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General Cricket => Latest Matches => Topic started by: Buzz on December 19, 2018, 09:08:08 AM
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We probably need a bbl thread as it started today.
Reasonable to say I think the bat spinning flats vs roofs nonsense is stupid.
As were Matthew Haydon's jeans at the first toss...
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This run out is a farce
I love it
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it's fantastic entertainment!
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Lovely Jos
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Beat me too it.
Jos doing that Jos thing.
Rooooooot next in, with some pad rash!
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Also BT Sport are showing this for free on YouTube https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8chqW_SKETk (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8chqW_SKETk)
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Looks like Tom Curran had a good game, despite ending up on the losing side
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Please can someone explain why this tournament is better than the Blast? It’s very average and the overseas apart from Buttler, Khan and Jofra...
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The quality of cricket in the Big Bash has been on a steady decline for the past couple of years. This is mainly due to the young local talent being average at best. The fact that the home side and SA play tests around the same time doesnt help matters as well since most of the superstars are absent.
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I thought the games have been enjoyable . Yes without a lot of big names
But just fun on mornings to watch
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Please can someone explain why this tournament is better than the Blast? It’s very average and the overseas apart from Buttler, Khan and Jofra...
The big bash has never really been about quality or taking itself seriously. It’s nearly always been ‘fun’ to watch and feels more like light entertainment.. the way the commentators joke around, players are miked up and are willing to have a laugh etc.
I’m not a fan of 2020 but the BBL is good light entertainment.
The IPL thinks it’s some super duper completion and itself way to seriously.. fact is it’s barely much better in quality really. The blast is a curious mix of too serious and some good fun. It can’t seem to decide what it wants to be..
Nothing wrong with 2020 being about fun though as it’s hardly the format anyone really cares about the qualitu as
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Please can someone explain why this tournament is better than the Blast? It’s very average and the overseas apart from Buttler, Khan and Jofra...
Simple - blast has too many teams which dilutes talent. Also most t20 specialists rather play in the cpl
Aussies have done well filling big stadiums and getting the public to buy in to it - Bigger crowds than international games.
I agree the quality is on the downwards slope, cricket Australia should’ve probably allowed warner and smith to participate.
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Blast attendance rising year on year, BBL falling off a cliff. Finals Day is a proper event.
The IPL is a money laundering exercise second only to New York City.
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Blast attendance rising year on year, BBL falling off a cliff. Finals Day is a proper event.
The IPL is a money laundering exercise second only to New York City.
Can’t really compare 6-8000 attendence with 25000+
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Blast attendance rising year on year, BBL falling off a cliff. Finals Day is a proper event.
I've seen a few BBL games this year and they've all been half full - I'm sure they're getting less and less showing up.
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Attendance should increase in the new year, as it generally always does.
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Simple - blast has too many teams which dilutes talent. Also most t20 specialists rather play in the cpl
Aussies have done well filling big stadiums and getting the public to buy in to it - Bigger crowds than international games.
I agree the quality is on the downwards slope, cricket Australia should’ve probably allowed warner and smith to participate.
What difference would allowing smith and warner (both known cheats) to play do ??
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Blast attendance rising year on year, BBL falling off a cliff. Finals Day is a proper event.
The IPL is a money laundering exercise second only to New York City.
Finals day for Blast is a corporate day and piss up..
As someone else said, you can’t compare a few k in englsnd to 25k in Aus. Maybe, just maybe it’s down to people getting bored of the format ? You don’t get as much ebb and flow, drama etc. If the product essentially produces the same game over and over (aka bowlers getting launched ball after ball) then peoooe will tire of it. Maybe all these competitions will naturally settle down to a more standard attendances?
IPL is dire though. Indians love it so it’ll continue for a fair while
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Maybe you are right... think I enjoy 50 over 1 day game over a 20 20 game... it does get boring from a tactic point of view... it's wallop every ball...
Although playing it is great as you can squeeze in a game midweek after work. :D
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@RPC/Blueroom Cricket - Adie
I go to Finals day every year. I’m not sure 20k people are all on a jolly...
Also, I think that Surrey and Middlesex and Lancashire and Somerset and Kent would kick back on the few thousand thing. It’s so easy to sit back and make sweeping generalisations without looking at the facts. But hey ho.
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@RPC/Blueroom Cricket - Adie
I go to Finals day every year. I’m not sure 20k people are all on a jolly...
Also, I think that Surrey and Middlesex and Lancashire and Somerset and Kent would kick back on the few thousand thing. It’s so easy to sit back and make sweeping generalisations without looking at the facts. But hey ho.
Well they are. They are there to get trashed as you see it every time. Go on then, how many do they get compared to the Aussies ?? 8/9/10/11k ? Pick on particulars if you want but in any discussion you have to be general or anyone can find any little thing to ‘prove’ it wrong
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@RPC/Blueroom Cricket - Adie
I go to Finals day every year. I’m not sure 20k people are all on a jolly...
Also, I think that Surrey and Middlesex and Lancashire and Somerset and Kent would kick back on the few thousand thing. It’s so easy to sit back and make sweeping generalisations without looking at the facts. But hey ho.
How many are at this finals day ? As many as at a standard BBL game ? Even if it’s close, that’s 4 counties in a final vs two clubs in a normal game too.
The blast is fine as a competition but people do like to BS it and finals day up. Bit like Edgbaston and the Hollis stand..
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How many are at this finals day ? As many as at a standard BBL game ? Even if it’s close, that’s 4 counties in a final vs two clubs in a normal game too.
The blast is fine as a competition but people do like to BS it and finals day up. Bit like Edgbaston and the Hollis stand..
A while back I asked if you smile at Christmas. Now we know
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Hahahaha! Chapeau @LateBloomer Chapeau!
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funny how simply stating another POV gets your vilified and abused. Lovely. Believe the blast is the greatest I’d you wish as. Finals day is what everyone aspires too. I’ve England are full of world class players too if you really want too.
ECB love people like that after all
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I think you’ve gone over the top there.
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A while back I asked if you smile at Christmas. Now we know
Looks like Santa had a few too many sherries this year!
Merry Christmas everyone :D
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Butler misses out on a 100
Last few games have been extremely poor and one sided. I suspect this will be another one sided game. International and domestic quality just isn’t there this season
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Decent chase so far - possible recall to the aus team for wade? He’s been in good form in all formats
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Is it just me or is the standard down this year? Scores seem lower but the pitches dont look much different than usual
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Was saying the same the other day. Seems to be a lot of low scoring games, or games where it's not even a contest really. I like the BBL usually but it's been disappointing so far this around.
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You don’t get many great contests in this format so you don’t expect many. This format is usually pretty easy to predict and the BBL has never really been that good a quality tbf. It’s the most enjoyable and fun to watch though compared to the IPL and Blast.
That could just be me though.
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Watching the Scorchers vs Hurricans game and loving listening to Tuffers on commentary.
“Hope his mums sewed his pockets up this evening”
“ Bancroft wrote a letter to himself, what’s up with that has he got no friends”
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Quality of pitches and grounds has been extremely poor. Has the weather been poor in Australia or something? The outfields on these multipurpose stadiums are not up to scratch.
The quality of domestic Aussie players is no longer there, the cupboard is very bare. The international quality is also missing - the likes of narine, Russell and Gayle are not there. Only the afghan players are lifting the quality of this tournament and that says a lot
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Today's game on BT Sport's YouTube channel. Hope to see some Buttler fireworks shortly
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Quality of pitches and grounds has been extremely poor. Has the weather been poor in Australia or something? The outfields on these multipurpose stadiums are not up to scratch.
The quality of domestic Aussie players is no longer there, the cupboard is very bare. The international quality is also missing - the likes of narine, Russell and Gayle are not there. Only the afghan players are lifting the quality of this tournament and that says a lot
Anyone know why there are no WI players in BBL this year?
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Anyone know why there are no WI players in BBL this year?
Dwayne Bravo
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Chris Gayle still in the sin bin for bunging it on a female reporter. Don't blush baby.
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Jofra?
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Jofra?
He is English
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https://streamable.com/1dm4p
Jos <3
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He is English
hmmm
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The boys from the Caribbean opted to play in the Bangladeshi PL instead of the BBL
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Better standard
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hmmm
Hobart Hurricanes squad
Matthew Wade (c), Jofra Archer (England), George Bailey (c), Johan Botha, Jake Doran, James Faulkner, Caleb Jewell, Ben McDermott, Riley Meredith, Simon Milenko, Tymal Mills (England), David Moody, Tim Paine, Tom Rogers, Clive Rose, D’Arcy Short, Aaron Summers
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Hobart Hurricanes squad
Matthew Wade (c), Jofra Archer (England), George Bailey (c), Johan Botha, Jake Doran, James Faulkner, Caleb Jewell, Ben McDermott, Riley Meredith, Simon Milenko, Tymal Mills (England), David Moody, Tim Paine, Tom Rogers, Clive Rose, D’Arcy Short, Aaron Summers
Soon to include Pant? He kept up his side of the bargain
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Final game for Root/Buttler on BT Sport again https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VVUOM0jfpWs (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VVUOM0jfpWs)
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BMac trying to find some form after a few low scores.
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Final game for Root/Buttler on BT Sport again https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VVUOM0jfpWs (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VVUOM0jfpWs)
JP Gavan posting on Instagram and Snapchat his work on Joe Roots bats and also making him one
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This is some capitulation
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Apparently the big bash still has three weeks to go...!
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Seems to have gone on forever this year! Did it start later?
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More games have been added. I think cricket Australia have tried to cash in on its previous success by putting more games on, not sure if it has worked though.
I wonder what the comparison is between the BBL, IPL and Blast in terms of length of competition
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Wow3 weeks! Would’ve gone on for nearly 2 months! Definitely longer than the ipl
Cricket aus have ruined this tournament
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Big Bash 2017/18: 19th December -> 4th February = 48 days
IPL 2018: 7th April -> 27th May = 51 days
Vitality Blast 2018 (Group games to quarter finals*): 4th July -> 27th August = 55 days
Big Bash 2018/19: 19th December -> 17th February = 61 days
*I have only included fixtures up to Quarter Finals as there was a 19 day gap between that and Finals Day (15th September)
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all too long for what is supposed to be the shortest format!
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Apparently the big bash still has three weeks to go...!
That's nothing, the premier league has been going since August and still has 4 months to go.
Maybe someone should tell them there's such a thing as too much of a good thing and they'd be better off knocking our on the head in September.
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That's nothing, the premier league has been going since August and still has 4 months to go.
Maybe someone should tell them there's such a thing as too much of a good thing and they'd be better off knocking our on the head in September.
Premier League - 20 teams
IPl - 8 teams
🤔
Not to mention:
FA Cup
League Cup
Champions League
Europa League
International games
The season has to be that long to fit it all in.
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Final game for Root/Buttler on BT Sport again https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VVUOM0jfpWs (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VVUOM0jfpWs)
is it just me or is Joe busier in Test cricket than he is in T20s
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Premier League - 20 teams
IPl - 8 teams
🤔
Not to mention:
FA Cup
League Cup
Champions League
Europa League
International games
The season has to be that long to fit it all in.
So what you're saying is that the ipl is about 12 teams short.
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Big Bash 2017/18: 19th December -> 4th February = 48 days
IPL 2018: 7th April -> 27th May = 51 days
Vitality Blast 2018 (Group games to quarter finals*): 4th July -> 27th August = 55 days
Big Bash 2018/19: 19th December -> 17th February = 61 days
*I have only included fixtures up to Quarter Finals as there was a 19 day gap between that and Finals Day (15th September)
There is probably a correlation between length of 2020 tournament and the amount of quality players in it. Shorter the better I would think.. longer it is, the less quality
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That's nothing, the premier league has been going since August and still has 4 months to go.
Maybe someone should tell them there's such a thing as too much of a good thing and they'd be better off knocking our on the head in September.
Football is also infinitely more popular and in demand. Let’s be honest, the vast majority of people could care less about whatever format you want to push on them. Cricket just isn’t snd will never be popular regardless of format
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I believe the lower number of audience of cricket as a sports is due to soo many formats and its hard for a new-viewer or potential viewership to contemplate all these changes in each format and jargon used in cricket.
I think the negligence of T20 is due to belittlement of T20 cricket by former or past cricketers, which makes audience and the current cricket setup to think it as of a lesser format or not "true cricket". Example -I have heard same ex-cricketers criticizing T20 who were the part of Kerry Packer league who also left their national team to play in non recognized league for money now the same ex-players are saying that the money and glamour is hurting/harming the game and is not "true cricket", was that not the same case when they joined the Kerry Packer league.
To get new viewership the game should be less complicated for people to understand and follow, I too like Test cricket but tbh this is not same for everyone and more particularly for newer audience.
There are so many variation across all different format for a non follower to understand which makes it less appealing to newer audience.
If ICC wants to improve on the current state and declining popularity of the game then they should be making the game less complex, may be say good-bye to 50 overs games. And take T20 with more respect and be seriousness.
After all; the sports are for entertainment they should be left that way rather over complicating the things. ICC and local boards should work with local schools to promote inter school Tennis/tape ball T20 leagues in various countries. Having 1-2 odd matches or a league in places like North America will not grasp the new audience. Because in those places the crowd that is turning up to watch are the people from countries where cricket is already popular and this will not serve any purpose.
Having Tennis/tape ball tournaments will improve the knowledge and interest of the local public in say "non-cricketing" Nations.
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Watching the game tonight and seeing Vince bat it really makes me wonder how he wasnt able to nail down a Test spot. All the shots in the world, England have missed out
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Remember reading a piece not too long ago about the % of false shots played by each player in tests, Vince had one of the lower false shot percentages but one of the highest of dismissals from them. Can't remember the author, someone else may have read it and remember who wrote it.
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Remember reading a piece not too long ago about the % of false shots played by each player in tests, Vince had one of the lower false shot percentages but one of the highest of dismissals from them. Can't remember the author, someone else may have read it and remember who wrote it.
Shows the importance of luck. Someone like moeen who has an abundance of it. The Aussies also had the stat that Ali play’s and misses the most in international cricket
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I remember when the Big Bash was something for the blast to look up to, not entirely sure that’s the case anymore.
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BBL semi finals time - yes its still going on after 2 months!
Most overseas pros have left and gone home for international duty. Very poor tournament organisation from Cricket Aus.
The best team of the tournament - Hobart on the verge of going out. The top side should get rewarded and go straight into the finals, but the BBL prefer the semi final format
If the stars win this, its difficult to see them beaten in the finals. Maxwell and stonis seem to have hit form
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BBL used to be the best T20 comp in my opinion, but now it just goes on and on. The appeal for me was the 4/5 week period it was played.
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Just another example of the cricket administration seeing a cash cow and then milking it for all it's worth. There was talk even at the end of the last BBL season as to what affect the additional games would cause, for an English perspective watching the games through TV it seems the crowds have been massively down compared to previous years.
I think the BBL has a few issues that it needs to sort out:
1 - reduce the number of games being played so that the overall tournament length is shorter.
2- attract more A list stars to the competition. This issue is not helped by the rule that no Indian who is registered with an IPL franchise can play in another T20 tournament.
3- Make sure your test players also play in the tournament. It just boggles the mind sometimes when you see the BBL mixed in with international cricket. The Vitality blast is also guilty of this to be fair and only the IPL can be considered a truly worldwide tournament.
The BBl was once the 'model' tournament but that may no longer be the case. The 100 supports this statement in that the ECB feel they cannot simply copy and paste the BBL formula into the English scene, it needs to have an extra differentiating factor.
The world is now covered in franchise T20 leagues, each trying to get a slice of the action. If new tournaments continued to be added to the calendar, then the amount of quality on show will only decrease as international player participation is spread even thinner. The market will become so saturated that the smaller competitions will collapse.
I really do hope that Cricket Australia learn from this year but sadly if the figures suggest growth then there's no incentive from them do change anything come winter 2019
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Renegades have somehow managed to find their way into the finals.
Christian with a cameo to take his side home.
Sixers were missing Curran - odd that CA would arrange a tournament where most of the international players aren't available for the key semi's and finals.
Embarrassing for the BBL that the BPL had bigger international stars playing
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One of the best collapses Ive ever seen
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One of the best collapses Ive ever seen
An almost perfect allegory for the whole tournament.