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Re: Cricket Bat Manufacturers vs. Cricket Bat Brands
« Reply #90 on: October 18, 2015, 12:16:13 PM »

Well that escalated quickly! Jesus! Haha!

Not overly bothered by mainstream bats anymore, since being on here (and being convinced by a teammate), I'm now all about the custom made handmade specialists such as Kippax etc. although Kippax have taken a backseat now as they want more than my paltry budget can afford! Totally agree with the philosophy, although very extreme; I think as long as you guys are open and are able to handpick the bats you stock (as some low grade bats look great, yet some top grade bats look rubbish), then best of luck to it! Hope it works out for you!

Thanks Ollie! I think you've hit the nail on the head. The aim of the game is to get the best value for money for our customers, whether that be in a £100 bat or a £400 bat - the customer has the right to expect the very best of that price point and grade - and that's what we feel we can achieve by this dedication to handpicking!

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« Reply #91 on: October 18, 2015, 01:05:20 PM »

Thanks Doctor! I think we are trying very hard to distinguish ourselves, and like people say, the handpicking element is about creating an identity for IJC, one which we believe in and can make us happy doing our job.

Newbery has been mentioned by a few people here, and is a bit of a difficult one to categorise really. They might not make them per se, but they have complete control over the manufacturing process. They can make bats to any shape (like the Platinums), they can talk to you in detail about the pressing, the shaping, the shoulder scalloping of the blade etc, they can turn bats around instantly, so they pretty much do make them themselves. Not only that, they have been incredibly open and informative with ourselves (IJC), allowing us to build up a relationship and trust with them. So to say all they do is add the stickers, when actually they design the stickers, the shape, assess the pressing, and do countless other things, is a bit of a misnomer. Hence why we went with them for the Platinum - they offered a unique service, they do it well, and they are an honest company. Simple really!
With that being said about Newberys openness, can you explain what the special pressing entails on the Kudos 2 and why it adds $$ to the bat?
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Re: Cricket Bat Manufacturers vs. Cricket Bat Brands
« Reply #92 on: October 18, 2015, 01:48:29 PM »

With that being said about Newberys openness, can you explain what the special pressing entails on the Kudos 2 and why it adds $$ to the bat?

Its been asked before, IJC havent ever really been able to shed much light on it from memoery, although in their defence Newnery dont do it very well themselves so hard to imagine their customers to do a better job!
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« Reply #93 on: October 18, 2015, 02:45:38 PM »

Following this Topic has been intriguing I would say B&S get 5-6 Perfect clefts out of every 25 they buy . If they let all there retailers come and hand pick there Bats and they only pick the good ones who buys the other 20 ?
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« Reply #94 on: October 18, 2015, 02:50:33 PM »

Following this Topic has been intriguing I would say B&S get 5-6 Perfect clefts out of every 25 they buy . If they let all there retailers come and hand pick there Bats and they only pick the good ones who buys the other 20 ?

You have just summed up why their hand picking is a good way to go. You then only get the bats you want (although, you can only pick from the selection you see. If someone has been before you or the maker hides some for others then you miss out).

Completely get your point Gary btw, but I can understand why a customer might not want to receive one of those 20
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« Reply #95 on: October 18, 2015, 03:03:23 PM »

The other 20 are obviously still used they either become very good grade 2 or turn into top junior bats as I sell directly to Public where possible customers come and choose there bats I also travel a lot and vist various clubs on set nights there by letting there members choose from the stock I have . If I only sold to Retailers I would expect them to take a cross section of my stock and not just the lightest and best Fair to all retailers I think
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« Reply #96 on: October 18, 2015, 03:55:19 PM »

You have just summed up why their hand picking is a good way to go. You then only get the bats you want (although, you can only pick from the selection you see. If someone has been before you or the maker hides some for others then you miss out).

Completely get your point Gary btw, but I can understand why a customer might not want to receive one of those 20

I agree handpicking is a nice touch but it depends on who is picking the bat. If they couldnt pick a good bat from a plank it isnt an advantage at all. I'm not suggesting anyone on here who does hand pick doesnt know what they are doing but it isnt a foolproof method of getting a good bat
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« Reply #97 on: October 18, 2015, 03:56:35 PM »

I cant think of any that make there own handles as not cost effective.

Charlie French and Warsop make handles.
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Re: Cricket Bat Manufacturers vs. Cricket Bat Brands
« Reply #98 on: October 18, 2015, 10:08:53 PM »

In reply to B and S -

You perfectly did sum up our point. You admitted that 20 bats which might not be the same brilliant quality would have to be sold, and these would be sold to less fussy shops, therefore admitting that shops who don't handpick are more likely to get bats which aren't quite as good. They may still be very good, but not the same as those 5 or 6. That's why we handpick - to trawl through and select the absolute best ones!

I agree that it depends who selects the bat - if it is an average Joe who doesn't know much about bats then it makes no difference. However, anyone who follows our YouTube channel even half closely will know, without boasting, know a lot about our game, and therefore would back ourselves to pick the best bats available - and our happy customers seem to reflect that. You only have to look at the bats on our shelves, or in our videos, to see what we mean. Think Kookaburra Instinct 300 from this year, or Gray Nics Nemesis 4 star, off the top of my head.

Finally, as regards Newbery, I can't spread too much light on that. Without meaning to duck the question, we want to be open and honest, but there are limits to what we are allowed to spread!

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Re: Cricket Bat Manufacturers vs. Cricket Bat Brands
« Reply #99 on: October 19, 2015, 10:16:41 AM »

Charlie French and Warsop make handles.
So do I, but only for the love (although can be a pain sometimes).

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Re: Cricket Bat Manufacturers vs. Cricket Bat Brands
« Reply #100 on: October 19, 2015, 10:47:21 AM »

In reply to B and S -

I agree that it depends who selects the bat - if it is an average Joe who doesn't know much about bats then it makes no difference. However, anyone who follows our YouTube channel even half closely will know, without boasting, know a lot about our game, and therefore would back ourselves to pick the best bats available - and our happy customers seem to reflect that. You only have to look at the bats on our shelves, or in our videos, to see what we mean. Think Kookaburra Instinct 300 from this year, or Gray Nics Nemesis 4 star, off the top of my head.

This might not possibly work as you might not want to tell people yur technique/secrets but perhaps your next post could be about how to hand select a good bat
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Re: Cricket Bat Manufacturers vs. Cricket Bat Brands
« Reply #101 on: October 19, 2015, 12:31:04 PM »

That sounds like a very good idea - watch this space!

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Re: Cricket Bat Manufacturers vs. Cricket Bat Brands
« Reply #102 on: October 20, 2015, 01:02:51 PM »

For a little bit of evidence about our hand picking, check out our latest post relating to our new SF and CA bats! Absolute beauties!

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Re: Cricket Bat Manufacturers vs. Cricket Bat Brands
« Reply #103 on: October 21, 2015, 05:49:06 AM »

Is there a ping guarantee?
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Re: Cricket Bat Manufacturers vs. Cricket Bat Brands
« Reply #104 on: October 21, 2015, 11:37:13 AM »

Is there a ping guarantee?

Ha, actually yes! At least a guarantee that we think they ping well.  I admit this is no guarantee that you will agree, but usually our customers do.
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