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Title: Ashes 3rd test Perth
Post by: roco on December 15, 2010, 08:13:16 PM
So who watching it live tonight I personally will be going to bed shortly and getting back up what's everyone elses plan
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Post by: johnnyw on December 15, 2010, 08:17:58 PM
Going to bed soon and getting up at 2 and will watch until lunch and then will sleep through to tea then watch the last session
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Post by: golders on December 15, 2010, 08:26:51 PM
get up at 6.15 for work so will get up round 5am I think. I reckon Aus will go with the four quicks plus smith aand wtson. Does anyone know Smith's first class stats? Looks a useful if unconventional bat but not totally convinced by his bowling...
If Troy Cooley has managed to transform johnson in a couple of weeks i'd be very very surprised. Needs a good first over otherwise sweaty hands will kick in and he might turd his pants a little!

Can't wait.
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Post by: johan95 on December 15, 2010, 08:30:41 PM
Probably only watching last session and a bit before tea, but I'll rely on highlights :)
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Post by: essexarsenal on December 15, 2010, 10:29:51 PM
really good article would recommend reading it

http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/tomfordyce/2010/12/the_man_who_made_mr_cricket.html
Title: Re: Ashes 3rd test Perth
Post by: golders on December 15, 2010, 10:56:03 PM
really good article would recommend reading it

[url]http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/tomfordyce/2010/12/the_man_who_made_mr_cricket.html[/url]


Enjoyed that,cheers essex
Title: Re: Ashes 3rd test Perth
Post by: johan95 on December 15, 2010, 11:00:40 PM
Ditto ea: a very interesting and informative article. Though mike better get a pair, king pair would be the cherry on top!
Title: Re: Ashes 3rd test Perth
Post by: golders on December 16, 2010, 12:11:31 AM
I'm surprised david hussey never got a test call up. Still,if they keep on playing rubbish cricket he may make his debut yet- and i'd love to see him make his debut!
Title: Re: Ashes 3rd test Perth
Post by: roco on December 16, 2010, 02:08:14 AM
so what people think of the teams big toss to win me thinks and glad they went with the attacking option of tremlett but smith batting above haddin is a strange one any thoughts plus with north and katich out there is not even a part time spinner so smith will have to do some work
Title: Re: Ashes 3rd test Perth
Post by: mdl_1979 on December 16, 2010, 02:23:26 AM
Surprised that Strauss has won the toss and decided to bowl.  It's a very aggressive option - let's hope it pays off.
Title: Re: Ashes 3rd test Perth
Post by: roco on December 16, 2010, 02:37:39 AM
good decison was not out but great 1st ball from tremlett
Title: Re: Ashes 3rd test Perth
Post by: roco on December 16, 2010, 02:41:16 AM
see ya phil great shout on tremlett with new ball i would have gone finn but thats why i'm not england captain had to bowl first on that pitch the wicket is as green as the out field
Title: Re: Ashes 3rd test Perth
Post by: roco on December 16, 2010, 02:53:55 AM
cmon cmon thats the way have it
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Post by: Damo1583 on December 16, 2010, 02:58:36 AM
What a grab by Colly!!!!!
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Post by: mdl_1979 on December 16, 2010, 03:07:09 AM
Ridiculous from Colly.  Takes those on a routine basis, yet he's one of a handful of guys on the planet that can take that catch.
Title: Re: Ashes 3rd test Perth
Post by: Damo1583 on December 16, 2010, 03:09:19 AM
see ya Pup!!!!
Title: Re: Ashes 3rd test Perth
Post by: Damo1583 on December 16, 2010, 03:09:57 AM
Tremlett is on fire!!!!
Title: Re: Ashes 3rd test Perth
Post by: roco on December 16, 2010, 03:10:59 AM
great decision very glad they went attacking by selecting tremlett
Title: Re: Ashes 3rd test Perth
Post by: Damo1583 on December 16, 2010, 03:19:23 AM
great decision very glad they went attacking by selecting tremlett
leathal on that deck
Title: Re: Ashes 3rd test Perth
Post by: roco on December 16, 2010, 03:21:19 AM
the thing is height and bounce can trouble anyone on most pitches but he needs an extra 5mph to be a handful on flatter pitches but at perth the pitch is slower and not as bouncy as it used to be which is saying something but still a hit the deck surface
Title: Re: Ashes 3rd test Perth
Post by: roco on December 16, 2010, 03:48:39 AM
plum plum plum just give it have it
Title: Re: Ashes 3rd test Perth
Post by: roco on December 16, 2010, 06:18:48 AM
Had to be something there prior was too confident calked for the review before the umpire said not out
Title: Re: Ashes 3rd test Perth
Post by: Rik on December 16, 2010, 06:53:37 AM
Was it a thick edge? I didn't see it.

You would think with the review system in place you would save yourself some time and just walk. But I guess they did miss the edge on Harris first golden duck not too long ago!
Title: Re: Ashes 3rd test Perth
Post by: roco on December 16, 2010, 06:56:13 AM
It was a thin edge but prior was too confident so he must of heard something

Plus Watson tried to save himself with the review and was close to out side the line on review tbh
Title: Re: Ashes 3rd test Perth
Post by: Rik on December 16, 2010, 06:57:43 AM
Yeah, I saw the Watson review.

If he had been given not out and England had reviewed it, it would have been not out according to the on field decision. Strange part of the review system in my eyes.
Title: Re: Ashes 3rd test Perth
Post by: roco on December 16, 2010, 07:00:56 AM
It is strange but I guess it's down to the slight degree of fallibility of the tech and this visual eye is less accurate than hawkeye but goes both ways
Title: Re: Ashes 3rd test Perth
Post by: Rik on December 16, 2010, 07:06:02 AM
Definitely goes both ways.
Title: Re: Ashes 3rd test Perth
Post by: roco on December 16, 2010, 07:42:39 AM
Here we go then it's the bowlers turn
Title: Re: Ashes 3rd test Perth
Post by: Rik on December 16, 2010, 07:48:31 AM
Harris survives the first ball! :)
Title: Re: Ashes 3rd test Perth
Post by: roco on December 16, 2010, 07:51:51 AM
Next please
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Post by: Ayrtek Cricket on December 16, 2010, 08:10:55 AM
nice little treat to wake upto 8 down and still 30 over left in the day!
Title: Re: Ashes 3rd test Perth
Post by: roco on December 16, 2010, 08:24:42 AM
Is it just me or is siddle a better bat than Harris
The Aussies have got the order wrong in ny opinion
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Post by: Jeet on December 16, 2010, 08:26:21 AM
Is it just me or is siddle a better bat than Harris
The Aussies have got the order wrong in ny opinion
In F/C Harris has 4 50s, highest score of 94
Title: Re: Ashes 3rd test Perth
Post by: roco on December 16, 2010, 08:29:01 AM
Well in tests he has sod all at least siddle looks like hitting the ball Harris looks like he does not know which way around the bat goes
Title: Re: Ashes 3rd test Perth
Post by: eaowbear on December 16, 2010, 08:43:36 AM
And another one...cheerio, Johnson! Got up this morning to find them 6 down - what a start!
Title: Re: Ashes 3rd test Perth
Post by: johan95 on December 16, 2010, 08:48:31 AM
Got up this morning to find them 6 down - what a start!
Same here! If we can just negotiate the new ball when we bat, we'll get a good score up, and should be able to win on the 5th morning!
Title: Re: Ashes 3rd test Perth
Post by: peplow on December 16, 2010, 08:51:59 AM
Same here! If we can just negotiate the new ball when we bat, we'll get a good score up, and should be able to win on the 5th morning!

tomorrow is day two, why does that mean we should win on 5th morning loL!
Title: Re: Ashes 3rd test Perth
Post by: johan95 on December 16, 2010, 08:52:54 AM
Oh whoops 4th morning my bad.
Title: Re: Ashes 3rd test Perth
Post by: peplow on December 16, 2010, 08:56:39 AM
still not getting it ;)

But hope you are right!
Title: Re: Ashes 3rd test Perth
Post by: johan95 on December 16, 2010, 08:59:04 AM
Lol, I'll explain: they'll be bowled out today. Well have 40-0 hopefulyl by the end of the day. Bat for days 2 and 1/2 of day 3 and bowl them out by the 4th morning.
Johan  ;)
Title: Re: Ashes 3rd test Perth
Post by: Tumo on December 16, 2010, 09:00:49 AM
In F/C Harris has 4 50s, highest score of 94
Glenn McGrath has 2 FC 50's, is he better than James Anderson as a batsman who has neither?
Title: Re: Ashes 3rd test Perth
Post by: Jeet on December 16, 2010, 09:01:43 AM
Maybe Oz should rejig their order and swap Punter and Clarke with Siddle and Hilfy...
Title: Re: Ashes 3rd test Perth
Post by: Jeet on December 16, 2010, 09:02:20 AM
Glenn McGrath has 2 FC 50's, is he better than James Anderson as a batsman who has neither?
Couldn't care less
Title: Re: Ashes 3rd test Perth
Post by: roco on December 16, 2010, 09:03:20 AM
I think they should start with Hardin and hussey higher up first best two players by a distance for aus
Title: Re: Ashes 3rd test Perth
Post by: Buzz on December 16, 2010, 09:10:04 AM
268 all out - If you offered me that yesterday I would have bitten your arm off - just need a good session for the openers for a perfect day... fingers crossed.
Title: Re: Ashes 3rd test Perth
Post by: Canners on December 16, 2010, 09:14:59 AM
Strauss has ditched the legend :0
Title: Re: Ashes 3rd test Perth
Post by: Damo1583 on December 16, 2010, 09:18:14 AM
Strauss has ditched the legend :0
Proberbly wanted a lighter profile for the bouncier track at Perth
Title: Re: Ashes 3rd test Perth
Post by: Canners on December 16, 2010, 09:35:50 AM
Thought it might have been a case of change your bat change your luck
Title: Re: Ashes 3rd test Perth
Post by: Tumo on December 16, 2010, 09:39:36 AM
Couldn't care less
Stats don't mean everything.

Cook looks solid, Strauss easing his way back into things.
Title: Re: Ashes 3rd test Perth
Post by: eaowbear on December 16, 2010, 11:12:00 AM
http://www.guardian.co.uk/sport/blog/2010/dec/16/ashes-cricket

Scroll down a bit to click on the youtube link for Collingwood's catch - unbelievable. The man is a hero and for it to be Ponting makes it even sweeter!
Title: Re: Ashes 3rd test Perth
Post by: eaowbear on December 16, 2010, 11:13:21 AM
And if you want a still shot of the catch:

http://www.espncricinfo.com/the-ashes-2010-11/content/current/story/492800.html

Title: Re: Ashes 3rd test Perth
Post by: Canners on December 16, 2010, 11:14:33 AM
that was a blinder, Collingwoods such a class fielder
Title: Re: Ashes 3rd test Perth
Post by: jonpinson on December 16, 2010, 11:24:56 AM
Couldn't care less

Why post then? No really? :D
Title: Re: Ashes 3rd test Perth
Post by: Kulli on December 16, 2010, 12:25:33 PM
Glenn McGrath has 2 FC 50's, is he better than James Anderson as a batsman who has neither?
Anderson may well have a couple for 50's by the time he retires though.
Title: Re: Ashes 3rd test Perth
Post by: Jeet on December 16, 2010, 12:53:39 PM
If someone with no shots like Dizzy Gillespie can score a double ton, there's hope for everyone.

On a side note, the decline of Ponting is very sad to witness. Once he was the most feared batsman around, I'd stay more feared than Hayden, Gilchrist, Sehwag, Gayle etc.

I wonder if he regrets not retiring after the WC2007?
Title: Re: Ashes 3rd test Perth
Post by: eaowbear on December 16, 2010, 03:35:04 PM
Aussie media reaction to the day's play - 'It's total and utter chaos, Kissing The Ashes Goodbye' amongst others...

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/cricket/international/theashes/8206804/Australian-medias-Ashes-reaction-Its-total-and-utter-chaos.html
Title: Re: Ashes 3rd test Perth
Post by: lovers99 on December 17, 2010, 04:16:54 AM
5 wickets in the half hour I get up in,I'm off back to bed-I'm cursed
Title: Re: Ashes 3rd test Perth
Post by: Rik on December 17, 2010, 04:25:51 AM
Stay up lovers99! Keep the test interesting! :)
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Post by: Riddy on December 17, 2010, 05:48:02 AM
gutted for prior... worst way to get out
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Post by: Johnny on December 17, 2010, 06:12:17 AM
he didn't look very comfortable against the short stuff to be honest. Maybe because with men out on the hook he couldn't go after it
Title: Re: Ashes 3rd test Perth
Post by: Jeet on December 17, 2010, 07:06:05 AM
In their hour of need, Johnson rediscovers himself. When he bowls like this he's fantastic. Top stuff
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Post by: mdl_1979 on December 17, 2010, 07:08:04 AM
World class when he has an inswinger.  Village when he doesn't.
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Post by: will5210 on December 17, 2010, 08:27:50 AM
Ponting must be due a score. What odds a career saving, match winning ton?
Title: Re: Ashes 3rd test Perth
Post by: will5210 on December 17, 2010, 08:45:16 AM
Ponting must be due a score. What odds a career saving, match winning ton?

He's out - good times!

Title: Re: Ashes 3rd test Perth
Post by: Beachcricket on December 17, 2010, 09:41:39 AM
 :o What the bloomin heck has happened?
Title: Re: Ashes 3rd test Perth
Post by: GJ on December 17, 2010, 11:20:17 AM
Good to see Johnson has got some form back with bat and ball, should make for a great end to the series. I think this game has gone now for England, can't see us chasing anything more than 300 on that pitch. Unless we roll them for not much tomorrow morning... Just looks like its a bowler friendly wicket now.
Title: Re: Ashes 3rd test Perth
Post by: Buzz on December 17, 2010, 11:24:49 AM
Good to see Johnson has got some form back with bat and ball, should make for a great end to the series. I think this game has gone now for England, can't see us chasing anything more than 300 on that pitch. Unless we roll them for not much tomorrow morning... Just looks like its a bowler friendly wicket now.
Have more faith - SA chased 400 on this pitch. Johnson got lots of confidence from his batting and from the highlights seems to have had a golden spell or two today.
Aus have a lead of 200 - but will want to have a lead of over 500 before they declare. That will mean batting, if they can, all of tomorrow and maybe some of day 4 to put us out of the match. If they do that then a draw is the best we can hope for. If, however, we bowl them out for a lead 300-350 I would put a tenner on us chasing that as the pitch is getting better...
Title: Re: Ashes 3rd test Perth
Post by: Byo on December 17, 2010, 11:39:45 AM
Think we will struggle to chase anything over 250 - we seem to have a real problem batting on fast bouncy pitches.  Hope I am wrong though!!
Title: Re: Ashes 3rd test Perth
Post by: Kulara on December 17, 2010, 11:40:34 AM
I agree Buzz. Ponting will want as big a lead as possible.  Only need to look at England's second innings in Brisbane and first innings in Adelaide to see what can happen if the track flattens.
Title: Re: Ashes 3rd test Perth
Post by: andeke11 on December 17, 2010, 11:45:06 AM
Was a good day at the cricket today, 13 wickets in one day, great value for money.

England need quick wickets tomorrow to get rid of this partnership, the pitch is only getting better, watson and hussey are showing that runs are to be had on this pitch and i wouldn't be surprised if england chased down anything up to 420.
Title: Re: Ashes 3rd test Perth
Post by: roco on December 17, 2010, 11:51:43 AM
I have faith as our 2nd innings batting is always better for some unknown reason and we have proven we can dig in and fight hard when we need to but failures for ponting and Clarke again cue the press
Title: Re: Ashes 3rd test Perth
Post by: uknsaunders on December 17, 2010, 11:53:58 AM
I don't think many of the dismissals had much to do with the pitch. Gun Barrell straight johnson finding a huge sea breeze that even he could swing it in was more the problem. That and batsman getting their pads in the way...

Perth has a recent history of getting flatter. If england have a bit of luck and polish Aus off as the track flattens then who knows?
Title: Re: Ashes 3rd test Perth
Post by: andeke11 on December 17, 2010, 11:59:56 AM
Surviving the new ball will be key for england, if they can get through only 2 or 3 down then batting should get a lot easier as it has done this innings for Australia.
Title: Re: Ashes 3rd test Perth
Post by: 100 not out on December 17, 2010, 02:55:32 PM
cricket is a funny game . . . . anything can happen.

Aussies were down and out last nite, but are back in it today.

I just like to see a contest. . . i hate one sided games/series.
Title: Re: Ashes 3rd test Perth
Post by: golders on December 17, 2010, 07:00:01 PM
Id love to know the stuff troy cooley worked on with Johnson, to rediscover both his inswinger and accuracy in a couple of weeks is impressive work- just shows what a difference top coaching makes. No doubt the 50 helped his confidence no end.
I think we are gonna lose this one, which should keep the grounds full and us all excited- and an even contest makes good viewing. What i'd really like to see is Aus still play well but England to be so damn good we blloming kill 'em!
Also, Collingwood can't buy a run at the mo, do you think him and Bell should swap?Don't think they will drop Coll, they seem to be using his bowling a fair bit too. Took a pretty useful catch in this test too!
Title: Re: Ashes 3rd test Perth
Post by: roco on December 18, 2010, 07:50:12 AM
Well done tremlett fully justified the selection this will either be a good game and chase or a complete collapse I think
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Post by: charlie_bendall on December 18, 2010, 08:44:40 AM
Oh dear
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Post by: Rik on December 18, 2010, 08:49:25 AM
Anything could happen, still plenty of time left in the match...!
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Post by: Byo on December 18, 2010, 09:25:33 AM
Not a hope I am afraid - cant bat on fast bouncy wickets!!  Still think we will win the series though...
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Post by: pacman75cricket on December 18, 2010, 09:29:27 AM
Just need a big partnership, partnerships are key.

But signs not great
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Post by: andeke11 on December 18, 2010, 09:31:20 AM
i think its game over

but i would love to be proved wrong
Title: Re: Ashes 3rd test Perth
Post by: Rik on December 18, 2010, 10:05:10 AM
Collingwood set up by the short one, caught at slip off Harris. Anderson should have taken the single on offer...

Looks as though the series should end up level.

Title: Re: Ashes 3rd test Perth
Post by: 100 not out on December 18, 2010, 10:10:30 AM
This is a good batting surface that scorecard isnt justified by the pitch.
The aussies have the momentum now. one bad session in the first innings cost england the match.

Game on at the MCG. i love a contest.
Title: Re: Ashes 3rd test Perth
Post by: Beachcricket on December 18, 2010, 10:14:03 AM
This is very disappointing but it was on the cards since day 2 when we conceded a deficit. They've batted like they're playing on a minefield.

I haven't seen todays wickets yet, good balls or bad shots?
Title: Re: Ashes 3rd test Perth
Post by: Jacky on December 18, 2010, 11:18:22 AM
England show their true colours.
Title: Re: Ashes 3rd test Perth
Post by: Riddy on December 18, 2010, 11:32:34 AM
bad shots
Title: Re: Ashes 3rd test Perth
Post by: alexrickyponting on December 18, 2010, 11:40:57 AM
englands batting coach graham gooch said a bit of both
Title: Re: Ashes 3rd test Perth
Post by: GJ on December 18, 2010, 11:50:43 AM
Game gone now, as it was yesterday, look forward to Melbourne. Harris bowled well but there were a few wickets where players played away from the body, Pietersen the biggest culprit.

Hussey is in such good form at the moment. Anyone think he is one of the best players of spin at the moment? Took swann to pieces yesterday and had control over all of our bowlers.
Title: Re: Ashes 3rd test Perth
Post by: Beachcricket on December 18, 2010, 11:55:59 AM
I've just seen KP's dismissal, if I was in the dressing room I would go over and slap him. Irresponsible shots, apart from Cook and Strauss I think everyone else could have left theirs.

Swann is struggling to find his length, combined with Hussey and Haddin using their feet makes bowling difficult. What's annoying is that England looked like they'd never seen swing and bounce before in the 1st innings.
Title: Re: Ashes 3rd test Perth
Post by: Johng on December 18, 2010, 12:05:08 PM
I have tickets for day 2 and 3 of the MCG Boxing Day test and it is looking like it will be 1 a piece.

So all goes well for a tough battle but the English will enjoy the MCG deck a little more than the WACA unless the MCG curator can weave some magic LOL!!
Title: Re: Ashes 3rd test Perth
Post by: alexrickyponting on December 18, 2010, 12:09:38 PM
I've just seen KP's dismissal, if I was in the dressing room I would go over and slap him. Irresponsible shots, apart from Cook and Strauss I think everyone else could have left theirs.

Swann is struggling to find his length, combined with Hussey and Haddin using their feet makes bowling difficult. What's annoying is that England looked like they'd never seen swing and bounce before in the 1st innings.

Personally i think that Swann is mainly struggling to find his length due to the way that Hussey has played him right from the off, I think the second ball Husset faced from Swann in the 1st test went for 6 and Husseys second ball in the second innings went for 4 over the top. Hussey has been using his feet to Swann really well, which is not something i can recall seeing many if any other batsmen doing recently.
I feel Swann has been shown far too much respect by batsmen until this Ashes series, it's nice to see a world-class batsmen taking on a world-class spinner in a dominating and sggressive fashion. Hopefully Swann might get a little used to it and we could see some good duels between the pair in the rest of the tests.
Although i wouldnt mind seeing Hussey continue to dominate Swann and win back the Ashes  :D
Title: Re: Ashes 3rd test Perth
Post by: Johnny on December 18, 2010, 02:29:36 PM
Irresponsible shots, apart from Cook and Strauss I think everyone else could have left theirs.

The ball before Trott was out was a big inswinger, so I think he had to play at his too
Title: Re: Ashes 3rd test Perth
Post by: mattwhitfield17 on December 18, 2010, 03:18:26 PM
Im taking a longshot here, a massive one - England will win, Bell Prior and Swann will win it for us.
Title: Re: Ashes 3rd test Perth
Post by: Howzat on December 18, 2010, 03:19:28 PM
Matt... I wish I shared your optimism
Title: Re: Ashes 3rd test Perth
Post by: mattwhitfield17 on December 18, 2010, 03:20:25 PM
Matt... I wish I shared your optimism

i just have a funny feeling, bell is in terrific form, prior is due a score, and Swann will come out and play some shots, Probably wrong though..
Title: Re: Ashes 3rd test Perth
Post by: Colesy on December 18, 2010, 03:22:16 PM
Bell is in too. This target isn't impossible.

Especially with an inconsistent bowling attack.
Title: Re: Ashes 3rd test Perth
Post by: mattwhitfield17 on December 18, 2010, 03:23:50 PM
Bell is in too. This target isn't impossible.

Especially with an inconsistent bowling attack.

Coulden't agree more - It's by no means impossible, Johnson & Siddle are hit and miss so we shall see.
Title: Re: Ashes 3rd test Perth
Post by: Beachcricket on December 18, 2010, 04:30:33 PM
The ball before Trott was out was a big inswinger, so I think he had to play at his too

Okay, I'll let him off then but I stand by my choice to slap KP, I'd take a run up as well.
Title: Re: Ashes 3rd test Perth
Post by: hit4six on December 18, 2010, 04:48:14 PM
I think I am being a bit optimistic but I have had a £5 bet at the bookies for England to still win at 14/1. Albeit, another 300 runs to get, but still got Bell who is in the form of his life, Prior who hit a ton last week and Swanny can hold a bat.... Optimistic I know!
Title: Re: Ashes 3rd test Perth
Post by: mattwhitfield17 on December 18, 2010, 04:49:34 PM
I think I am being a bit optimistic but I have had a £5 bet at the bookies for England to still win at 14/1. Albeit, another 300 runs to get, but still got Bell who is in the form of his life, Prior who hit a ton last week and Swanny can hold a bat.... Optimistic I know!

I've got £10 on England winning
Title: Re: Ashes 3rd test Perth
Post by: Mr Cricket on December 18, 2010, 04:56:18 PM
5 dismissals from very poor shots, bell and prior need to make tons if we are to keep this alive.

if England have any aspirations to win this test, or this series they should watch mike hussey on video over and over again and learn some lessons

how to be positive without being over-aggressive

how to leave outside off stump

how to never give your wicket away and have the attitude and dedication to value your wicket

and so on
Title: Re: Ashes 3rd test Perth
Post by: PM7 on December 18, 2010, 05:01:24 PM
Fantastic fightback from Australia. It does really take only one poor session to lose a Test match.
The Aussies got mauled by their press for their previous displays, will the British press do the same or put it down as a blip?
Johnson has turned a corner and with Hussey and Watson is super nick this could get very interesting.
The MCG is going to be buzzing
Title: Re: Ashes 3rd test Perth
Post by: Colesy on December 18, 2010, 05:08:31 PM
If it goes down to the final test at Sydney then I think England will win because our team is more suited to the Sydney track than Australia's atm
Title: Re: Ashes 3rd test Perth
Post by: Jeet on December 18, 2010, 05:17:07 PM
If it goes down to the final test at Sydney then I think England will win because our team is more suited to the Sydney track than Australia's atm
The pitches at the SCG have had more grass left on them this season and seamers have got majority of the wickets.
Title: Re: Ashes 3rd test Perth
Post by: procricket on December 18, 2010, 06:30:54 PM
Jeet



Seamers have not taken most of the wickets at the Scg in domestic cricket at all

In some innings Hauritz has even opened the bowling and Steve Smith took 8 wickets the last first class game there
and in another innings took 7 in a innings between O'Keefe,,Hauritz,,Smith they have taken there fair share of wickets when there selected...

It sure is a results pitch though...

Looks like it will be 1-1 oh well lets see what England are made of my 50 notes at England 3-1 is still looking good

Title: Re: Ashes 3rd test Perth
Post by: procricket on December 18, 2010, 06:37:32 PM
the future Ricky Ponting

or Hayden


http://www.espncricinfo.com/newsouthwales/content/player/333780.html
Title: Re: Ashes 3rd test Perth
Post by: Jeet on December 18, 2010, 08:14:52 PM
Jeet

Seamers have not taken most of the wickets at the Scg in domestic cricket at all

68 F/C wickets have fallen at the SCG this season. 18 to spinners and 50 to seamers.

Anyway it should definitely be result pitch
Title: Re: Ashes 3rd test Perth
Post by: mattwhitfield17 on December 18, 2010, 08:26:10 PM
Anyone staying up to watch? Snowed in so having a few cans and waiting up, ive got £10 on an england win at 16/1 so fingers crossed ;)
Title: Re: Ashes 3rd test Perth
Post by: Colesy on December 18, 2010, 08:27:07 PM
I'll try to
Title: Re: Ashes 3rd test Perth
Post by: johnnyw on December 18, 2010, 08:30:42 PM
Ive watched the 1st and 3rd session of each day so far. Will watch it for as long as it takes for 5 wickets to fall tonight
Title: Re: Ashes 3rd test Perth
Post by: procricket on December 18, 2010, 08:41:28 PM

Jeet

Because iam bored and had enough of your so called cricket brains and all and your all round ignorance to anything not India



here you go

I will stay up and watch the battle lost but not the war...



Match 1....

http://www.espncricinfo.com/ausdomestic-2010/engine/match/474034.html

15 wickets taken by spinners in the match


http://www.espncricinfo.com/ausdomestic-2010/engine/match/474028.html

4 wickets taken by spinners in the match

http://www.espncricinfo.com/ausdomestic-2010/engine/match/474027.html

10 wickets taken by spinners in the match


68 F/C wickets have fallen at the SCG this season. 18 to spinners and 50 to seamers.

Anyway it should definitely be result pitch


Sorry mate i being childish but your facts are slightly wrong here


Title: Re: Ashes 3rd test Perth
Post by: mattwhitfield17 on December 18, 2010, 08:44:51 PM
Jeet

Because iam bored and had enough of your so called cricket brains and all and your all round ignorance to anything not India



here you go

I will stay up and watch the battle lost but not the war...



Match 1....

[url]http://www.espncricinfo.com/ausdomestic-2010/engine/match/474034.html[/url]

15 wickets taken by spinners in the match


[url]http://www.espncricinfo.com/ausdomestic-2010/engine/match/474028.html[/url]

4 wickets taken by spinners in the match

[url]http://www.espncricinfo.com/ausdomestic-2010/engine/match/474027.html[/url]

10 wickets taken by spinners in the match


Sorry mate i being childish but your facts are slightly wrong here


haha! you on the snakebites tonight by any chance? ;)
Title: Re: Ashes 3rd test Perth
Post by: procricket on December 18, 2010, 08:50:21 PM
nope Jeet is a good lad and knowledgeable big time he just try's to bring anything India into things and will tell you India are better than anybody that anybody who plays for them is better and anybody who doesn't is not better than anybody in India's team..

The forum is better for people like him who talk cricket as well as equipment all the time

I admire you patriotic way and India make good beer Tiger it bloody good on a cold night..
 
Title: Re: Ashes 3rd test Perth
Post by: golders on December 18, 2010, 09:13:17 PM
It's true, jeet wows me with his stats sometimes, can never be bothered to check if they are correct though!Blatantly has cricinfo on favourites...
Title: Re: Ashes 3rd test Perth
Post by: golders on December 18, 2010, 10:13:11 PM
Do you guys think we (England) will make any changes with this test lost, barring a miracle? I don't think they will personally, but if Colly doesn't make runs in the next 2 i think his days are numbered.bell should move up to 5.
Title: Re: Ashes 3rd test Perth
Post by: Mr Cricket on December 18, 2010, 10:17:40 PM
collingwood would be perfect at 6 to frustrate opposition batting with the tail, bell would move up to 5.
Title: Re: Ashes 3rd test Perth
Post by: Liam-SCCC on December 18, 2010, 10:24:22 PM
collingwood out hildreth in? hildreth bat at 4, pietersen 5 and bell 6
Title: Re: Ashes 3rd test Perth
Post by: golders on December 18, 2010, 10:28:50 PM
Nah, i'd say Morgan was next in line to have another crack, but prob not in this series
Title: Re: Ashes 3rd test Perth
Post by: mattwhitfield17 on December 18, 2010, 10:32:28 PM
What about Davies? There was talk about him playing as a batsman..
Title: Re: Ashes 3rd test Perth
Post by: johnnyw on December 18, 2010, 10:41:54 PM
Wonder who will come in for ponting for the rest of the series....If I was a selector I would drop Clarke and give captaincy to Haddin.
Title: Re: Ashes 3rd test Perth
Post by: Jeet on December 18, 2010, 11:07:37 PM
Collingwood out, Bresnan in. Extra fast bowler would be ideal, as Finn seemed to be blowing a tad during this Test.
Title: Re: Ashes 3rd test Perth
Post by: Jeet on December 18, 2010, 11:08:38 PM
Jeet

Because iam bored and had enough of your so called cricket brains and all and your all round ignorance to anything not India



here you go

I will stay up and watch the battle lost but not the war...



Match 1....

[url]http://www.espncricinfo.com/ausdomestic-2010/engine/match/474034.html[/url]

15 wickets taken by spinners in the match


[url]http://www.espncricinfo.com/ausdomestic-2010/engine/match/474028.html[/url]

4 wickets taken by spinners in the match

[url]http://www.espncricinfo.com/ausdomestic-2010/engine/match/474027.html[/url]

10 wickets taken by spinners in the match


Sorry mate i being childish but your facts are slightly wrong here




Sorry my mistake, I missed the NSW vs Vics game.
Title: Re: Ashes 3rd test Perth
Post by: mattwhitfield17 on December 19, 2010, 03:07:08 AM
Any slight hope is now gone..
Title: Re: Ashes 3rd test Perth
Post by: Johng on December 19, 2010, 03:12:56 AM
Now on to the MCG.

Title: Re: Ashes 3rd test Perth
Post by: mars on December 19, 2010, 03:24:07 AM
Happy Birthday Ricky Ponting. Good Birthday present for him eh? No wonder he's so happy!
Title: Re: Ashes 3rd test Perth
Post by: Mr Cricket on December 19, 2010, 03:24:34 AM
very average from England, never looked like putting partnerships together or making breakthroughs with the ball, outplayed totally and cant blame the pitch - big improvement needed in Melbourne.
Title: Re: Ashes 3rd test Perth
Post by: 100 not out on December 19, 2010, 09:25:50 AM
The fact that Eng's batting crumbled twice in this game must be a concern. MCG takes spin though.
Title: Re: Ashes 3rd test Perth
Post by: Beachcricket on December 19, 2010, 11:24:18 AM
The fact that Eng's batting crumbled twice in this game must be a concern.

Exactly my worry as well, I think if we don't win the next one we'll lose the series as I worry we'll start thinking about drawing matches and not be able to stop more collapses.
Title: Re: Ashes 3rd test Perth
Post by: langer17 on December 19, 2010, 12:04:24 PM
2 up and coming players for aus, Nic Maddison and Chris Lynn, remember those names. Lynn is 2 top run score in FC over here and madison is top 4 or 5. Not bad for a 20 (Lynn) and 18 (Maddison) year old.

Interesting that in Australia, Hussey averages above 100 against spin where as overseas he only averages around 39 agains it.
Title: Re: Ashes 3rd test Perth
Post by: roco on December 19, 2010, 12:07:38 PM
We will fight again bring it on
Title: Re: Ashes 3rd test Perth
Post by: 400notout on December 19, 2010, 12:10:28 PM
Wonder who will come in for ponting for the rest of the series....If I was a selector I would drop Clarke and give captaincy to Haddin.
Haddin is playing well, keep the pressure off Clarke and Huss. Drop Hughes (as much as thats harsh) put clarke up to open and bring in North to captain the side
Title: Re: Ashes 3rd test Perth
Post by: GJ on December 19, 2010, 12:18:21 PM
Ponting will be ready for the MCG, he'll play no matter what. Did a similar thing after the injury he got off Kemar Roach...
I think we're overreacting a bit here. Australia bowled very well during this test with Johnson finding some form and Harris bowling superbly. Few bad shots here and there but mostly just bowling from the aussies. The team is fine, no changes needed, it was good enough to win at Adelaide so why not at MCG. Would back us to win at MCG as it takes spin where we have swann and the aussies only having the "batsman" smith...
Title: Re: Ashes 3rd test Perth
Post by: Buzz on December 19, 2010, 12:53:26 PM
Ponting will play even if he has to get his finger amputated.
Title: Re: Ashes 3rd test Perth
Post by: johan95 on December 19, 2010, 01:02:40 PM
I hear the Aussies are changing the pitch at the mcg to one with a green top, looking for a repeat of the events at Perth..
Title: Re: Ashes 3rd test Perth
Post by: Jacky on December 20, 2010, 03:56:52 AM
I hear the Aussies are changing the pitch at the mcg to one with a green top, looking for a repeat of the events at Perth..

Good on em!
Title: Re: Ashes 3rd test Perth
Post by: Beachcricket on December 20, 2010, 09:09:39 AM
Isn't it a drop in pitch? getting extra pace and bounce out of that will be tough, they may overcook it and create a spinners wicket.
Title: Re: Ashes 3rd test Perth
Post by: Buzz on December 20, 2010, 09:13:37 AM
Not sure the change in pitch is going to make a bit of a difference, realistically it will be a result wicket and it is the ground in Aus where Eng have the least bad record (!)

All to play for!
Title: Re: Ashes 3rd test Perth
Post by: 400notout on December 20, 2010, 01:05:54 PM
Hauritz just hit his second FC Ton, he can bat at three! Also someone mentioned Maddinson, he got 137
Title: Re: Ashes 3rd test Perth
Post by: GJ on December 20, 2010, 01:15:03 PM
Theres talk that Finn may be rested too, due to suffering exhaustion in the last test. That would dent our bowling attack a fair amount as although he's been expensive, he has taken a lot of wickets.
That may mean bringing meado man Bresnan into the side which i am not happy about!!

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/cricket/england/9304224.stm
Title: Re: Ashes 3rd test Perth
Post by: johnnyw on December 20, 2010, 01:16:05 PM
Aus should bring in David Warner to opening and do a Sehwag, Tamim Iqbal or Dilshan job
Title: Re: Ashes 3rd test Perth
Post by: justnotcricket86 on December 20, 2010, 01:33:52 PM
I would love to see Morgan get a shout over Colly, I am really trying to justify his place but other than his fielding, I can't really. I thought he might pull out a performance in the second innings like Cardiff last year but he had a shocker
Title: Re: Ashes 3rd test Perth
Post by: Mr Cricket on December 20, 2010, 04:48:18 PM
id like to see shahzad in for his ability against left handers (hussey), straight swap for finn

team otherwise should remain the same but with bell moving up to 5 and collingwood down to 6
Title: Re: Ashes 3rd test Perth
Post by: Buzz on December 20, 2010, 04:51:14 PM
I would put Bell at 4 an move KP back to 5 which is where he has been at his best and Colly at 6 - I don't think dropping Colly is the right thing to do at them moment because he brings so much else to the team, plus as we are playing 4 bowlers the 10 overs a day he can produce helps as well as his match winning catching.

Morgan will get his chance.
Title: Re: Ashes 3rd test Perth
Post by: Mr Cricket on December 20, 2010, 04:54:34 PM
what about the bowlers buzz? would you make any changes to our attack?

also - if youve got time could you PM me, thanks
Title: Re: Ashes 3rd test Perth
Post by: Buzz on December 20, 2010, 05:26:22 PM
what about the bowlers buzz? would you make any changes to our attack?

also - if youve got time could you PM me, thanks
PM sent

Finn looks shattered and I think they will wait and see what the pitch looks like at the MCG before they decide on any changes - I still think they will prefer Bresnen over Shahzad if they make a change, but I haven't seen either bowl recently so would know who would be the better bet. Obviously Bres brings more all round, which is why they will pick him. Shahzad, I think, is probably a better bowler for a test match.

But Finn is the leading wicket taker in the series...
Title: Re: Ashes 3rd test Perth
Post by: Mr Cricket on December 20, 2010, 05:43:54 PM
can we afford somebody to go at 5 an over, even if they are taking wickets? thats up to flower and strauss i suppose.

somebody with the proven ability to torment left handers such as shahzad must be an attractive prospect given the current form of mike hussey