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[T-Rapta]

anyone think its worth giving rashid a go ?

Moeen Ali is better and then Samit Patel in my opinion.

[Gurujames]

At the end of the day England do not have 11 good enough players to challenge the best in the world. It's the same with the football fans. We are simply not good enough whoever is in the team.

[ProCricketer1982]

At the end of the day England do not have 11 good enough players to challenge the best in the world. It's the same with the football fans. We are simply not good enough whoever is in the team.

so, the question then is why.. Why is it smaller nations (population wise and development wise) are ahead of us then? Ok, the odd player will come through who is better but why is the avg player better than our average player?? How do we make ours better? How do we spot the talent that we are so obviously missing now? how do we develop it?

Do we need to pay these guys more money?
Do we need more coaches?
Do we need to get more people playing the game?
Do we need counties to pay their players more?
Are they more competitive?
Do our players just not 'want' it?
Do they have better coaches?
If so, do we need to find better ones and sack the current lot? (how do you identify the good from the bad!)
Do we need more silly u19 T20 blast type stuff to find these guys?

[awp]

I just dont undersrand the thinking behind leaving stokes out.......

[Sam]

I'm quite sure the thinking was he made himself unselectable after Sri Lanka  .

[smilley792]

I'm quite sure the thinking was he made himself unselectable after Sri Lanka  .

So does one have to go from playing every game to wilderness? As opposed to being merely dropped to squad members while working on the game?

Not to mention they played him as a bowler who bats a bit. When he seems to succeed as a batsmen that bowls a bit in every other team he plays.

But then england love to bat people out of position.

"Taylor seems to have made 3 his own. Let's bat him at 6 instead"

[FvanN]

England's biggest problem is not really the pool of player's they have but rather the guys who have somehow managed to get in a position of running English cricket.

[Sam]

So does one have to go from playing every game to wilderness? As opposed to being merely dropped to squad members while working on the game?

Not to mention they played him as a bowler who bats a bit. When he seems to succeed as a batsmen that bowls a bit in every other team he plays.

But then england love to bat people out of position.

"Taylor seems to have made 3 his own. Let's bat him at 6 instead"

People seem to forget half his ODI games have been in the top 6 and he still hasn't impressed. If someone unselectable you can't waste a spot in the WC squad on them, especially when you're only taking 15.

If you want to move up the order you either have to impress when you get selected there, or impress lower down and move up, of which Stokes did neither.

[Bats_Entertainment]

At the end of the day England do not have 11 good enough players to challenge the best in the world.

What utter nonsense.

[Bats_Entertainment]

I just dont undersrand the thinking behind leaving stokes out.......

He had a terrible run of form?

[ProCricketer1982]

What utter nonsense.

Is it?? What players can compete with aus, no and sa then? Obviously these ones can't as they keep getting battered.. Not just best.. But battered out of sight

[Cowcorner]

I think we should bring Trott back, Stokes is a man renewed and in dangerous form, I like Taylor and think he will go well, Ravi is at the last chance saloon. When the Lions squad looks more successful than the actual squad you know that something isn't quite working....

[Bats_Entertainment]

Is it?? What players can compete with aus, no and sa then? Obviously these ones can't as they keep getting battered.. Not just best.. But battered out of sight

It's not long ago we were rated the best side in the world. We are in transition.

JT is a far better player than Steve Smith was when he broke into the Aus side, for example.

[awp]

He had a terrible run of form?

Is that so.  I only watch Australia's games so wouldn't know whats gone on else where.  He was useful in BBL recently and is well suited to Australian conditions and atleast plays with heart. 

[awp]

It's not long ago we were rated the best side in the world. We are in transition.

For 6 months wasnt it? You hanging your hat on that? When its decades, then trot it out.....