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Re: ENG vs IND series
« Reply #105 on: February 04, 2021, 11:28:43 AM »
Quote from: Alvaro on February 04, 2021, 10:33:05 AM
Two hundreds last tour from Moeen
Very true, think the realistic spot for him would be as a batting allrounder but Stokes very much has that place occupied.
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Re: ENG vs IND series
« Reply #106 on: February 04, 2021, 11:29:47 AM »
If I had to pick I'd go with

Burns
Sibley
Lawrence
Root
Stokes
Pope
Buttler
Ali
Archer
Anderson or Broad
Leach.

If the pitch is as Green as suggested by the groundsman in interview I'd seriously consider playing both Anderson and Broad ahead of Archer and hoping we bowl first. Take the game by the scruff with early wickets.

If it looks like your standard flat, dry Indian pitch Id keep Archer in the team above. The Extra pace will be needed
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Re: ENG vs IND series
« Reply #107 on: February 04, 2021, 12:01:25 PM »
They’ve basically said Pope will be at 3 haven’t they?
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Re: ENG vs IND series
« Reply #108 on: February 04, 2021, 12:20:31 PM »
Quote from: Kulli on February 04, 2021, 12:01:25 PM
They’ve basically said Pope will be at 3 haven’t they?

Have they? I don't mind that.
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Re: ENG vs IND series
« Reply #109 on: February 04, 2021, 12:24:04 PM »
Quote from: six and out on February 04, 2021, 11:15:41 AM
I do think Ali is an option, but I suppose it comes down to what do the management think we need runs or an extra bowler.

I think by batting Stokes at 3 you severely dent the amount of overs he can bowl though, and he may be needed for some wonder spells on flat pitches to make something happen etc....

I was influenced by the person mentioning Ali's hundreds. Agree with the point about Stokes and bowling.
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Re: ENG vs IND series
« Reply #110 on: February 04, 2021, 12:31:28 PM »
Quote from: Bats_Entertainment on February 04, 2021, 12:20:31 PM
Have they? I don't mind that.
cant find it now but sure I read a quote that, at the very least, hinted strongly that would be the case.
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Re: ENG vs IND series
« Reply #111 on: February 04, 2021, 12:34:46 PM »
Quote from: Kulli on February 04, 2021, 12:31:28 PM
cant find it now but sure I read a quote that, at the very least, hinted strongly that would be the case.

I've read things along the lines of 'set to replace Crawley'. But didn"t necessarily interpret as 'will bat at 3'.
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Re: ENG vs IND series
« Reply #112 on: February 04, 2021, 01:05:18 PM »
Think Lawrence makes more sense at 3 given he's had recent game time. Get Pope back in at 6 to give him an easier reintroduction.
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Re: ENG vs IND series
« Reply #113 on: February 04, 2021, 01:33:17 PM »
I think Pope will stay 6 myself. I think England will pick Ali also and that might mean no place for Bess if here is any signs of life in the wicket. There might be given India's strong seam attack but at the backend of the game it may revert to type. Ashwin is one of their guns and they won't want a wicket that nullifies him.

Batting order I know lots on here don't believe in moving Root from 4 but for 2 games he def should bat three.

That leaves Lawrence a place down at 4,Stokes 5,Pope 6 and Butler-Ali or Bess next maybe.

I don't really want to see Stokes at 3 and Lawrence has done well but he is a prospect at the moment- much prefer a senior player stepping up for the team.

As for expectations for this tour as @wasted_talent posted, I think us supporters need to get a bit real, we got runs last time and still lost 0-4 and India are on a high.

I want to see the team sticking together when it gets tough and patience with the younger players. And that's all really.
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Re: ENG vs IND series
« Reply #114 on: February 04, 2021, 02:16:04 PM »
Why does Pope deserve protection but Lawrence doesn't? Is it a social class thing?
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Re: ENG vs IND series
« Reply #115 on: February 04, 2021, 02:27:59 PM »
I understand the logic behind Pope being re introduced at 5/6. But he must be a real long term candidate to bat at 3? With Root at 4.
Then depending on how you want to line up bowlers you can have Stokes at 5/6. Then your extra batter currently Lawrence slots in or not.

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Re: ENG vs IND series
« Reply #116 on: February 04, 2021, 02:38:56 PM »
Quote from: Bats_Entertainment on February 04, 2021, 02:16:04 PM
Why does Pope deserve protection but Lawrence doesn't? Is it a social class thing?

?? What on earth are you on about? What social class.

you think the batting line up and team is deceided by a telegram from Lords whilst the members are getting high on gin and tonic?
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Re: ENG vs IND series
« Reply #117 on: February 04, 2021, 02:40:07 PM »
This whole thing shows again that for years we've had a makeshift list of players at #3 who historically don't bat there often and being made to do it.

Anyone else yearning for 2014 era Gary Ballance? Ah.
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Re: ENG vs IND series
« Reply #118 on: February 04, 2021, 02:42:14 PM »
Quote from: Bats_Entertainment on February 04, 2021, 02:16:04 PM
Why does Pope deserve protection but Lawrence doesn't? Is it a social class thing?

No idea where you're getting this "social class" thing from.

Pope is coming back from a fairly long injury lay off and hasn't played a competitive game in quite a while, Lawrence has just played two test matches. That's why.
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Re: ENG vs IND series
« Reply #119 on: February 04, 2021, 02:44:22 PM »
Quote from: ppccopener on February 04, 2021, 02:38:56 PM
?? What on earth are you on about? What social class.

you think the batting line up and team is deceided by a telegram from Lords whilst the members are getting high on gin and tonic?

What on earth could I possibly be on about?
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