Pakistani comments on B3's post on FB and I just rolled my eyes.
Obviously a hell of a bat because he didn't middle too many in that innings and it still flew.
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Are your anywhere near to Finsbury Park Bruce ?
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I would have said "Surely no-one in the world still thinks that Pros only use the brand on their bats" Then I saw some of the Pakistani comments on B3's post on FB and I just rolled my eyes.
Obviously a hell of a bat because he didn't middle too many in that innings and it still flew.
B3 have been around for 5 years but how many years have Newbery, Hunts and Millichamp been around?
They have all made bats for top players. They have all had to watch other brands, with much deeper pockets, burn through their marketing budgets to have pros use their brand on TV.
On a similar note, you have to ask yourself if people genuinely think that, for example, NB (A shoe retailer) and MRF (A tyre manufacturer) make their bats.
If people are naive enough, let them carry on. We know better... fortunately!
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Are your anywhere near to Finsbury Park Bruce ?
No I am not Michel. Franks - are your?
Or perhaps you are near Nottingham and I have foolishly underestimated your knowledge :)
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Nottingham could be a bridge far for me.
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Whatever happened to 'If you bought the bat as Brand X, then it is a Brand X bat.'
I reckon if B3 want the glory of an international scoring big with their equipment then they should sponsor him. CA are paying his bills so I think we should respect that.
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I'm not convinced meet the parents is working with a b3 blade.
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B3 have a right to call out players who have potentially broken agreements or contracts and to make sure people know it is themselves who should receive praise for the bat in the players hands.
I doubt the is case here but you never know. Is there any cases of players breaking contracts?
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Isnt there some sort of an NDA between the batmakers/players/brands to protect the brands' interests? Never seen any batmaker so blatantly claim that they are the makers of the players' bats.
If every bat maker goes around making such claims, it would surely have some effect on the brand's sales.
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The real question here is who is @Michael.Franks1965??
My money's on our old friend Mr Vincent...
As for B3, if it's not in the players contract then they're well within their right to advertise.
Saying that if I was in CA's shoes then I certainly wouldn't be best pleased (but then it's also their fault for not getting it in the contract in the first place!!).
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Have you released your 2017 gloves yet Adam or are you still working out the numbers on Lavers offer ?
Trust me, I'm not Lekka James.
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Have a feeling you might be thailand based at least.
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B3 have a right to call out players who have potentially broken agreements or contracts and to make sure people know it is themselves who should receive praise for the bat in the players hands.
I doubt the is case here but you never know. Is there any cases of players breaking contracts?
Not a case of calling out players - if players are open for us to publicise that we make their bats then we will occasionally do so, especially in high profile matches. If not (in the majority of cases) we will respect their wishes and not say a dickie bird.
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Trust me, I'm not Lekka James.
http://www.metrolyrics.com/vincents-ear-lyrics-michael-franks.html (http://www.metrolyrics.com/vincents-ear-lyrics-michael-franks.html)
10/10 for effort I'll give you that one!
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@The Doctor I am still interested in the bat profile details.
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It is all down to the player, for example - Shoib Malik did not mind people knowing that we made his bats, where as another Pakistan player at the same time didn't want people to know - so we didn't say anything.
Finch openly posted on instagram/twitter, other players like him have said again that we must keep it a secret.
We would love to tell you all who we make for but we have an agreement with either other brands or individual players.
As for new to the business - B3 has been around for 5 years, and prior to that a further 28 years in the industry in a global cricket brand.
picture of Shoab and Me is pride of place...
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@The Doctor I am still interested in the bat profile details.
me too :)
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Me too also what grade would you get for the said £330 ?
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1 I'd imagine
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Have you guys considered the possibility that he might have actually used a CA in the final? :D
I think I saw a bow in his bat. :D
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Me too also what grade would you get for the said £330 ?
I believe Dr. responded in B3 twitter handle that it's a 3 stripe.
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Have you guys considered the possibility that he might have actually used a CA in the final? :D
I think I saw a bow in his bat. :D
Not much bowing going off to be fair
(http://i1042.photobucket.com/albums/b426/jimmyboydun/Mobile%20Uploads/A6065318-259D-4608-80EC-7C547CF9FA8C_zpsrgfl4bgi.jpg) (http://s1042.photobucket.com/user/jimmyboydun/media/Mobile%20Uploads/A6065318-259D-4608-80EC-7C547CF9FA8C_zpsrgfl4bgi.jpg.html)
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(http://i65.tinypic.com/9fuwc2.jpg)
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(http://i66.tinypic.com/34dg02x.jpg)
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B3 have been around for 5 years but how many years have Newbery, Hunts and Millichamp been around?
They have all made bats for top players. They have all had to watch other brands, with much deeper pockets, burn through their marketing budgets to have pros use their brand on TV.
On a similar note, you have to ask yourself if people genuinely think that, for example, NB (A shoe retailer) and MRF (A tyre manufacturer) make their bats.
If people are naive enough, let them carry on. We know better... fortunately!
I'm more concerned about the kids that 'have to have x bat, like their favourite star', when his bats aren't made by his sponsor.
Paying money for a an ill represent product, just to pay off big sponsorship deals is wrong in my books.
Whatever happened to 'If you bought the bat as Brand X, then it is a Brand X bat.'
I reckon if B3 want the glory of an international scoring big with their equipment then they should sponsor him. CA are paying his bills so I think we should respect that.
If CA are paying the bills, they should produce a product that the player wants to use. If your gear is s*#& and the player feels the need to go somewhere else, fair game for that company that actually produces the goods to claim ownership of their product.
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I'm more concerned about the kids that 'have to have x bat, like their favourite star', when his bats aren't made by his sponsor.
Paying money for a an ill represent product, just to pay off big sponsorship deals is wrong in my books.
If CA are paying the bills, they should produce a product that the player wants to use. If your gear is s*#& and the player feels the need to go somewhere else, fair game for that company that actually produces the goods to claim ownership of their product.
Or you can look at like this : bat is a blank canvas . Batmaker/sponsor can provide the canvas and the advertising, or the sponsor can just provide the advertising and the player can source their own canvas .
Cars are 'stickered up' , so are tvs , computers , so many things these days . No one ever really complains that brand x tv has a samsung panel , or the rolls royce is just a stickered up beemer .
Re the little kid who wants a bat the same as his favourite player -a) parent buys best bat they can afford to get the kid irrespective of whether the kid likes the brand/stickers, b) parent buys the best performing bat with the right stickers on them( ultimately, the kid would be happy with this outcome , even if the player actually uses something else) , c) parent says 'stuff it , you can use this bat i had back in 1972 when i was your age' . :D :(
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Interested by this @The Doctor , why would anybody choose profile 2 with a much smaller sweet spot?
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Interested by this @The Doctor , why would anybody choose profile 2 with a much smaller sweet spot?
Different Weights for different formats
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With cricket bats being made from Willow a great natural product cricketers will always be looking for the stick that they feel most confident with.
Unlike golf clubs or darts which are machine made to very small tolerances where a manufacturer can truly replicate what a player is after time after time.
And from Fakhar's point of view- he has just broken his fav bat in the nets and a new CA may take a few days to get delivered from his CA batmaker. Or as he in the area goes and sees B3 (or any other UK batmaker) and walks out with some new sticks there and then.
Finally, I'm sure @The Doctor and the B3 boys are not naive to think that it doesn't happen them too- A B3 sponsored player using another brand's bat stickered as one of theirs.
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@thedoctor what weight would these come in at ?
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@thedoctor what weight would these come in at ?
The smaller one - 2'8 / the bigger one 2'10
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One of them bats looks very familiar