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Re: England tour of New Zealand 2019/20
« Reply #300 on: November 30, 2019, 08:07:58 PM »

I don’t think Archer has much respect for him. Think he would choose Morgan over him every single time. I noticed the body language yesterday too... the whole team looked a bit lethargic and not up for the fight. Root’s captaincy is totally uninspiring. If he’s going to stay in the job he really needs to pick the brains of Vaughan and Strauss, who have been two of the best man managers in red ball cricket in the last 20 years for England.

Hmmm..interesting take on things. Giles saying Root will be captain in 24 matches time is insanity, he has no feel for the job and it’s affecting his batting- you cannot argue with stats since taking over, don’t like only figures myself, but they rarely lie.

As for Archer, misused by Root yes, in the summer and now, but I guess a lot maybe down to the player himself, bowling in tests is hard work on batter friendly wickets. I think he is a limited overs bowler...and will have a very short test career...just a gut feeling.

The one thing you can do if skippering is not natural is lead from the front but Roots own game is suffering.i feel a bit sorry for him actually.

Sometimes the hard decision is better taken early, wonder if the England management can see it and ignore it or not see it at all
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Re: England tour of New Zealand 2019/20
« Reply #301 on: November 30, 2019, 08:26:53 PM »

Hmmm..interesting take on things. Giles saying Root will be captain in 24 matches time is insanity, he has no feel for the job and it’s affecting his batting- you cannot argue with stats since taking over, don’t like only figures myself, but they rarely lie.

As for Archer, misused by Root yes, in the summer and now, but I guess a lot maybe down to the player himself, bowling in tests is hard work on batter friendly wickets. I think he is a limited overs bowler...and will have a very short test career...just a gut feeling.

The one thing you can do if skippering is not natural is lead from the front but Roots own game is suffering.i feel a bit sorry for him actually.

Sometimes the hard decision is better taken early, wonder if the England management can see it and ignore it or not see it at all

I genuinely do not think Giles is capable of making a tough decision. He doesn’t strike me as the sort of person who would take Root/Silverwood/Ed Smith to one side and say “sorry, this isn’t working and we need to make a change ASAP”. I think he will wait for Root to say he’s had enough. The ECB are suffering from weak leadership from top to bottom. The current set up could set England back years.

Maybe a 2-0 drubbing by NZ, and a 4-0 defeat in SA may make people realise there are serious problems.

What baffles me (and I apologise for continuing to whine about him) is how Ed Bloody Smith is continuing to avoid any criticism in the media. His selections have been nothing short of disastrous. Having heard from some of the Kent guys what a complete dick he was in the dressing room in the early 2000s, it doesn’t surprise me that his selections are thick with his customary “I know better than you” arrogance.

Please come back, Mr Strauss... your country needs you.
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Re: England tour of New Zealand 2019/20
« Reply #302 on: November 30, 2019, 08:46:49 PM »

Is this the same Ashley Giles who sacked Ramprakash and Flower ?
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« Reply #303 on: November 30, 2019, 08:53:28 PM »

Is this the same Ashley Giles who sacked Ramprakash and Flower ?

Fair point. That said, Stevie Wonder could have seen that Ramps as a batting coach wasn’t working. As for getting shot of Flower, I think he’ll live to regret it. Him and Strauss did wonders for English cricket, and I think it’s a huge mistake for someone with such a stellar track record to have been cast aside.
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Re: England tour of New Zealand 2019/20
« Reply #304 on: November 30, 2019, 09:07:39 PM »

How many’s Root gonna get?
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« Reply #305 on: November 30, 2019, 09:11:46 PM »

How many’s Root gonna get?
Serious pressure

The weather forecast has improved - no rain in Hamilton until Tuesday now. Overcast this morning... Root out within the first 30 minutes and England all out halfway through the afternoon session. Only Sir Ben Stokes, with his beautiful GM bats can save us from certain defeat.
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Re: England tour of New Zealand 2019/20
« Reply #306 on: November 30, 2019, 09:38:05 PM »

England haven’t made 400 for two years. The ODI side have done it twice over the same period.

There’s definitely nothing wrong with the test setup...
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Re: England tour of New Zealand 2019/20
« Reply #307 on: November 30, 2019, 09:39:27 PM »

How many’s Root gonna get?
Serious pressure

The flat track specialist is due
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Re: England tour of New Zealand 2019/20
« Reply #308 on: November 30, 2019, 09:45:41 PM »

The flat track specialist is due

Ian Bell is playing?  :D
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Re: England tour of New Zealand 2019/20
« Reply #309 on: December 01, 2019, 12:00:55 AM »

Decent session that. Need to up the run rate though if they're serious about just batting once...
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Re: England tour of New Zealand 2019/20
« Reply #310 on: December 01, 2019, 03:56:55 AM »

Batted joe, ground that ton out
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Re: England tour of New Zealand 2019/20
« Reply #311 on: December 01, 2019, 05:12:21 AM »

Good from Burns and Root.
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Re: England tour of New Zealand 2019/20
« Reply #312 on: December 01, 2019, 07:59:12 AM »

Much more like the Root of old as he carried on, class to watch. Great from Burnsy as well
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Re: England tour of New Zealand 2019/20
« Reply #313 on: December 01, 2019, 08:12:38 AM »

Good innings from Burns and Root. Not entirely sure where Root’s power has gone when driving though?

Still over 100 behind, so let’s not get too excited just yet. Hopefully Joe will be able to start again, which he’s not been great at in the past, and I’d love to see Pope get some runs. I feel that he just needs to get a 50, then he’ll feel he belongs and start churning out the runs.
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Re: England tour of New Zealand 2019/20
« Reply #314 on: December 01, 2019, 08:22:35 AM »

The flat track specialist is due

No surprise that roots got a 100 on a road
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