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Title: Duds
Post by: Sitonit on July 11, 2017, 12:39:09 PM

We have talked much about praising and appreciating our purchased bats.

Did anyone ever have a disappointment with a new or used bat?



Title: Re: Duds
Post by: Gurujames on July 11, 2017, 12:45:32 PM
I've had 2 MSR's which were both planks. One was a g1 the other a butterfly. A GM Apex original was also poor.
Title: Re: Duds
Post by: tim2000s on July 11, 2017, 12:46:25 PM
We have talked much about praising and appreciating our purchased bats.

Did anyone ever have a disappointment with a new or used bat?
Yes, many of us, and one brand in particular did pretty badly in that respect. Just search for the SAF topic on here.
Title: Re: Duds
Post by: edge on July 11, 2017, 12:55:07 PM
Only real disappointment I've had in a good while was a sports direct sale GN which just felt a bit rubbish when netting, small middle and vibrations through the handle even after a good knocking in and a few nets. Suspect it was just pressed too hard, maybe it'll make someone a decent bat if they give it the time to open up, but I just moved it on via eBay.
Title: Re: Duds
Post by: Seniorplayer on July 11, 2017, 01:01:24 PM
Not in recent times but Have had two both GNs one I took back to the sports retail store and explained it didn't ping  but they didn't  want to know so I contacted my insurance helpline who wrote to them I got  my money back on returning the bat.
The second i sent back to GN  with a covering letter after phoning first stating  the bat  didn't  ping they swopped it for a like for like new bat no problem.
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Post by: Biggie Smalls on July 11, 2017, 02:16:15 PM
Bought a 3lb puma/millichamp when i was 14 . Looked amazing grain wise and was top of the line g1 . They wouldn't let me use a mallet to ping test it in store , but they ping tested a bunch in front of me and gave me the 'best' one which i bought in good faith . Anyway it was an absolute plank . Vibrated like hell and sounded like Dennis Lillee's aluminum bat when you managed to find the miniscule middle . I took it back to the store .... they laughed in shock( embarrassment? ) when they ping tested it again , apologised profusely,  replaced the bat and i ended up with an absolute belter . Sometimes you get a dud . Moral to that story - i still occasionally buy bats from the same store till this day but i always say to them ' if you don't let me ping test it myself I'll take my money elsewhere'.
Title: Re: Duds
Post by: Calzehbhoy on July 11, 2017, 02:52:53 PM
I bought a top of the range GN Velocity a few years back with the carbon handle. It was absolutely terrible. I took it back to Robertsbridge 3 times and each time they refuse to do anything to it. I ended up chucking it in a skip it was that bad.
Title: Re: Duds
Post by: InternalTraining on July 11, 2017, 03:58:19 PM
Performance free B3s. Once in a blue moon, I'd use them against cheap net balls in nets. They are so hard pressed you can drive nails with them.

Never again, I say!
Title: Re: Duds
Post by: t2ylo on July 11, 2017, 04:11:16 PM
Performance free B3s. Once in a blue moon, I'd use them against cheap net balls in nets. They are so hard pressed you can drive nails with them.

Never again, I say!

Also had a bad b3. Just didn't sound right. Sold on & put it down to a one off.
Title: Re: Duds
Post by: thedon on July 11, 2017, 05:11:23 PM
I've had a few gm's 909's. Pressed hard. I would never buy gm again
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Post by: WalkingWicket37 on July 11, 2017, 05:28:36 PM
I've often found the duds turn into absolute guns as soon as they're used by a teammate :-[
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Post by: KW9221 on July 11, 2017, 06:05:26 PM
I've had a few gm's 909's. Pressed hard. I would never buy gm again
I have also had bad experience with GM so I won't be buying GM anymore.
Title: Re: Duds
Post by: JB on July 11, 2017, 06:27:53 PM
I've got a GN Omega LE Robertsbridge made that doesn't sound great! Very tinny sound to it
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Post by: smilley792 on July 11, 2017, 06:34:56 PM
A few rock hard GMs off all grades. Shame as I did used to like and rely on a good GM


Had a grays that was awful. Shop agreed and sent back to grays, grays returned it claiming it was fine and they wouldn't refund/replace.
Amusingky.you could see the mark in the stickers where they had repressed it to about 1inch from toe to. Just below splice was pressed a few mm lower and you could. See it plain as day).
They also manage to. Burn one of the edges(can only presume steaming dents out went wrong)

It was a dud and ended up as a lad at our clubs indoor bat. Tape ball all it was useful for.
Title: Re: Duds
Post by: Ajdal on July 12, 2017, 06:39:43 AM
A 2014/15 GM 808 Icon, quite heavy for it's size and pressed hard as a rock. And a Spartan CG Authority(top of the line?), soft as soft gets and not in a good way. The response was terrible when bouncing a ball on it and the balance was terrible, felt like all the weight was near the toe. Very heavy concaving on it too.

Both these bats were not mine but a friend's, bought blind online.
Title: Re: Duds
Post by: JTtaylor145 on July 12, 2017, 06:53:43 AM
If you play cricket for long enough and buy enough bats you are bound to have the odd dud. I've had GM duds, GN duds, Slaz duds, Fearnley duds and Newbery duds. Sometimes you do wonder if you are in fact dud. I'll normally buy one claim that its crapola and give it to my brother (who is a much better batsman than I am) and shock horror suddenly the bat has a middle.
Title: Re: Duds
Post by: Wickets-then-runs on July 12, 2017, 11:15:28 AM
Had a Bradbury Players model a  few years ago with a lovely middle that was unfortunately the size of a malnourished pea... took it back to GCCC who sent it back to Bradbury. It was returned saying it was fine. In disgust, i left it with the guy at the shop for free! Never bought again.
Title: Re: Duds
Post by: trypewriter on July 12, 2017, 11:50:16 AM
I've often found the duds turn into absolute guns as soon as they're used by a teammate :-[


Me too!
Title: Re: Duds
Post by: SOULMAN1012 on July 12, 2017, 01:12:29 PM
Personally biggest dud was an affinity Carbine was 2nd hand but was awful. Apart from that didn't like GM and B3 bats from 2years ago or so but have 2 GM's from this season and both are superb from the get go and my B3 from last years 50% sale offer is also a hell of a lot better than previous offerings.
Title: Re: Duds
Post by: amritpremi on July 12, 2017, 04:42:45 PM
Wouldn't say a dud but one of the least performing bats I had was H4L NV G2 bought from one of our sponsors. Balance was ok & ping was just average or just below average for me. Passed it on. All of my bats have performed better than that, expected slightly better from a forum sponsor retailer.
Title: Re: Duds
Post by: jblowe on July 12, 2017, 04:54:42 PM
A long time ago I had a GN lara scoop. I saved up months for it as at the time I was living in poverty. I loved it until the first game it was used. we were batting in a semi final of a cup competition when our captain/best player broke his bat and called for a new one. I trotted out with my brand new GN and handed it over with great pride. next ball he middle it to mid off, or should I say he hit the ball in the middle of the bat and the ball looped gently to mid-off.  He marched off fuming with anger, when he got to where we were encamped, he bellowed this bat is a "pile of S***" then span around and throw the bat over the perimeter fence and onto an adjacent railway line. The bat was never seen again, but the following Monday he took me down to the local sports shop an purchased me a replacement which was a stunner.
Title: Re: Duds
Post by: OwzatOllie on July 12, 2017, 05:55:16 PM
Spartan MC4000...absolute shocker.  Keeping it as a bowling machine bat
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Post by: LBWCandidate on July 12, 2017, 07:13:42 PM
I've often found the duds turn into absolute guns as soon as they're used by a teammate :-[

Happens to some of us..lol
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Post by: LBWCandidate on July 12, 2017, 07:16:23 PM
A GM Six6 808 I got from eBay. Picks up great but doesn't clear the infield.
Been using it successfully for tape ball cricket and hit some long sixes.
Title: Re: Duds
Post by: bostoncricketer on July 13, 2017, 12:32:29 AM
GN Oblivion 4 Star and a H4L Hattori G2
Title: Re: Duds
Post by: Australian fast bowler on July 13, 2017, 03:34:38 AM
I never understand these type of things, of course if you take it on face value that the bat you used was a poor one then that's all it should be. I always laugh when i see people asking or saying that certain bat brand and model are awful/great this year. Every brand produces good bats, everyone produces a poor one, i had a mate bring me his GM LE last week to put a new toe guard on it, it was an utter plank even after years of use yet others will swear by them as the best of everything. We all have good bats we all have not so good ones, but just because one person said that theirs was a plank doesn't mean they are
Title: Re: Duds
Post by: LcWoodward on July 13, 2017, 09:28:26 AM
Bought a puma ballistic mcgrath foundation LE the other year, it was dead right through.
Title: Re: Duds
Post by: Mattsky on July 13, 2017, 02:47:29 PM
Personally biggest dud was an affinity Carbine was 2nd hand but was awful. Apart from that didn't like GM and B3 bats from 2years ago or so but have 2 GM's from this season and both are superb from the get go and my B3 from last years 50% sale offer is also a hell of a lot better than previous offerings.


@SOULMAN1012 um...was it this very one, Chris?

http://custombats.co.uk/cbforum/index.php?topic=39101.msg620252#msg620252 (http://custombats.co.uk/cbforum/index.php?topic=39101.msg620252#msg620252)

Title: Re: Duds
Post by: InternalTraining on July 13, 2017, 02:57:08 PM
^^^ Hahahahahha
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Post by: Jaffa on July 13, 2017, 04:13:27 PM
@SOULMAN1012 um...was it this very one, Chris?

[url]http://custombats.co.uk/cbforum/index.php?topic=39101.msg620252#msg620252[/url] ([url]http://custombats.co.uk/cbforum/index.php?topic=39101.msg620252#msg620252[/url])


I thought it was an unwritten rule that duds go to ebay rather than the 'for sale' section here.
Title: Re: Duds
Post by: Jaffa on July 13, 2017, 04:23:04 PM
I bought 3x Slaz V1200 Fusions for £25 ea in a SD sale so I can't complain too much that 2 were right planks. The pressing was rock hard in places and soft in others. No amount of knocking in helped.

Sold the 3 to team mates for the price I paid telling them they weren't that great which they accepted for the price. Later in one of them the glue in the Hex handle gave up so when playing a shot it sounded like you were gnashing your teeth.
Title: Re: Duds
Post by: wcc on July 13, 2017, 04:41:14 PM
Years ago i bought a Gray Nicolls Nitro Pro Performance which turned out to be a right plank.
Title: Re: Duds
Post by: SOULMAN1012 on July 13, 2017, 08:08:42 PM
@SOULMAN1012 um...was it this very one, Chris?

[url]http://custombats.co.uk/cbforum/index.php?topic=39101.msg620252#msg620252[/url] ([url]http://custombats.co.uk/cbforum/index.php?topic=39101.msg620252#msg620252[/url])


@Mattsky thanks for trying to call me out but no wasn't that one was an earlier pro edition but good try.
Title: Re: Duds
Post by: Mattsky on July 14, 2017, 12:04:50 PM
heh. Good to hear.
Because that's the one I bought from you.   ;)
Title: Re: Duds
Post by: Shazzehhh on July 20, 2017, 09:40:29 PM
My mates GM Mana Original  bought from an online retailer, he has stuck by it for 3 seasons hoping it will open up but honestly my £75 MB Sher E Amin performs better.

SF triumph bought from OLS, grains are decent but not sticking out, bleached willow with some slight blemish, just didnt look right and after several hours of knocking in still doesnt responds.
Title: Re: Duds
Post by: sarg on July 21, 2017, 02:14:02 AM
I had a GN Fusion 500 and a GN Megadrive. The dud was me buying bats on looks or gimmicks not what I actually needed. Megadrive was great for another batsman.

One person's trash is another's treasure.

That said i had a early db2 that sounded awful. Didn't deter me and I think they make a awesome bat now. Early adopters be damned.
Title: Re: Duds
Post by: Duffers on July 21, 2017, 08:16:29 AM
Had an SS Ltd Edition once. Couldn't hit it an inch. Replaced that with a L&W that went like stink, that got loaned to a team mate and never returned!
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Post by: jamesisapayne on July 21, 2017, 11:08:29 AM
Interesting that there seems to be quite a lot of GN bats on here!
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Post by: it's_a_pudding on July 21, 2017, 11:32:45 AM
Off the top of my head I would say there is only 2 from 30 odd one a old style predator 5 star and the worst one was a Warsop platinum.
Title: Re: Duds
Post by: Dazz on July 21, 2017, 02:13:28 PM
Had 2 absolute planks in my time but seen a lot!! First one was a newbery series 1 from years ago and I recently bought a Python in the Kohli profile that quite simply hasn't got a middle and the stickers were like they'd been done on a printer in someone's front room.
Title: Re: Duds
Post by: bruggers100 on July 21, 2017, 02:39:09 PM
Duncan Fearnley 405.  Absolute plank from memory.  I've still got it and It's the only bat I have left from my childhood. 

Unfortunately, I stripped it and took the twining off the handle, so I can't use it to see it it's as bad as I remember.  I wonder if I should get it done up and see how bad it is.  Can you get repro stickers for these types of projects ?
Title: Re: Duds
Post by: RhysH on August 02, 2017, 12:40:37 PM
GN Powerbow 750, 2 of them online retailer for me & my brother, could have hit the ball harder with a branch.
Title: Re: Duds
Post by: mohawks94 on August 02, 2017, 01:11:35 PM
I had a Kookaburra Genesis Hurricane in Harrow when I was in year 8 so ten years back now. First game I used it in it pinged for a while but then stopped, went from easy scoring to labouring to 46 in 25 overs for school. Next club game opened up, retired on 31* in 18 overs. On my coaches advice sent it back, Kooka/Fordham Sports did their thing and it went OK. Until the splice fell out and it split down both sides of the spine. Took it back and replaced on the spot for an absolute rocket that saw me through the next season and a half.
Title: Re: Duds
Post by: Mattsky on August 04, 2017, 02:53:43 PM
Duncan Fearnley 405.  Absolute plank from memory.  I've still got it and It's the only bat I have left from my childhood. 

Unfortunately, I stripped it and took the twining off the handle, so I can't use it to see it it's as bad as I remember.  I wonder if I should get it done up and see how bad it is.  Can you get repro stickers for these types of projects ?

DF might refurb and re-sticker it, if you're game.
Title: Re: Duds
Post by: Sitonit on August 11, 2017, 12:02:31 AM
I once fell for a sales pitch - "Custom made bat (Kashmir willow) for 35 pounds"

So I placed the order with this seller in India - a light bat, around 2.7 with 35 or more edges.

These were the good old days when they didn't use tree trunks in the name of cricket bats, so the technique  of using "super using over dried clefts to create monster bats in extra light weight" was not too popular.

So in order to meet my specs he made me a "custom bat" in size harrow or even small size.
The blade was 104 mm in width and length was also 1.5 inches short. The blade also had a big knot in the middle.

I took the deep cold sigh after opening the parcel and wished if I had played lottery or just tossed 35 pounds out of the car window, instead.

This bat was dead as it gets. I knocked it in for a week, and took it to nets for a season but not an iota of difference.

Finally I took a large size carpenter's hammer, and started tapping it.
I slowly moved to full blown BANGS with the metal head for at least two weeks. I thought it will wake up a dead horse but the that bat remained dead !!

I finally sold it on eBay for 29 pounds.
Title: Re: Duds
Post by: JonathanH on August 11, 2017, 12:54:42 AM
Story goes as follows:

In April 2017, Cricket Store Online (of USA) conducted a contest for GN Supernova 5 star bat, which is priced at $360 in their website. My friend won the contest and our team was happy to finally have a good team bat. He asked them to knock the bat for which they charged $60. Yet, we were happy as we paid $60+ shipping for a $360 bat. After, waiting anxiously for the bat to arrive, we found that it is one of the worst bat in terms of performance. Its ping is worst than a $50 bat. Now, we use the bat for tennis balls cricket or in nets.

My take away from this experience was don't get excited for free bats from cricket store contest  ;)

Title: Re: Duds
Post by: InternalTraining on August 11, 2017, 01:17:44 AM
^ HAHAHAHAH

You have to give it to the business that it is very clever marketing: they created a Lotta hype for practically a bad that's not worth firewood logs.
Title: Re: Duds
Post by: InternalTraining on August 11, 2017, 01:21:34 AM
....

Finally I took a large size carpenter's hammer, and started tapping it.
I slowly moved to full blown BANGS with the metal head for at least two weeks. I thought it will wake up a dead horse but the that bat remained dead !!

I finally sold it on eBay for 29 pounds.

It is simple calculus for me. What is my weekend/practice/bat knocking time worth?  And, I learned that lesson the painful way.
Title: Re: Duds
Post by: JonathanH on August 11, 2017, 03:34:59 AM
@InternalTraining  Agree. The whole team got involved in collecting votes to win the contest and our friends started hating us for pushing them a lot to vote. All the effort put on getting this bat was a waste of time and hampered relationship among friends.  :D
Title: Re: Duds
Post by: Boondougal on August 11, 2017, 08:24:23 AM
Used our second team captains Kook Kahuna in the nets last night... Absolutle plank... which i was very keen to point out too him. It did have the smallest of middles but everything else was dead as a Do Do. I got him a really nice NB sourced off a fellow forumite that he has been using for the past few weeks.. but it just so happens he has barely made a run with it... seriously out of nick. Ironically batting last night we had a middling bat.... and surprise surprise he was smashing everything with it. The NB is just too heavy i think.
Title: Re: Duds
Post by: Sitonit on August 12, 2017, 02:51:32 AM
Used our second team captains Kook Kahuna in the nets last night... Absolutle plank... which i was very keen to point out too him. It did have the smallest of middles but everything else was dead as a Do Do. I got him a really nice NB sourced off a fellow forumite that he has been using for the past few weeks.. but it just so happens he has barely made a run with it... seriously out of nick. Ironically batting last night we had a middling bat.... and surprise surprise he was smashing everything with it. The NB is just too heavy i think.

Sometimes a batsman in bad nick plays extremely well in abnormal batting atmosphere - like on a horrible pitch or with an unusual bat. I think it's a stroke of luck in the batting world where two negatives result in a positive.