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General Cricket => Latest Matches => Topic started by: mattw on February 08, 2011, 02:44:08 PM
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So, Eoin Morgan is out of the WC squad with Ravi Bopara replacing him.
Best player to replace him?
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Possibly - Hildreth and James Taylor are both in better form having been outstanding in the West Indies domestic competiton. Having said that Ravi Bop has experience of playing 2 IPL's and is an experienced one day player who can bowl some useful overs so I can understand the decision. Not sure who is the best fielder.
Big chance for Ravi Bop to get his Test place back too...
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Strauss
Bell
Trott
KP
CollingwoodPrior
Bresnan
Yardy
Swann
Broad
Anderson
Bet Colly is happy....
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Didn't Strauss say that Prior WILL be opening the batting for England in the WC?
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Anyone see Broad's Twitter? New Eng kits sorta revealed. And he's lost his hair!!!
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Yeah looks really weird not the pin up now but kit looked bright
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Bresnan really isn't good enough to be batting at 6. IMO he is a bog standard county player, no spark.
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Looks like England have got a new kit for the WC. Much like the SA adidas kit but dark blue and red - (http://static.ecb.co.uk/images/width70/strauss-headshot-1326511.jpg) (cant find any other pics of it as of yet).
Also, does anyone know if there are any highlights sorted for the World Cup that aren't on sky?
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I've been waiting for a new kit to come out, can't find the other one anywhere!
I THINK ITV4 have them mate, given they had the IPL and Ashes
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Yeah the new kit hasn't been unveiled or anything yet, but im guessing with the 2010 odi kit on sale on the official store and with new training gear + these pictures on the ecb site + new adidas kits for the WC then these are it. Poor kits in my opinion.
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I would have preferred them to keep the most recent shirt but trying to find it in a M/L is a nightmare, sold out everywhere
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Scrap that mate, just found it for £25
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highlights are on BBC
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I picked up the 'current' ODI shirt back in November for £35 in Sports Direct. Should've waited :/
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Thanks Johnny, just found the schedule for the highlights on the bbc
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/cricket/4923160.stm (http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/cricket/4923160.stm)
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wow anyone seen the scorecard against canada today ? canada need 16 off 4 overs to beat us but they are 9 down !
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canada all out. but england, really need to step it up a gear or two !!
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Pietersen opening the batting for the rest of the world cup?! Shambles
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Worth a go
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Better than Prior opening in my opinion.
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It's better than prior opening, we need to make use of the hard new ball and with Pietersen being 'our best player' it makes sense that he goes in at the top of the order. However I'd still like to see Bell opening.
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I'd have trott opening as he does it at county level so why not at the top level
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I don't think you can take Trott away from No.3, he's there to add security to the top order so that the opening pair can go and express themselves a bit and then Trott can come in and pick up the pieces if need be. With Strauss + an aggressive player opening, runs are going to come quickly however if someone goes early then he can come in and steady the ship and then pick up the scoring. If Strauss and Trott opened then it could be a little slow to start with and then you're not making the most of the hard ball at the start of the innings and then leaves too much to do down the order.
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Trott opens in t20 for the bears and was the highest scorer with a top strike rate dont let the fact he takes his time in tests fool you I have watched him go after the bowling and bell could bat 3
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I'd have trott opening as he does it at county level so why not at the top level
Couldn't agree more. Trott at 2, KP at 3
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http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/cricket/england/9399606.stm
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[url]http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/cricket/england/9399606.stm[/url]
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BAD MOVE ! :(
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just been made official now though. He opened in the warm up game today but no one from england said he would carry on and open for the rest of the world cup.
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I think it's a good positive move by England.
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Oh fair enough then Essexarsenal, watching the Arsenal Barca game I take it!! I reckon 2-1 Arsenal, I hope :) But I agree with Matt, it's a positive move, fortune favours the brave! :D
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Was made official straight after match by kp
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What happens if it fails after a few games, would they change it do you reckon?
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Did anyone see any of the WC opening ceremony today? It went on for 4 hours! I think they're a waste of time, I saw a bit of it on Sky Sports News - but couldn't imagine watching it all. Just get on with the cricket!
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yeah seemed a bit on an epic!!! people everywhere absailing down buildings and all sorts
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Yeah I saw that bit, they played (light)cricket on the side of the tallest building or something?
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I would open with bell as the techique he has hits the ball in the right areas down the ground, compared to prior who hits the ball square + peterson works the ball into his favoured leg side, just my opinion.
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This is going to sound absolutely mental. But id open with Graham swann as a pinchhitter. (Dont know if hes fit or not?) Just to try and get the innings off to a flyer and if it doesen't work there is Trott at 3 to steady the ship, Wouldn't put bell up the top, nor prior. Michael Lumb wouldn't of been a bad shout. (Again, dont know if he's fit)
Agreed, been advocating this on another cricket forum, he does it for Notts, and if you tell him to go after it he will, especially in pitch-up conditions like the first 10 overs where he gets on the front foot and drives well!
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That's a good shout. Swanny's the man! :D - He's done it with success for Notts, but whether he could deal with people like Shaun Tait and Brett Lee in the 1st 10 overs with a potentially swinging new ball would be the worry the England coaching staff would have surely?
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Think my comments been deleted? Still been quoted so not sure whats gone on there. Yeah Swanny is no mug with the bat, he's faced pace before but i see what you mean, If it so happens that he cant cope with it, and he fails....then its only swanny, not one of our top 6 when it comes to talent so wouldn't be a massive problem.
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Not a bad shout with Swanny opening, just can't see England doing it.
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nor me far too by the book.....who's everyone faviourites to win...apart from Kenya obviously!
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The favourites have got to be India, but their bowling attack isn't the best... I can see SA doing well.
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Im going for a wildcard with NZ but bit shy on bowling as well....potential to casue an upset tho
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NZ have a decent batting lineup, but as you said - they've got a poor bowling attack. They got hit for 360odd the other day in a warm up game against India the other day.
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England oh wait to win ermmmmm
India favourites but sa must win something eventually and can never count out the Aussies
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everyone shud put their name in the hat and pick out a team to follow.....winner gets sumthing!
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There isn't enough teams to do that really is there?
I think pakistan will do quite well, they always perform well in tournaments.
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Im backing the Windies.
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Changed the name of the thread, made it more appropriate.
Also added a Poll.
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sorry cant find the topic anywhere - any one got the pin of the league for cricinfo fantasy cricket ?
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http://custombats.co.uk/cbforum/index.php?topic=9510.0 (http://custombats.co.uk/cbforum/index.php?topic=9510.0)
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Ireland to win....
Great batting lineup and a decent bowling attack to cause a few upsets
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[url]http://custombats.co.uk/cbforum/index.php?topic=9510.0[/url] ([url]http://custombats.co.uk/cbforum/index.php?topic=9510.0[/url])
cheers !
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India and SL are huge favourites. Both sides are formidable at home. Both sides had plenty of spinners, which will be vital if the pitches are similar to the warm up games.
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India and SL are huge favourites. Both sides are formidable at home. Both sides had plenty of spinners, which will be vital if the pitches are similar to the warm up games.
jeet, you know more about me on the indian team. what spinners do you reckon they will play ? ashwin,chawla,harbhajan, maybe yusuf ??
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harbhajan and yusuf will play I reckon and then with Chawla playing well in the Warm ups I can see him getting in there as well...
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Normally India play 3 seamers plus Harbhajan.
But Dhoni has hinted they will play 2 seamers plus Harbhajan and Chawla(Chawla was very good in the warm ups). Then there's Yuvraj, Yusuf, Raina and Sehwag to bowl same spin as well.
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KP scored 66, england 268/8 with 6 balls in their innings left.
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Good 65 from Colly as well, plenty of the middle order getting starts. Shame about Trott and Straussy
Just trying to think who's going to get the cut when Swanny is back, either Yardy or Bresnan, I personally would get rid of Yardy. Not a fan at all, decent county player but his bowling is awful
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I think it'll be Bresnan who won't make it in the starting XI, we've got medium pacers in Collingwood, Bopara and Trott and the extra spain always comes in handy in the sub-continent.
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I think it'll be Bresnan who won't make it in the starting XI, we've got medium pacers in Collingwood, Bopara and Trott and the extra spain always comes in handy in the sub-continent.
Yeah i think Bresnan will go, Yardy isn't the worst bowler, his economy rate is decent, not a mug with the bat. And as you said, Colly,Trott,Ravi all provide seam options.
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I can't see England going in without 3 frontline seamers. Colly can go do the same holding role that Yardy does (and probably turns it more). Bresnan will definitely play.
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Bet there will be some tasty words out there today though, Trott V Riaz II
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Broad is on fire! picked up the first 3 wickets so far.
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Yeah he is, 5-1-8-3-1.60
Superb bowling figures atm! Might have to put him in the fantasy team...
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My pick is Sri Lanka to win it!
Broad is looking very good - although the Pakistani's are looking decidedly average.
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So another 5 wickets for Broad, impressive stuff.
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Why are all the countries wearing slightly different kits at the WC? Pic of broad here http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/cricket/england/9400470.stm (http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/cricket/england/9400470.stm), thats not the usual ODI shirt is it?
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So people will fork out for the slightly different kit
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My pick is Sri Lanka to win it!
Broad is looking very good - although the Pakistani's are looking decidedly average.
is this on the telly?
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There are sponsoring restrictions at the World Cup, hence the slightly modified kits.
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The pakistan jerseys are the nicest i think...
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is this on the telly?
Not in Aus it isn't. I was just following on cricinfo mate.
Back to back 5 for's for Broad and a Pietersen 50 opening. Not bad news for the English really considering the lead up!
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sehwag , 168 not out with still 6 overs left ! ;)
On for a double hundred first match here ! :D
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He'll struggle now, 25 short with 17 balls left!
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He'll struggle now, 25 short with 17 balls left!
Out for 175 , not a bad effort , very tired shot there !
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Finally Sehwag made Bangladesh pay.
Fantastic knock
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Sreesanth swinging it like a good un atm as well...not easy to play!!!
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Sreesanth is a disgrace and not fit to wear the shirt.
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Just watching him implode at the moment!!! Funny to watch if your not an Indian fan.
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Just watching him implode at the moment!!! Funny to watch if your not an Indian fan.
How he replaced Praveen Kumar in the squad is a mystery!
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time to take the pace off the ball if they are going at 10 an over id think
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Zaheer is going at 4 rpo. Sreesanth at 12 rpo. Gulf in class is embarrassing
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Wild slogging only gets you so far. Bye bye Kayes
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I'd love bangladesh to knock these runs off.
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bit to do still but getting a little more interesting
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Looks like it's over now...
Still getting 240 off 40 overs is still a great achievement, it shows that the indian bowling attack is poor.
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according to sky sports news min patel of kent fame is playing for india
http://live.skysports.com/ScoreCentre/live.html
go into the game look at india score card then
click on Patel's name and look at the picture slow left armer
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Looks like it's over now...
Still getting 240 off 40 overs is still a great achievement, it shows that the indian bowling attack is poor.
Nothing wrong with India's bowling. Flat pitch nothing for the quicks. Sreesanth was sh!t and will be dropped vs England.
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The 4 year itch has finally been scratched for India. Bangladesh's win at Port of Spain has finally been buried.
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seems to me the theme of the world cup is ss bats and nike spikes !
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Ok ENG vs the Orange today, starting at 9 - the Orange are batting. watch out for Kerveezee - a Saffa who is English qualified sometime in the summer and has some talent (as do the Dustcart and Bas Z).
Team news
England team
AJ Strauss*, KP Pietersen, IJL Trott, IR Bell, PD Collingwood, RS Bopara, MJ Prior†, TT Bresnan, SCJ Broad, GP Swann, JM Anderson
Netherlands team
AN Kervezee, W Barresi†, TLW Cooper, RN ten Doeschate, B Zuiderent, TN de Grooth, PW Borren*, Mudassar Bukhari, PM Seelaar, BP Loots, BA Westdijk
Anyone else thing our middle order (IR Bell, PD Collingwood, RS Bopara, MJ Prior ave height about 5ft9) is too full or short ar5es and needs a 6ft3biffer in there?
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First game for England about to get underway...
Can't help but think they've got 1 too many batsmen out there... I feel as though Yardy should be playing as well as Swann.
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Totally agree very conservative I would have yardy but this is the team so we shall see
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Are you offering your services buzz?
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Its quite a long batting lineup isnt it. Expect collingwood, bopara and trott to bowl to make up the lack of 2nd spinner
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Yes (obviously, I rate myself better than Bell, Collingwood and Bopara, not sure the stats agree though) - although I'm not quite 6ft3!! ;)
and don't forget KP's off spin filth
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Strauss can turn his arm over as well or he has done once lol
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and don't forget KP's off spin filth
True, but yardy should be used in this squad (especially in India) to restrict the runs. Medium pace is going to be quite gentle and nice on these type of pitches whereas Yardy seems very hard to get away.
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England not playing Yardy is probably due to the reason their next couple of games are at Bangalore. Seamers do better their than spinners
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also I think the pitches are all so flat and dead that everyone will get smashed around the park so you may as well play the bits and pieces bowlers.
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Watch out for h4l player pieter seelaar! Should be using a hattori
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Watch out for h4l player pieter seelaar! Should be using a hattori
If he gets in to bat...
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Watch out for h4l player pieter seelaar! Should be using a hattori
Have sky plussed it in readiness mate!
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Both dutch batsmen at the moment are averaging 70!
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They're both batting very well to be fair. Need to get at least one of them out before the change of ball.
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Finally! Coooper's gone!
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the Dutch are on for about 270odd. that will not be an easy chase... we need to pick up some more wickets :o
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oh my god, what is that fielding? that is very schoolboy.
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That was ridiculous. England to lose this match.
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That was ridiculous. England to lose this match.
it wouldnt surprise me
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cant believe Pietersen didnt attempt that catch it was right next to him
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Very important wicket as well, just when Ten Doeschate was on 47 as well. Looks like he's going to get a big score...
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y no hot spot?
not got sound on but how can they tell just from watching vid?
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cant believe Pietersen didnt attempt that catch it was right next to him
Anderson was the one at fault!
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Had a phone call at work and missed it, shocker wasnt it?
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the camera shot i saw Anderson wasnt even in the frame but i take your word for it
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Yeah, definately Andersons fault he was closer to the ball - however we don't know if anyone called it or anything.
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i stand corrected, watching it at work isnt always the best
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y no hot spot?
not got sound on but how can they tell just from watching vid?
You can see air between the bat and ball at all times. With the sound on, it's obvious that when he hit it it wasn't with the bat. The view from behind was the killer.
No hotspot because there isn't enough hotspot kit to cover all of the grounds.
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Good to see a Warsop at the World Cup!
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Have we really been that bad? Not using the skyplayer at work as saving potential bollockings for later stages of the tournament when it's worth getting one. Seen on TMS that KP and Anderson dropped a sitter between them?
I did think TenDos would get some runs though, class player
Good to see a Warsop at the World Cup!
Should be some H4L action shortly mate!
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We've done some stupid things, but the seamers have got nothing out of the pitch and we could probably have done with Yardy bowling.
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Well that must bode well for us batting then. I know that they won't have much in the bowling department other than tendos, although can't say I am that clued up on the state of Dutch cricket
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Well that must bode well for us batting then. I know that they won't have much in the bowling department other than tendos, although can't say I am that clued up on the state of Dutch cricket
Bukhari, who opens the bowling, will do a good job, as will Pieter Seelaar, the left-arm spinner. Don't know much about Loots or Westdijk, so can't comment on them.
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Ten Doeschate looks a good pick in my fantasy world cup...he is a good bowler aswell
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Ten Doeschate just oozes class
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Its amazing what a world class player can do to a smaller nation. Ten Doeschate is a serious talent and its a shame he doesn't play Tests.
Well played
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He must have South African grandparents somewhere along the line...we could do with him in the middle order
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He's born in SA!
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He should have played for England when he had the chance!
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He should have played for England when he had the chance!
Why? The man has a bit of loyalty to the side he's playing for, and he's never come out and said he wants to play for Eng/SA. Good on him for sticking to his guns!
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Only joking, it's good to see some national loyalty.
Never quite worked for Giggs and Kewell though ;)
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Why? The man has a bit of loyalty to the side he's playing for, and he's never come out and said he wants to play for Eng/SA. Good on him for sticking to his guns!
I actually agree, but as an Englishman I would have loved to see him in our middle order! I should have phrased it differently!
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This is pretty rubbish from England. What the hell are we doing? Don't even seem able to bowl to the field!
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When it rains, it pours
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like I said.....
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Time to wake up and smell the coffee....
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I wouldn't have believed that it was possible for a professional bunch of cricketers to have such a shocker... It's been worse than watching last year's club's third team, which was always a joke!!!
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And to think this is the side who won the T20 world cup, the Ashes, and have been one of the form sides over the past 18 months...
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What a crap fielding performance
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That was pathetic but take nothing away from ten doeschate what a bat he is
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Come on chaps, we haven't batted yet! Where's that english stiff upper lip?
If Bangladesh can knock off 280 against India, then it's not 'that' bad
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England will knock the runs off.
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England will win and quite comfortably
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Yeah but Kenya 70 Canada 150 Dutch 300 enough said
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Bet pietersen gets a duck, anyone else in that side with his recent stats wouldn't be in the side
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We did field like a bunch of plonkers though. So many drops and indecisive moments. Most coaches would bawl you out for those. And the players outside the circle? That's unforgiveable!!!
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Yeah but Kenya 70 Canada 150 Dutch 300 enough said
To be fair, the dutch are better than either of those two teams, but I wouldn't have said 150 runs better...
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Without being pessimistic, this is England, kings of the collapse
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Quite bizarre from England, fielding display was from years gone by.
Bowlers refusing to attack the stumps.
Ten Doeschate was stunning though.
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Matt Prior being labelled the finisher with an average of 25 isn't reassuring either. I'm a massive fan of his but that is worrying for our first choice keeper
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He was awesome....but he should have been caught comfortably on 47!
What a display from England bowlers and fielders!!
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I'm thinking that Prior should open...
Tendo was immense, but the drop on 47 was comical ;)
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Only a drop of you get a hand to it.
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Davies should be there opening/finishing, he's a top strokeplayer.
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Solid start from KP and Straussy judging by TMS commentary
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You had to say it will didn't you
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(No Swearing Please)...sorry
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It seems they are struggling with the left right combination
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From what I can gather, KP is playing it carefully?
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Fingers crossed...
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I switched on the TV with England 1 ball into their reply, and I have no doubt whatsoever that we will chase this down with ease. Their bowling is too weak and our batting is too strong, simple as that!
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KP. Oh no
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oooppssss...... :P
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Some of you clearly haven't lived through the misery days of the late 80's and 90's with collapses in abundance and the inherent ability to snatch defeat from the Jaws of victory.
please can we stop with this dangerous positive thinking
thanks
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Your fault Ian
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Haha, I'm still 100% confident England will not throw this away :)
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Some of you clearly haven't lived through the misery days of the late 80's and 90's with collapses in abundance and the inherent ability to snatch defeat from the Jaws of victory.
please can we stop with this dangerous positive thinking
thanks
Here here....
Wasn't it the Netherlands we lost to in the opening round of the World T20s in 2009?
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well England won, just! how does everyone think they will get on with India?
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I am optimistic to be honest we had to work hard it can not get much worst than that and a win is a win no matter who your playing
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true, like you said a wins a win but surely we should be winning in a more convincing mannor??
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I just can't believe Yardy doesn't play! I believe we still have a good chance..
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lets put it down to first game nerves and the worry of not losing to them again!....anyway onto the big one tomorrow Kenya vs Pakistan :)
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The way I see it, we've hit 294 in our first game and all our batsmen have got runs. Happy days!
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Things can only get better so many mistakes in the field, good that batters did well with a bit of pressure
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The kenyans will be needing there ayrteks today I think
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No Ayrteks ???
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No Ayrteks ???
Yes, wondering the same thing!
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Kenya really need to work on their bowling...
46 Extras (lb 3, w 37, nb 6)
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Good work by my man Umar. POINTS! :D
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Twice now Seren Waters has got out too early. He's a fabulous talent, just wish he'd have a bit more luck if anything!
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Briefly had an Ayrtek on show lol
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Dual ayrtek power now
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Not so much now
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I reckon deVillers' 2 spring handled bat is a Gray Nichols as if you look near the shoulders there are two thin stripes.
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Vaguely seen here:
(http://www.espncricinfo.com/db/PICTURES/CMS/128900/128957.jpg)
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Good spot. Looks similar to the oblivion shape doesnt it?
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anyone else notice AB deVilliers' bat has 2 springs in the handle?
the answer to this is that AB has quick hands and is a hockey player - as a result he likes a bat with a stiffer handle as it suits his game better...
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(http://www.espncricinfo.com/db/PICTURES/CMS/128900/128959.jpg)
you can see the two 'lighter' wood marks here also.
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Got to love that manoeuvre by pollard not letting the ball go but that would've been a huge no ball
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Got to love that manoeuvre by pollard not letting the ball go but that would've been a huge no ball
It's an absolutely wonderful talent, I'd love to be able to do that!
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ha yeah, I couldn't believe it when I saw how far he was over lol.
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Thing is I have seen pollard do that before when it was marginal he just heard the umpire and pulled out got to feel for the umpire though "no ball" oh wait "dead ball" ha
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the answer to this is that AB has quick hands and is a hockey player - as a result he likes a bat with a stiffer handle as it suits his game better...
Thanks Buzz
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and AB is a seriously good player to. I really like the way he plays spin, great feet movement and hand position
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I have to say I like JP Duminy's profile on his bat.
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The south africans look like one hell of a team, they will it take some beating
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Unless the choke.............again! :(
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I just think they could have a slightly weak lower order, they haven't got a finisher.
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Bangladesh threw away a great start.
Come on Ireland!!!
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put a bit of money on Ireland to win this game! come on!
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put a bit of money on Ireland to win this game! come on!
Odds any good?
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They should be, Ireland aren't expected to win this, Banglas are!
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Yes Tamim!!
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Again, Kumar not using the Ayrtek helmet for keeping now, though he seems to have had one...are they still in Customs Tom...wonder if you could get a Kenyan helmet sprayed if they don't get through to the QFs ;)
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Presume money talks >:(
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Shocking run out for Hafeez! Chaotic!
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Might be getting some money thrown at him to wear that helmet for the tournament like many others are with kit
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Again, Kumar not using the Ayrtek helmet for keeping now, though he seems to have had one...are they still in Customs Tom...wonder if you could get a Kenyan helmet sprayed if they don't get through to the QFs ;)
Johan, we all know Kenya will win the WC..
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Indeed Kenya to romp home after luring everyone into a false sense of security :) the helmets were released and his agent said they were being passed on.....as you say £££ talks as he was happy to use our in all the warm up matches ???
will see what reply i get after emailing him
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Yeah I did think that after posting. And yeah, of course guys. Kenya are gonna bowl their opponents in the final out for 15 and win it after 3 balls 8)
Interesting to see what the reply you will get is.. :)
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uJu8dMhE1ow&feature=player_embedded
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I wonder what other countries now think of England after that batting display..?
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I have a question for members of the forum.
If Kieron Pollard was English, would he get a game in our one day side? The one glaring omission from our team is a six hitter and I have a view that frequently this ability is coached out of youngsters.
he is currently on 31 from 12 balls against the formidable side ;) that is Holland
p.s. it is also great to see a batsman in a sun hat - brings back memories of Carl Hooper in his haydays!!
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Could do with a maroon sun hat though ha
Prob would not get in if English as we like proper batsmen not hitters and I agree six hitting is frowned upon by coaches as they always say keep it on the floor
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Is he wearing a sun hat? Nearly as good as my locks flowing out the back of my masuri ;)
I would give Pollard a run for sure. It's about time the selectors gave Colly the golden handhsake, yes he's been good for us, but he's not in form and not likely to get any back under pressure at a World Cup.
I dread it when he comes to the crease these days, and it's awful it's come to that. Just my views, apologies to any Geordies ;)
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Probably not, which I think is sad.
I agree that our coaching has seemed to be a little obsessed with the high elbow over the years, and some of the better players in our current set up were raised in other countries which says alot i think.
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I have a question for members of the forum.
If Kieron Pollard was English, would he get a game in our one day side? The one glaring omission from our team is a six hitter and I have a view that frequently this ability is coached out of youngsters.
he is currently on 31 from 12 balls against the formidable side ;) that is Holland
p.s. it is also great to see a batsman in a sun hat - brings back memories of Carl Hooper in his haydays!!
From the selectors' point of view, no he would not. However, with Morgan out of the side, the only real six hitters we have left are Pietersen, and, well... Colly's not in form, so probably Bresnan! We need a reliable striker of the ball, or even an unreliable striker of the ball! Someone like Peter Trego, an all-round player who is better than Colly+Bopara+Wright with the ball, and a better striker of the ball than the last 2... And probably colly too!
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I agree we like what we call consistent batsmen but gayle is called hit and miss but his odi avg is 1 less than Lara and 5 less than sachin I would take that
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Matt "England's Finisher" Prior has an average of 25 odd
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H4l on the telly now
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Matt "England's Finisher" Prior has an average of 25 odd
Bopara should be in there for Collingwood and acting as the 'finisher'
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Hat trick's are flowing at the WC!
Yesterday it was the brilliance of Roach, today it was Malinga! Stunning bowing.
Malinga's 2nd WC hat trick, he got one vs SA in 2007
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didnt he get 4 in 4 in the last world cup?
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didnt he get 4 in 4 in the last world cup?
Yeah totally forgot lol
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Sum amazingly accurate bowling...not impressed though as he cleared out most of out advertising campaign lol
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on the upside tom - his hatrick will be on TV loads and repeated again and again, so (cough) your helmet will get lots of exposure (cough)
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Have just seen the Sri Lanka highlights and think they look a complete side.... How on earth are u meant to play that malinga's yorker? Looks unplayable
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Have just seen the Sri Lanka highlights and think they look a complete side.... How on earth are u meant to play that malinga's yorker? Looks unplayable
put your bat in front of it and dont miss it ;)
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Haha good point, rather you than me
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Good point well made Buzzard.....got ITV west country in the office on thursday to do some filming :D ill have to hone my acting skills!
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I'll make sure thats the day i visit ;) i can stand in background modelling one !
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haha yeh i can imagine a massive influx of customers...oh hello sorry didnt realise u were filming today...just happened to be in the area ps heres my acting resume ;)
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Oh dear KP...
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What a pathetic shot god damn
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Between flicking from here and TMS, KP has managed to have a shocker? What happened roco?
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Part time off spinner played a half hearted reverse paddle hit glove looped up to keeper
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Pure class that lad
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Could have had a big hundred there but no he has to throw it away
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Always going to go down as a player that should have been a legend of the game and a true great, but never fulfilled his potential. Big shame really, still find it odd there were retirement rumours before the WC
Saying that, I wish I could do a fraction of what he has done!
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From the selectors' point of view, no he would not. However, with Morgan out of the side, the only real six hitters we have left are Pietersen, and, well... Colly's not in form, so probably Bresnan! We need a reliable striker of the ball, or even an unreliable striker of the ball! Someone like Peter Trego, an all-round player who is better than Colly+Bopara+Wright with the ball, and a better striker of the ball than the last 2... And probably colly too!
we are missing one man...
FLINTOFF!
wtf just seen malinga's bowl!
as if he isnt a chucker!
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I always had high hopes for Graham Napier, but I think he must have upset someone.
On a different note
"Trott is nearing that 64-run mark which will take him level with Viv Richards and Kevin Pietersen as the quickest (in terms of matches) to 1000 ODI runs. He's also just changed his bat, had a choice of about 15..."
Clearly anther bat freak!
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we are missing one man...
FLINTOFF!
wtf just seen malinga's bowl!
as if he isnt a chucker!
Nah, definitely not a chucker. Wonderfully clean action actually.
Buzz - Bowling not good enough, batting not consistent enough methinks!
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Ireland will chase down around the 300 mark on this pitch.
I have a feeling that Joyce will score a big one against his old team
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are you kiding?
he lets the ball go with his arm at nearly 45 degrees
instead of having his arm straight he slings
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Malinga is fine
And what ever your smoking johnny I want some
We tried to steal one of his bats at the trip buzz but were watched like hawks but looking at that he had plenty to spare
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And what ever your smoking johnny I want some
I am backing Ireland to win at this stage as they have quality batsmen all the way down to 8.
I dont think England have made enough use of this pitch and they are underestimating Ireland. If England do win then it will be by no more than 25 runs
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England should pass 300 easy and Ireland won't make 275 oh wait jimmy is playing so might ;)
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england should get 300+ so cud be another good game
i love that shot over fine leg lol
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Trotts little punch shot then just shows how good his GM bat is...
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Good man Stirling....you have brought collingwood to the crease
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Hasn't happened on the online player yet...
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But colly prior etc with licence should be 350 I would've thought then bowl Ireland out for 250
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Mooney you are a Legend
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Mixed feelings about that first ball wicket. Put both Porterfield and Jimmy A in my fantasy team last night
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Prior... that's a dolly.
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Chin up Matty Prior, love it when the pro's field like i do!
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Oh dear, another drop...
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Chin up Matty Prior, love it when the pro's field like i do!
Speak for yourself, I take my catches! ;)
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prior out simmy in i think lol
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Come On Ireland!!!!!
Show the world your talent and teach England not to underestimate us!!!!
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Looks like its shaping up to be a thriller!
If this innings had come sooner K O'Brien could have been IPL bound
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Tim Bresnan/Adam Sandler ???
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Come on the Green Army!
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What've we learned from this match? The England bowling attack really isn't performing in India...
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O'Brien, what a lad!
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Take a bow son...your doing your nation proud
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Fair play he deserved that but get out now please
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I saw another holland there thankfully we hit the stumps
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Score chaps? TMS is being a (No Swearing Please)
Not going to enjoy the highlights am I...
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You really don't want to know.
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I think we should chase from now on
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Please tell me cricinfo online scorecard has been hacked by an over-excited Irishman...
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35 needed off 30
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How badly do we need a death bowler like Zaheer Kahn or Alfonso Thomas
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Broad's Heart has gone - Ireland to win from here now.
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Why are we bowling length at the death cmon at least think
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York the bastewards!
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Broad's Heart has gone - Ireland to win from here now.
Think his knee's gone as well Dan!
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Think his knee's gone as well Dan!
He can take his pout back home with him
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Incredible batting, poor bowling.
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Highest run chase in WC history as well...fair bloody play to them
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got him!
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I feel sorry for Bangalore tonight it may be destroyed
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Would they notice?
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Loads of Irish throwing up everywhere I think they would
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I am sooooooooooooooooooo proud to be Irish.....
England will regret underestimating us!!!!!!!!!!
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Well done Ireland
I'm off for a Guiness beer
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Shocking from England. Book the flight now.
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Well done Ireland they upset the apple cart there it just shows you the ramblings about the associate nations is (No Swearing Please)
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Yeeeeeeeeahhhhhhhhhhhhh boiii! Outstanding from the Green Army! Really cool heads from O'Brien, Cusack, Mooney and Johnston at the end!
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We've demonstrated that the bowlers who won the Ashes and the T20 world cup seem to have lost the art of bowling in 50 over matches...
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fair play to O'Brien, top innings. Shocking fielding display.
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And nobody can say that we are relying on players from other countries because 9 of the players are Irish
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Ireland, you beasts! :D - Top knock from O'Brien it seems!
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O'Brien for England please
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O'Brien for England please
Bugger off, he's ours! ;)
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Great performance by the Irish lads, but slightly odd from Strauss to bat first on a ground where batting second is the order of the day. Taking nothing way from Ireland, KOB was a beast!
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What I'd pay to be in Dublin tonight...
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What I'd pay to be in Dublin tonight...
The joys of living in Ireland
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The joys of living in Ireland
Ahhh damn you. Half Irish, and I've never been to the Emerald Isle. That needs to be rectified!
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Was a superb game! Towards the end I actually wanted Ireland to win, as it can only do good for Cricket and Sport as a whole in the country. All it took was for England to beat Australia in the Ashes in 2005 for participation in cricket to dramatically increase over here, and hopefully the same thing will happen in Ireland fairly soon!
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Could a shock be on in the Pakistan Canada game?
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If canada can get these last two wickets quickly could definatly be game on!
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Well there's another one!
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quality catch!!!
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I do think the Pakistan bowling will be a bridge too far for the canadiens but fair play great performance and icc have thrown all these out of the next world cup
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no i am backing canada all the way here!
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I do think the Pakistan bowling will be a bridge too far for the canadiens but fair play great performance and icc have thrown all these out of the next world cup
makes them look a bit silly, but the competition is rather drawn out.
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This could be over very quicky if gayle cuts loose
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Oh well there goes my day of cricket
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KS is uing his Ayrtek today.
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Love watching KS bat
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agree mate he is up there with the best..
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Love watching him keep even more. Probably my fave keeper/batsmen after Gilly retired. Between him and Macullum I think
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steve smith just annoys me i just look at him and hate him
overrated plum has fielded well though
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He took a good catch earlier off Tharanga
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steve smith just annoys me i just look at him and hate him
overrated plum has fielded well though
Agreed
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Ballsed that runout up though...not as annoying as Mitchell Johnson
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tell you what samaraweera is fastly overlooked but is a very accomplished player maybe not in this format but must be up there in the top 10 batsman of the last 5 years...
His average is amazing
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Might be the kiss of death but I think Angelo Matthews will score some runs if he gets a go today....
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It's not supposed to rain in the sub-continent??
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tell you what samaraweera is fastly overlooked but is a very accomplished player maybe not in this format but must be up there in the top 10 batsman of the last 5 years...
His average is amazing
Flat track bully Dave, he's pitiful outside Asia
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flat track it all he wants mate for me i read he got shot as well
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i think its time for the ICC to really think about the weaker teams in the World cup.
So far we have see from most of the weaker sides that they are actually lowering the standard of cricket.
the west indies game on friday was poor.
Ok the Irsih did well against England however that is always going to be a one-off.
Do these lower teams really have the depth and talent to compete against the test playing sides, in my opinon the answer is NO.
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Disagree a little i think there should only be 2 associated teams i think there needs to more groups and less games..
Remember a long time ago Sri Lanka were seen as associate team look at them not...
There just so many games the comp should last no longer than 2 weeks
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I agree with Procricket, there should be 2 associate teams otherwise what do the associate nations have to aim for?
I live and play cricket in an associate nation and although we probably won't ever qualify for the world cup or world T20 there is still that carrot!
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Just listening to Porterfield
India will destroy Ireland
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anybody just see the moonwalking man classic
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What I find funny is that the 2 minow teams that have had good games, have both been against England. I think there may be something to that, :D
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pike or salmon bud
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Regarding the associates, what we're seeing in the world cup right now isn't representative of the best the associate nations have to offer. Scotland and Afghanistan are both far superior to Canada and Kenya. The qualifiers took place in 2009, Scotland were going through a rebuilding phase and Afghanistan have come into their own in 2010.
Pretty ridiculous to suggest that Ireland beating England is always going to be a one off, Ireland took England to the brink in 2009, albeit with the assistance of D/L but they clearly showed they have the potential to beat any nation. Ireland have beaten both Bangladesh and Zimbabwe prior to the world cup and if they hadn't messed up an easy run chase would've secured a comprehensive victory against Bangladesh and increased their chances of progressing.
There don't seem to be many calls for Bangladesh and Zimbabwe to be excluded despite their performances yesterday in giving WI & NZ 9 & 10 wicket wins. It's just a shame that the performances from Kenya and Canada have been so abysmal throughout, but with such a large period of time between the qualifiers and the actual world cup there's not going to be an accurate reflection in the quality of the associate teams.
If the ICC had any desire to make cricket truly a global sport the idea of decreasing the number of teams in the 2015 world cup would never have entered their heads but they obviously only care about one thing and i'm sure we all know what that is.
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Whos ready for an early start tomorrow 4am start i believe
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I hopefully will be, unsure about what im doing tonight yet and how long to stay out for before coming back and watching the cricket.
get a nap in before hand, or see how it goes?
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I'm up for getting up early, but last weekend at 6am and 7am and today at 7:30am I don't fancy getting up too early...
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The Telegraph is reporting that Bopara will be playing instead of Collingwood... they will use the excuse of an injured knee rather than him being dropped.
This could be the end for the great man. :(
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It's about time he is dropped though, he's not scoring the runs we need down the order at the moment to be fair.
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I'd play 3 spinners at Chennai if I was England. In domestic cricket, spinners dominate at the Chepauk and seamers usually get battered.
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Tahir is going to have a field day against the england lower order.
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I am going to be brave and say that Ireland will beat India tomorrow. If England can draw with them then why cant Ireland beat them??
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Lightning doesn't strike the same place twice...
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Lightning doesn't strike the same place twice...
But the win over England was not a fluke and Ireland should have beaten Bangladesh
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i think its time for the ICC to really think about the weaker teams in the World cup.
So far we have see from most of the weaker sides that they are actually lowering the standard of cricket.
the west indies game on friday was poor.
Ok the Irsih did well against England however that is always going to be a one-off.
Do these lower teams really have the depth and talent to compete against the test playing sides, in my opinon the answer is NO.
I know this is late, but I strongly disagree with that. They outplayed the English and have done so in the past, so it is no real fluke. They have some quality players who can cut it in the English County Championship so are no mugs. Some of the lower-ranked teams can play well, and as Dave said, even teams like SL have come up from associate status to become strong forces. I think there should be more tests and ODIs/T20s between associate nations to see which countries would be best suited to represent them at the WCs, as you wouldn't want too many so as not to drag the groups on for too long - a month for the groups is ridiculous!! :(
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But the win over England was not a fluke and Ireland should have beaten Bangladesh
Sorry it ain't happening. Once bitten, twice shy.
India won't underestimate the Irish, as they did the same to Bangladesh in 2007 and where promptly packing their bags and heading home.
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I know this is late, but I strongly disagree with that. They outplayed the English and have done so in the past, so it is no real fluke. They have some quality players who can cut it in the English County Championship so are no mugs. Some of the lower-ranked teams can play well, and as Dave said, even teams like SL have come up from associate status to become strong forces. I think there should be more tests and ODIs/T20s between associate nations to see which countries would be best suited to represent them at the WCs, as you wouldn't want too many so as not to drag the groups on for too long - a month for the groups is ridiculous!! :(
Although the Ireland performance was brilliant and nothing should be taken away from then, do you honestly believe the result was not exceptional? Do you think a series of matches between them over the next 12 months would give anything other than an overwhelming series win to england?
Ireland are the 'best of the rest' by quite some way. Canada and especially Kenya have been dire. I'd like to see the future world cups comprised of the test nations plus 2 associates, who are selected by an ongoing group system, not dissimilar to the way football is set up.
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Maybe Ireland should've beaten bangladesh, but the England win was down to one man and a once in a life time innings. I know the English bowling was poor, but that display of batting is very very rarely seen, before he came in England were cruising it.
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Although the Ireland performance was brilliant and nothing should be taken away from then, do you honestly believe the result was not exceptional? Do you think a series of matches between them over the next 12 months would give anything other than an overwhelming series win to england?
Ireland are the 'best of the rest' by quite some way. Canada and especially Kenya have been dire. I'd like to see the future world cups comprised of the test nations plus 2 associates, who are selected by an ongoing group system, not dissimilar to the way football is set up.
There not much if at all better than Holland and Afghanistan though are they and Scotland are no mugs either...
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Wish I hadn't woke up for this.
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Go back to sleep mate
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Ah I don't think I will, I like watching Bopara bat. Will see how it goes..
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Prior has failed yet again, England can't keep picking him
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Hopefully this world cup sees the end of him as a one day player. Also Yardy, Anderson and Pieterson at least for the time being.
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Hopefully this world cup sees the end of him as a one day player. Also Yardy, Anderson and Pieterson at least for the time being.
Pietersen's been consistent in this WC so far, was averaging 40 before this innings, 30 now. Yards, Jim have to go, as for the keeper? The selectors change it so often that it's just stupid. Get James Taylor, Chris Tremlett/Woakes, and Adil Rashid in. England need a top quality seamer, and a spinner who not just turns the ball, but offers something with the bat and in the field. Leg-spinners take wickets. Look around, Balaji Rao for Canada's taken 6 in 3. For an associate nation! Afridi's taken 14, Tahir's taken 11. England need a PROPER wicket-taking spinner to partner Swann. And not some average county pro like James Tredwell. Not a massive fan of Bopara, but he's clearly come in and done well under pressure. God knows what else they can do.
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To be fair an average of 30 over a 4 match sample that includes Ireland and Holland is not good. Even so his average in the last 25 matches or so is just over 20 which says it all.
Agree that those mentioned should be given a chance although Rashid on his bowling alone - can't stand bits and pieces players think you should be picked as a batsman or bowler 1st and foremost then given the chance to work on the other side of your game. I.e. I think England would have been better served using Pieterson, Trott, Bopara and even Bell as genuine batsman who can also bowl rather than messing about with Yardy Wright etc last few years. Monty not being in India is a shocking omission too.
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To be fair an average of 30 over a 4 match sample that includes Ireland and Holland is not good. Even so his average in the last 25 matches or so is just over 20 which says it all.
Agree that those mentioned should be given a chance although Rashid on his bowling alone - can't stand bits and pieces players think you should be picked as a batsman or bowler 1st and foremost then given the chance to work on the other side of your game. I.e. I think England would have been better served using Pieterson, Trott, Bopara and even Bell as genuine batsman who can also bowl rather than messing about with Yardy Wright etc last few years. Monty not being in India is a shocking omission too.
Monty would have been a good pick. Pietersen has been in good form, he looked in quality touch against India for example. No, over the past 20 matches he's not been brilliant, but I'd still have him in my side, unless you can find someone else who has the same sort of charisma/talent as him to bat at 2/3/4. Admittedly, Samit Patel is the perfect fit in this side in place of Yardy. Just a shame he hasn't lost any weight. I'm pretty sure that James Taylor, James Hildreth, Jimmy Adams, or Andrew Gale, all of whom are with the Lions squad, would all fit in well with the main squad. added to the fact that the first 3, and also possibly Andrew Gale (I haven't seen) are extremely talented fielders as well. Would also like to see Woakes and James Harris, also with the Lions, pushing Jimmy for a spot in the next ODI squad, wherever that may be.
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England should be ashamed of gifting Robin Petersen 3 wickets. The guy is a journeyman and shouldn't be playing for SA!
The pitch is a belter and there was nothing in it for the seamers.
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Yardy opening to Amla? does strauss want an early bath? this is "aggressive" or "Inventive" captaincy at its worst
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In all honesty I think the real problem is the horrendous schedule they've given themselves over the last 6 months. All the double teapots, mis-fields and having a go at one another in the field is not something I associate at all with Strauss/ Flowers England. Just hope that the tournament does no lasting damage to marale as they look like a group of people who'd benefit from not seeing each other or thinking about cricket for a couple of months.
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In spite of the otherwise shocking performance, Smiths hopeless attempt to play Swann is one of the funnier things I've seen in a while!
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Tbh. . . . i have very little sympathy for England anymore. The selectors havent got a clue. They deserve shooting. how many runs have yardy scored? yardy or rashid?? Prior is disappointing, Chris Read, Mustard, Jones, need to give someone else a chance. Bresnan has suprised me as i didnt rate him.
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People still calling for anderson to be dropped? He can produce deliveries like those
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Yeah, that was a great delivery, but not a very good shot to match...
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Game on now.
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Who cares about the shot? He's a wicket taker, and you need those in your team
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Jean Paul Duminy is the most over rated player in the World. Can't play spin, can't play seam bowling...
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What the hell is happening even I thought this was sa in the bag but woahhhh finally the bowlers doing well
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What in Gods name is happening here?!
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At least England matches are exciting
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yes stuart!
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Tahir looks really happy to be batting
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were going to win the world cup
eyeyee eyeye ohhh
up the cricket here we go
gerronimo
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maggie thatcher
lord scargill
peter such yes peter such
your boys have done you proud
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Choke choke choke
Let's hope the bowlers can keep this up and could be interesting but I'm being reserved
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What a game yet again!!!
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We don't do it easy do we
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Saffas choking again
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Now for the 2 s's show
As a patriot iam over the moon made my day well done lads and well done Bopara
I not his biggest fan but he showed me today and fair play that man
Lets be having you(delia smith style)
Anybody find any negatives get a grip top draw stuff lets get carried away good days ahead
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How did we win that? We'd have probably lost if we'd got a big boy total.
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I was so tempted to put on a bet for an England win at the half way stage, wish I had now..
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I was so tempted to put on a bet for an England win at the half way stage, wish I had now..
What were the odds?
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Because Trott and Bopara batted very well on a bunson burner and our bowlers stayed to a bloody plan
Tell you bar the Ireland fiasco which has woken us up we have played 2 very good games against 2 of the best sides in the world and not lost
The ever key word of momentum is with us now.....
I do not care about any negatives we won and won well...
Good look to Ireland i suspect you might need it...
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It like beating Argentina in the world cup.....
Oh my days happy not half.......................
3 Lions on my shirt
One day a custom bats cricket tour for a week or so watching England
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What were the odds?
From what I remember it was about 9/2
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The pie chucker has got a 5-for against Ireland.
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Trent you are a legend!!!!
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Game on!!!
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Game on indeed
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Game on!!!
need to get 'The little master' out
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kohli and dhoni and yuraj but fair play there doing well
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this boy might play for england one day dockrell....
reminds me of kerrigan
another wicket and there be all going home again
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kohli and dhoni and yuraj but fair play there doing well
agree Dave but one at a time ;)
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That gives us some hope now
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Well bowled George, looking forward to seeing him at Somerset this year
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dockerell even looks like kerrigan
well done get another couple here and history is for the taking
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No matter if Ireland win or lose today, they have given themselves a great showing against India
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they are a very good side and a example to assosiate nations what can be achived and in the future lets hope they follow the path of Sri Lanka
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Stunning display by Yuvraj today, quite remarkable seeing as he's done nothing for almost 18-24 months.
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The ayrtek is getting a longer showing today and some runs being scored in it
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Big Tommy Gun giving it large with a few shots :)
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Unreal hitting by NZ. Taylor, Nathan McCullum and Jacob Oram had the Pakistanis on the run. Stunning hundred by Roscoe!
Last 5 overs got battered for 100 runs!!!
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Pakistan totally imploded there.
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Superb Hitting at the end from NZ, very poor keeping by Akmal though - could've ended Taylors day very early on.
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Tekkers!
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Ross Taylor.....Take a bow son!!!!
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Well batted New Zealand! That's a very large number of runs to score in the last five overs. I suspect there will be allegations from someone, somewhere about something...
Gad, even I'm thinking that following the fun and games in the summer...
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Razzaq is yet to fire this world cup... This game isn't over yet...
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Unreal hitting by NZ. Taylor, Nathan McCullum and Jacob Oram had the Pakistanis on the run. Stunning hundred by Roscoe!
Last 5 overs got battered for 100 runs!!!
!!!!!! is this true lol!
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yeah
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127 off the last 6 overs seemingly.
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Shame because you cant help being suspicious when Pakistan play these days!!!!!!
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I believe it was just Pakistan prob best team in world on there day but don't have it often enough
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Kamran Akmal single handed cost Pakistan the match. If the management drop him after the performance its better it was in the group stage rather than the knock outs.
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All keepers are going to drop catches, granted he maybe drop's more than most but he certainly wasn't fully to blame for the defeat.
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He dropped 4 today mate, 3 of them regulation. With the Kiwis going less than 4 an over around the 35th and had Taylor been out we were looking at a 220 target. Against Sri Lanka Kamran missed 2 stumpings of Sangakarra but he was not in the mood to make Pakistan pay like Taylor. Against Canada he dropped 1 catch and I am not sure about the match against Kenya.
There were other issues in the match as well. Pakistan's opening pair failed again and the team selection was far too defensive for a helpful track. They should have gone with 3 if not 4 front line fast bowlers.
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62 runs from the last 16 balls he faced.
I think it is pretty fair to blame the loss on Kamran Akmal. He is absolutely useless behind the stumps.
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Sri Lanka vs Zim - Zim elect to bowl and Sri Lanka are 244/0 after 41 overs.
I think the skipper might be in for a hard time after that one...!!
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Sri Lanka vs Zim - Zim elect to bowl and Sri Lanka are 244/0 after 41 overs.
I think the skipper might be in for a hard time after that one...!!
Zim have been very unlucky Buzz, numerous mis-hits just avoiding fielders.
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Unlucky or just pants? Nobody is unlucky to the tune of 264/0 surely!
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What do you predict their final score will be?
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Unlucky or just pants? Nobody is unlucky to the tune of 264/0 surely!
Dilshan has mis hit at least 10-15 shots that on another hand would go straight to the fielders.
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They're doing an England at the end of their innings.
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Good recovery by Zim to restrict the Lankans to under 350.
Could be a great game if Taylor can get them off to a good start.
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Insane batting from Dilshan and Tharanga
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So, England have got some selection problems tomorrow.
Bell, Trott or Bopara to open with Strauss for England and Shazad or Tremlett in for Broad.
Personally I would say that Bopara will open as an aggressive partner to Strauss and Tremlett will come in to add a bit of bounce, especially against the tigers.
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Mighty proud to be Sri Lankan!
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Cracking shot by Taylor!
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Is it just me or outside ouf MM and LM does the Sri Lanka attack look very ordinary. Good job they got so many, 250ish and this could have been a game.
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Taylors on fire. could be another ireland moment if it carries on this way
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Shot of the tournament by Ervine, crouching/ducking 4 off the back of his bat behind his head!
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after 2 quick wickets they are gonna need more like that i think
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I wonder who the man of the match will be as no stand out performer ;)
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probably Lamb will get it ;)
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My choice of skipper for my fantasy team looks pretty inspired today!
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Good game of cricket. I was really dissapointed when Taylor got out, I thought he was on for a big'un!
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yeah same, I stopped watching when Taylor got out as it was over then.
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England team:1 Andrew Strauss (capt), 2 Matt Prior (wk), 3 Jonathan Trott, 4 Ian Bell, 5 Eoin Morgan, 6 Ravi Bopara, 7 Paul Collingwood, 8 Tim Bresnan, 9 Graeme Swann, 10 Ajmal Shahzad, 11 James Anderson.
Prior to open & Colly gets another shot. Lots of batting but not enough bowling?
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good to see Eoin back. agree with you on the bowling, should have played tredwell today. but i think this is going to be the balance from now on, 7-4
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Hmm I dunno, I agree with the commentators with the reason they only played one spinner was that Bangladesh are better at playing spin rather than seam bowling.
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Prior what have you done........
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That was ridiculous
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Prior.......oh dear!!!
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how are England not playing 2/3 spinners!?!
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because we have collingwood with his cutters and shahzooom with his reverse swing apparently
the real reason is that there isn't anyone good enough in the squad (I hope Monty is enjoying his pre season training... arggg)
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because we have collingwood with his cutters and shahzooom with his reverse swing apparently
the real reason is that there isn't anyone good enough in the squad (I hope Monty is enjoying his pre season training... arggg)
With Rashid!!!! beggars belief!!!
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Bangladesh have 6-7 left handers, surely the Tredmiester had to play?
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Rashid isn't good enough as a spinner to play solely in that role, he is very talented, but doesn't have the control and variation yet - my sources have suggested that this WC has come a little too early for him and that they don't want him ruined on these dead tracks.
I was expecting Treadwell to play today, I have to admit
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Can someone please explain what Prior did as i didnt see it, some woman has logged onto the computer i was using to stream the cricket... not happy
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Can someone please explain what Prior did as i didnt see it, some woman has logged onto the computer i was using to stream the cricket... not happy
ball went down legside and prior went for a walk, got stumped!!!!
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(No Swearing Please)! every game we seem to be the cause of our own problems, either bowling poorly of batting poorly....lets just hope its gettin it out of the way to come into form if we win today!
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Got to say, Morgan is looking class!!!
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you wouldn't have thought he hasn't played in a good while...
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im so glad hes out there, hes got some serious talent
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Upset on the cards here...come on Ireland!!
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Upset on the cards here...come on Ireland!!
Joyce playing really well, Wilson's having a blinder though! Ahhh they could do this *touches wood* just wish I could watch it, skyplayer won't let me!
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Buggar. Joyce bowled for 84.
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KOB in for Ireland now though, it's still on!
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Okay, I would like people to call the result right now for England v Bangladesh.
Bangladesh win
I know, typical pessimism.
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Okay, I would like people to call the result right now for England v Bangladesh.
Bangladesh win
I know, typical pessimism.
you are only human - I think we will loose to. :(
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I'm going to go for an England win if we get Tamim out fairly quickly.
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cant beleive englands decision to play 4 bowlers, with just one spinner, everyone slates him but we will miss yardy today
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I would've agreed with you if we had bowled first, but Swann can hardly hold onto the ball let alone grip it.
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Brezzer cleans up tamin!
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Thought Wilsons reaction was horrible earlier - hopefully they can throw a big fine his way for that behaviour.
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What did he do?
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Thought Wilsons reaction was horrible earlier - hopefully they can throw a big fine his way for that behaviour.
His decision was justified. Any idiot could see he played a shot, yet Umpire De Silva felt otherwise. Sh!t umpiring.
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Regardless of whether it was right or wrong (and i agree it would be given not out 99 times out of a hundred) you cant stand there arguing a decision. Will be like watching Arsenal and Man Utd chasing referees around the pitch once you let players start behaving in that way!
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Don't agree with Jeet too often, but he's right, terrible decision. He'd played that shot all innings and apparently this time he wasn't. Asoka's let himself down there. Even the UDRS cannot reprieve Wilson, which seems like a joke to me! Clearly not out. also, steiner, if I was given out like that, shown the review, and then still given out like that I'd be fuming, I'm sorry but it's a terrible decision and he had every right to stand his ground on it.
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Wilson was right to stand his ground....he was clearly playing a shot and it was shocking umpiring
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How can you ever be right to stand your ground once given out? Especially after a referral as well - The umpires decision has to be final whether or not you agree with it otherwise there is no game
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Thought Wilsons reaction was horrible earlier - hopefully they can throw a big fine his way for that behaviour.
Is that a joke? What did he do that was out of order? Asked why he was given out when the ball hit him outside the line, umpire then checked for confirmation, he was given out and Wilson walked.
Ridiculous decision anyway, clearly trying to run the ball down to third man, a shot id challenge asoka de silva to play with his bat in front of his pad. Not to mention that they required tens at that point, any batsman padding up at that point in the game would deserve to be given out!
Why do I get the feeling there might be a bit more furore if it was Andrew Strauss or Ricky ponting that was given out playing that shot...
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How can you ever be right to stand your ground once given out? Especially after a referral as well - The umpires decision has to be final whether or not you agree with it otherwise there is no game
For a start, there have been a couple of referrals where the 3rd Ump has made a mistake - Just look at Tony Hill not turning the microphone up in the Ashes! I'd want some sort of clarification for it at least...
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2 different issues here - the rubbish decision and for that matter rubbish referral decision which I agree were a joke. I take issue though with the way Sammy and Pollard seemed to have to persuade him to go off - leaves a sour taste for me that sort of thing, as for that matter does Broads constant pouting and moaning these days - a habit that Anderson seems to be picking up.
Just feels like a general lack of respect creeping into the game of late which seems a real shame as its sportsmanship is what elevates it above many sports.
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There's a difference between showing dissent ala Ponting, to what Wilson did which seemed to be very calmly ask de Silva for clarification after which the umpire decided to check back with the 3rd umpire. When the decision came back the second time, Wilson walked straight off.
I'd agree that there does seem to be a lack of respect creeping into the game, but I don't think this is one of those instances.
Do seem to be some really bad decisions occurring in this World Cup with the UDRS. One instance that not a lot seemed to be made of was when Duminy was given out caught down the legside off Anderson, decision was reviewed, there was nothing to prove that Duminy HADN'T hit the ball yet the decision was overturned. Just seems like the clearly defined rules of using the referral system in which there had to be clear evidence that the on field umpire was WRONG isn't really being followed... Fortunately for England he was out a couple of balls later but Duminy could easily have gone on to win that match for South Africa.
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Yeah - fair point on the whole I think the UDRS is very good just needs sorting out a little, have to remember it's still relatively new though i guess. The NFL is the benchmark for me - their replay/ challenge system is the best in sports imo, precisely because as you say the rules are very clearly defined.
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India vs South AfriA today. India batting first.
Can't believe R Ashwin still hasn't got a game, more so as Harbhajan has been crap.
SA rest Tahir even though he was given the all clear by the doctor, probably saves him getting battered...
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When will Sehwag's run of hitting the first ball for 4 end. (all 5 matches in WC so far)
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Amazing Fightback from SA...7 wickets for 27 runs in 50 balls :o - I doubt Nehra would have thought he'd have been batting when they were 267-1 lol :)
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Amazing Fightback from SA...7 wickets for 27 runs in 50 balls :o - I doubt Nehra would have thought he'd have been batting when they were 267-1 lol :)
Haha yeah, who would have thought that india wouldn't have got to 300?? Credit to SA though as I'm backing india to win! Can't see anyone stopping them!
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terrible use of the batting powerplay. everyone seemed to lose their heads, and tried to belt everything for 4 or 6.
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True these batting powerplays are looking more like bowling ones!
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watching the highlights i see Bangladesh getting a bit chippy there little dwarf keeper giving it big licks...
Funny what beating England and a few others have done..
Quite a arrogant bunch by the looks of it.
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I think I heard that the Bangladeshi fans were at Shakib's house throwing stones towards it or something after the Windies defeat.
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I know they broke some windows on the team bus.
There no doubt there getting better and better remind me of Sri Lanka when they were around the mid to late 80's
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wasnt it the windies team bus they broke the windows of thinking it was the bangladeshi team bus?
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Should be a game in the morning, Ireland Vs SA.
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I think Bangladesh aren't too bad normally, it is understandable to get a bit hyped up - nobody plays any sport to lose do they?
Mushfiqur Rahim definitely went over the top with that celebration although they don't seem overly arrogant to me.
There was a press release which stated the fans didn't know which bus was the Bangladeshi bus, as there is a decoy, a bus for the windies and the bangladeshi bus too and they all look similar - how true that actually is is anybodies guess :)
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The Ireland SA game is poised for a very close game.
SA 96-4, AB not playing, Kallis, Amla, Smith Van Wyk all gone.
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Superb batting early doors by Cananda.
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Just as a wrote this, they lost their first wicket...
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This Patel chap is caning the Aussies....he does seem to like pace on the ball....gripping stuff.
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Tait just killed that fella batting with that full toss. Below waist high though so technically there isnt anything wrong with it is there?
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146km/h beamer to the crotch and i would not be getting back up !
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Nothing wrong with it, but like the ball before a full ball hit his pads and it knocked him over! Good bowling imo to go for the full toss as it was clear that the batsman wasn't comfortable facing that pace.
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Liked it when the commentator said that he hoped the Canadian already had kids :D
The missus would be mighty pissed off if they were trying for a baby and she saw that happen :o
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The Ireland Holland game is going to be interesting - http://www.espncricinfo.com/icc_cricket_worldcup2011/engine/current/match/433595.html
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Sounds like it's gonna be a cracker....
My money's on the Irish!
I'm just watching the Sri Lanka game, is there a better Wk batsman in this tournament than kumar?
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Gonna be a whole load more exciting now...
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Backed Ireland inrunning at 3/1 earlier
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Mahela once again refuses to walk when the fielder claims the catch, the guy is a disgrace
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i really didnt like that! It has been done to many times now, im a batter and i think with situations like that, the benefit of the doubt should go with the fielder... gutted for New Zealand and Mccullum
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It's the way of cricket now most batsmen will stand there ground as tv will get them off it's not right but it's the way it's done
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TV ump should sacked as well, clueless
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Didn't see it, but from what my twitter feed was telling me it was a terrible decision?
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Mahela once again refuses to walk when the fielder claims the catch, the guy is a disgrace
i think the majority of top btsmen in world cricket would prob stand their ground. They know that if there is any doubt it will be given not out!i think sachin would walk off though.
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i think the majority of top btsmen in world cricket would prob stand their ground. They know that if there is any doubt it will be given not out!i think sachin would walk off though.
There was no doubt tho! It would be the equivalent off me edging the ball to gully and refusing to walk off.
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the replays did look clear ur right there jeet, but if mahela had an element of doubt from where he stood you cant be surprised he stood his ground!Branding little Jahela a disgrace is harsh man!Have you heard him in interviews he sounds like such a sweet guy! Love his deflection to fine fine third man, such a classy shot.should have been playing it in the pavilion though not out in the middle,granted!
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Jeet
The umpires are there to do a job if it was your little master would you be saying the same
Let the umpires do there job if they get it wrong hayho
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Jade Durnbach has had the call up... :o !!
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yeh surprised they overlooked woakes after he did ok last time
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Woakes isn't quick enough and could get destroyed on these pitches...
I said you should get one of your lids to Jade...!!
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yeah he did ok woakes allthough giving some one else a shot might not be a bad move?
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haha trying mate Chris Adams text yesterday so were off down to see the Surrey squad this time next week
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Jeet
The umpires are there to do a job if it was your little master would you be saying the same
Let the umpires do there job if they get it wrong hayho
No I'd be embarrassed if Tendulkar did what Mahela did
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Dernbach is (in my opinion) a decent selection. Very quick, bit of movement in the air, gets seam movement as well from what I remember. Can be expensive but considering there are a lot of flat decks, I don't think he'll exactly be the only person to get a bit of tap if he plays.
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i would have taken glen chapple but his ship has sailed long time ago
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Nice to see more Surrey players in the England squad.
Dernbach is a good choice, good chance of pace and gets reverse swing
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Humm - yet more SA regects... :(
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We could still be going out
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Southee's bat looks a beaut!
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Have you heard him in interviews he sounds like such a sweet guy! Love his deflection to fine fine third man, such a classy shot.should have been playing it in the pavilion though not out in the middle,granted!
Having met the guy, I can tell you he's anything but ...
Plays good cricket tho, and that is *all* that matters...
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That is poor form by Ponting. I can't believe he didnt walk after clearly edging it, I can honestly say that what he just did is very un Aussie
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or if your Indian, then thats very Aussie like, ahah ;). I always find it rich when they say Aussies are cheats seeing as the only walker I have ever seen who got called back but kept going, is Gilchrist on 2 occasions.
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It's well known Aussie batsmen are told not to walk as most batsmen don't these days
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I don't think it's nation-related about walking!!
There are very few batsmen who walk these days!!! Gilly used to walk but I don't think anyone else stands out as being that honest!
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I don't think it's nation-related about walking!!
There are very few batsmen who walk these days!!! Gilly used to walk but I don't think anyone else stands out as being that honest!
Pretty sure Kallis and Amla walk, Sachin probably does as well. Seem to remember in Trescothick's autobiography that he felt that you get enough bad decisions go against you that you should take the smooth with the rough, and if the ump doesn't give you out then you're not out, essentially!
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That's the thing if you walk you can feel a little aggrieved at a bad decision but if you don't walk don't moan when you get a bad decision which is what atherton used to say
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Hussey walks for sure
I used to walk until i got sick of being triggered so (No Swearing Please) there getting paid to umpire so i say umpire
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It's well known Aussie batsmen are told not to walk as most batsmen don't these days
Well I'm an Aussie and I have never ever been told not to walk. Some of the older players say they have had enough bad decisions so they leave to the umpire. But personally, I naturally start to walk so I just keep walking and I have been called back twice but I kept walking.
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Just going by an interview years ago with ponting where he said we are taught not to walk in Australia and that gilly was the only one who did
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Hussey walks for sure
I used to walk until i got sick of being triggered so (No Swearing Please) there getting paid to umpire so i say umpire
I'm in the same boat mate
Take the rough with the smooth
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only walk when you run out of petrol.........
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Ponting's a cock if you ask me.
He's all ways going on about opposition players should walk when they edge it or the the fielders word on catches, yet you seldom see him walking when he edges it. Gamesmanship from Ponting
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Its not that he wants them to walk when edging it, he wants the batsmen to walk if the fielder says that they have caught it. Two different things there.
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I personally dont like Ponting, but walking when the fielder says they have caught it, I agree with.
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In this case fielder and keeper was also sure he had edged it.
When Pakistani players reviewed the decision it means they were confident and sure he had edged it.
Don't find two different things here.
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Its not that he wants them to walk when edging it, he wants the batsmen to walk if the fielder says that they have caught it. Two different things there.
That's fair enough but do you seriously think that Pontin would walk if an opposition fielder said that he caught him out, and there was doubt?
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That's fair enough but do you seriously think that Pontin would walk if an opposition fielder said that he caught him out, and there was doubt?
Doubt it Pete, Ponting wants it all his own way....
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This is the problem with the DRS, you dont need half the ball to hit the stumps, you only need it to clip the stumps and the bails will come off. Imo, if the ball is hitting at all, then its out as his pads got in the way of the ball hitting the stumps. It basically a free ticket
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Agree to an extent, they need to alter it a bit i think, if over half the ball is hitting then it shouldnt stay with the onfield call.
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Brainless cricket from Afridi. What a surprise.
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That's fair enough but do you seriously think that Pontin would walk if an opposition fielder said that he caught him out, and there was doubt?
lol, we're having hypothetical character assassinations now.......great post