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Re: England Vs India Test Matches
« Reply #90 on: July 25, 2018, 08:52:06 PM »
Quote from: alexevo94 on July 25, 2018, 08:36:53 PM
Sorry my bad, what’s the status on TRJ last time I read about him he was out for the season. That still the case?

Yep he suffered a recurrence of a stress fracture in his back in April and is out for the season.
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Re: England Vs India Test Matches
« Reply #91 on: July 25, 2018, 09:01:35 PM »
Quote from: six and out on July 25, 2018, 08:52:06 PM
Yep he suffered a recurrence of a stress fracture in his back in April and is out for the season.

Such a shame he bowled so well against South Africa.
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Re: England Vs India Test Matches
« Reply #92 on: July 25, 2018, 09:49:02 PM »
Quote from: petehosk on July 25, 2018, 08:21:10 PM
Spill the beans Tom...Which one are you going as?
I reckon the the Red Indian headress is too much for this weather, the leather biker bloke is too hot and sticky! I suspect you will be either construction guy or Cowboy....touting the mandatory tache!!  :D

You sir are correct, I got dumped into the construction worker group and thankfully avoided the biker outfit as faux leather isn’t going to be enjoyable in this heat as u say.
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Re: England Vs India Test Matches
« Reply #93 on: July 25, 2018, 10:06:20 PM »
Quote from: Johnny on July 25, 2018, 06:52:19 PM
Bringing mo back seems a backward step, especially to bat no higher than 8. Would rather Bess got another go

Even Sangakkara said Ali was a better genuine spinner than Bess (in the build up to the roses T20 game the other night).

Bess/Leach's (add any other spinner here) stock rises when Ali gets a bit of tap on the test scene but ultimately Ali has been the best proven spinner in an England shirt bar Swann in the past decade. We all know he can bat, but for England he's predominantly a spinner and he does a good job. I mean, he's just had a stand off against Leach in the Worcs vs Somerset game and Ali has taken 8 wickets compared to Leach's 2.
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Re: England Vs India Test Matches
« Reply #94 on: July 25, 2018, 10:20:15 PM »
Quote from: six and out on July 25, 2018, 08:17:05 PM
Malan is the batter quoted as the one who would be dropped to get Mo in to give you a 6 man attack with 2 spinners.

Essentially you would have -

Cook, Jennings, Root, Bairstow, Stokes, Butler, Mo, Woakes/Curran/Overton, Leach, Broad, Anderson.

Harsh on Malam, and counterproductive as we need to know if he is Test class or not. Also, YJB keeping at four is too.much, as is Butter at six.. to make the personnel work, either Ali bats four, or bats six and Butter keeps
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Re: England Vs India Test Matches
« Reply #95 on: July 26, 2018, 01:33:28 AM »
Quote from: mattw on July 25, 2018, 10:06:20 PM
Even Sangakkara said Ali was a better genuine spinner than Bess (in the build up to the roses T20 game the other night).

Bess/Leach's (add any other spinner here) stock rises when Ali gets a bit of tap on the test scene but ultimately Ali has been the best proven spinner in an England shirt bar Swann in the past decade.


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Re: England Vs India Test Matches
« Reply #96 on: July 26, 2018, 03:56:45 AM »
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Re: England Vs India Test Matches
« Reply #97 on: July 26, 2018, 07:57:39 AM »
Really looking forward to the Hollies Stand this Friday!

Hopefully the weather stays like this and it’s a stunning days Cricket!
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Re: England Vs India Test Matches
« Reply #98 on: July 26, 2018, 11:13:57 AM »
Rashid and Ali in Bess and leach out

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Re: England Vs India Test Matches
« Reply #99 on: July 26, 2018, 11:16:52 AM »
So call ups for Mo as predicted but also for Porter and Rashid.

Sam Curran also keeps his place.

No Woakes, Leach or Bess apparently all due to fitness and lack of red ball cricket form etc...

https://amp.theguardian.com/sport/2018/jul/26/adil-rashid-recalled-england-test-squad-india-cricket?CMP=share_btn_tw&__twitter_impression=true
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Re: England Vs India Test Matches
« Reply #100 on: July 26, 2018, 11:16:59 AM »
more confused now. either im not getting it or the selectors don't know what they are doing

I just don't get how Bess was the best available last match because Leach was injured, now neither can get in as first choice....


don't make any sense to me
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Re: England Vs India Test Matches
« Reply #101 on: July 26, 2018, 11:36:09 AM »
Delighted Porter has got the nod, Rashid is maybe the right call, but leaves a bad taste in the mouth.
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Re: England Vs India Test Matches
« Reply #102 on: July 26, 2018, 11:38:04 AM »
Quote from: ppccopener on July 26, 2018, 11:16:59 AM
more confused now. either im not getting it or the selectors don't know what they are doing

I just don't get how Bess was the best available last match because Leach was injured, now neither can get in as first choice....


don't make any sense to me

Although I don't agree with it, I can completely see how it's happened.

Since the Pakistan series finished Bess has only played 4 games including the lions game and has bowled limited overs and taken no wickets. Leach is even fewer.

This isn't their fault entirely Leach was injured and neither play white ball for Somerset. They also cancel each other out if Somerset only play 1 spinner.

All the while this is going on with England's Summer extravaganza of white ball cricket Rashid and Mo are bowling lots and doing great in a winning team etc...

So I can see how it's happened.
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Re: England Vs India Test Matches
« Reply #103 on: July 26, 2018, 11:38:41 AM »
I like Rashid and felt that post-Swann he was the man England should have backed over Moeen but it does send a bit of an odd message picking him now.
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Re: England Vs India Test Matches
« Reply #104 on: July 26, 2018, 11:49:31 AM »
Quote from: six and out on July 26, 2018, 11:38:04 AM
Although I don't agree with it, I can completely see how it's happened.

Since the Pakistan series finished Bess has only played 4 games including the lions game and has bowled limited overs and taken no wickets. Leach is even fewer.

This isn't their fault entirely Leach was injured and neither play white ball for Somerset. They also cancel each other out if Somerset only play 1 spinner.

All the while this is going on with England's Summer extravaganza of white ball cricket Rashid and Mo are bowling lots and doing great in a winning team etc...

So I can see how it's happened.

yes, I get that, no one has played much red ball cricket thou. How many innings has Cook had? a couple.

in which case alex hales and Jason roy could be picked on the back of good one day performances,essentially the selectors are saying there's no difference and past performances in tests(the last test) count for not much.

I understand it, and I think it's massively unfair. personally I don't think the selectors know their bum from their elbow.



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