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Companies => Off-the-shelf companies => Topic started by: Ayrtek Cricket on October 11, 2017, 07:44:39 PM
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Severing ties it seems, who’s going to pick him up?
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Judging by the aus vs England thread, I'd say definately not @Neon Cricket............ Lol
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Haha no comment :D
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Judging by the aus vs England thread, I'd say definately not @Neon Cricket............ Lol
I'd donate £10 towards @Neon Cricket to sponsor his for the ashes.
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Have they just had to do that because of the general situation... or do they know something we don't?
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I'd donate £10 towards @Neon Cricket to sponsor his for the ashes.
Forum whip round, great shout - just another 99,990 to go!
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Sponsorship these days is big business, Companies expect the right image in return for some huge money.
If you look at Roger Federer for example, a clean image and personality is what they want and look at the sponsors he has. modern day sport you don't need to be the best to make millions, Sharapova earns more than Williams in women's tennis with about 90 per cent less titles for example.
I think this was to be expected, the Stokes case has been done on another thread and everyone has an opinion.
At least today he has apologised for the Katie price video. If you mess up in life(was going to type something else there!) you man up and apologise.
At least he has done that.
Aa Asian brand may not be affected by bad publicity in England thou so maybe that would be a possibility.
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I think Stokes has limited options so perhaps is putting in a bulk order of blank goods from Online Stockist?!
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Who was he with before - bet they'll have him back?
Good on NB - whether he's guilty or not, it's not nice viewing if you're the guy who employed hm as a brand ambassador - someone's obviously made a ballsy decision.
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Who was he with before - bet they'll have him back?
Puma
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Who was he with before - bet they'll have him back?
Good on NB - whether he's guilty or not, it's not nice viewing if you're the guy who employed hm as a brand ambassador - someone's obviously made a ballsy decision.
Space in the lineup for a pwoppa batzman now Bruce :)
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This was bound to happen. You just can't put up a mighty brawl/show on candid camera and expect no consequences these days.
Alex Hales has been very lucky in all this. He literally and figuratively ducked out of the dark valley scot-free.
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I imagine nobody will touch him until its a bit clearer when and what cricket he is going to be playing.
I wonder how the sponsorships work though in these situations. Will NB ask for their gear back? or can he just carry on using the stuff they have already given him until he gets a new sponsor?
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I think Stokes has limited options so perhaps is putting in a bulk order of blank goods from Online Stockist?!
Haha! He is an amazing cricketer but he does attract a lot of unwanted attention.
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NB being the England kit sponsor too, do they know something we don’t? Seems increasingly unlikely he’ll play any part in the ashes, do wonder if they are best putting it to bed and saying he misses the tour now rather than it be strung out any longer
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I imagine nobody will touch him until its a bit clearer when and what cricket he is going to be playing.
I wonder how the sponsorships work though in these situations. Will NB ask for their gear back? or can he just carry on using the stuff they have already given him until he gets a new sponsor?
Nah, why would they want all the sweaty gear back? ;)
(PS: Player gets to keep all the goodies).
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NB being the England kit sponsor too, do they know something we don’t? Seems increasingly unlikely he’ll play any part in the ashes, do wonder if they are best putting it to bed and saying he misses the tour now rather than it be strung out any longer
Yes it does seem increasingly unlikely, just waiting for a press release saying exactly that.The telegraph reported a week ago he is out of the tour while the investigation goes on, and Avon police won't rush it just because of who he is.He is going to miss the Ashes and could have a long ban from the ECB.
Team photos will be a bit too when he does comes back, everyone in NB kit and Stokes in.....well....all white blank?
Very much doubt any England photos would allow any other kit than the official sponsor surely?
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I’m sure this will just be his personal sponsorship deal with nb the England kit deal will be seperate otherwise players personal contracts would go against the NB’s kit deal especially those who use Adidas kit?
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Depends what's in his contract @Cover_Drive - I know of a few companies that only send free kit out on a loan basis so it remains the property of the brand for instances just like this (Pretty sure B&S do a similar thing but donate to charity at the end?).
Anyway lets face it, a company of NB's size really aren't going to care about a bit of kit lol
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Team photos will be a bit too when he does comes back, everyone in NB kit and Stokes in.....well....all white blank?
They may have to photoshop the brand in/out and they may have to photoshop Stokes in or out of the photo too!!
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Yes it does seem increasingly unlikely, just waiting for a press release saying exactly that.The telegraph reported a week ago he is out of the tour while the investigation goes on, and Avon police won't rush it just because of who he is.He is going to miss the Ashes and could have a long ban from the ECB.
There is evidently a group gathering next Tuesday in Loughborough which involves fielding practice, some bowling with Kook balls plus what to expect in Aus (hostile, quick bowling and lots of sledging would be my guess there!) But will be interesting to see if he is left out of that gathering or whether they say "see you next Tuesday" Stokesie! I think we all say that anyway!! ;)
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NB being the England kit sponsor too, do they know something we don’t? Seems increasingly unlikely he’ll play any part in the ashes, do wonder if they are best putting it to bed and saying he misses the tour now rather than it be strung out any longer
We are bad enough as it is without Stokes playing as well!
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Yes it does seem increasingly unlikely, just waiting for a press release saying exactly that.The telegraph reported a week ago he is out of the tour while the investigation goes on, and Avon police won't rush it just because of who he is.He is going to miss the Ashes and could have a long ban from the ECB.
Team photos will be a bit too when he does comes back, everyone in NB kit and Stokes in.....well....all white blank?
Very much doubt any England photos would allow any other kit than the official sponsor surely?
He'd still wear the NB england gear (if/when selected) just wont be using their batting gear and shoes?
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Who would pick him up? Spartan :)
Hitman? :D
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Hits it Harder?
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At least Hales has got his post-cricket coaching career sorted - clearly the master at hit-and-run!
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Can a player buy his own kit & use it with the brand visible? If yes he can take a revenge with NB by buying retail stock available (rather just use exisiting kit without getting paid) and using it in game :D.. Can do that atleast for a few weeks
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That old brand smasher works too.
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Stokes to sign for Hits Hard? :D
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Stokes to sign for Hits Hard? :D
Hopefully their softs stop him getting any further hand injuries
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I was going for companies with *allegedly* pretty loose ethics but if we are playing that game...
BAS (Beat All Suckers)? Boom Boom? Warrior?
Meanwhile Hales is set to join Duck and Run.
If that all falls through but they make it to Australia then no doubt Dingbat Sports will pick them up
Liquorland ?
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There is evidently a group gathering next Tuesday in Loughborough which involves fielding practice, some bowling with Kook balls plus what to expect in Aus (hostile, quick bowling and lots of sledging would be my guess there!) But will be interesting to see if he is left out of that gathering or whether they say "see you next Tuesday" Stokesie! I think we all say that anyway!! ;)
Does the sledging practice involve a video of Stokes with voice over?
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Stokes to sign for Hits Hard? :D
Is the brand still alive? I had bought a pair of HH gloves here on the forum...they had hits hard spelled out on the knuckles...something that was always a hit with the opposition. :D
Would 100% suit Stokes.
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Depends what's in his contract @Cover_Drive - I know of a few companies that only send free kit out on a loan basis so it remains the property of the brand for instances just like this (Pretty sure B&S do a similar thing but donate to charity at the end?).
Anyway lets face it, a company of NB's size really aren't going to care about a bit of kit lol
Wasn't so much then wanting the kit back but more how much do they want to be removed from Stokes. Do they want to go as far as not letting him be seen with any of their stuff rather than just we've stopped giving him freebies and wads of cash.
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Yeah exactly, I'm sure there will be a clause stating he's unable to represent the brand in any form for cases like this.
My bet would be on one of the Asia based brands picking him up. I would presume it'll make less of a difference to them compared to a UK based brand and they'll still have deep enough pockets to afford him.
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Wonder if any other brand would be willing to be associated with Stokes after the reasons given by NB for breaking ties.
What happened with Tiger Woods after Nike broke ties with him?
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Can a player buy his own kit & use it with the brand visible? If yes he can take a revenge with NB by buying retail stock available (rather just use exisiting kit without getting paid) and using it in game :D.. Can do that atleast for a few weeks
I wondered this, i suspect at the very least he'll end up buying himself some NB spikes. Wonder whether an Indian brand would go for him given his IPL reputation? Not sure if any Indian members can comment on how this whole thing has been received in India?
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http://www.golf-monthly.co.uk/gear/gear-news/tiger-woods-using-unbranded-irons-143601 (http://www.golf-monthly.co.uk/gear/gear-news/tiger-woods-using-unbranded-irons-143601)
Took the stickers off and carried on using them by the looks of it haha! The article says he was picked up by TaylorMade for his drivers, but he's still using his Nike irons without the Nike branding.
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I wondered this, i suspect at the very least he'll end up buying himself some NB spikes. Wonder whether an Indian brand would go for him given his IPL reputation? Not sure if any Indian members can comment on how this whole thing has been received in India?
TBH not much of an issue here in India ;). IMO he's been getting too harsh a punishment (on the field), let law take it's course and let him serve his sentence. If he did something on the field punish him accordingly. But I understand if a brand doesn't want guy with a particular image endorsing their products/company ethics/values.
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I also wonder how much of NB being ECB kit suppliers affected their decision? Have they binned him because he'll ruin their reputation or have they binned him because he'll ruin their partnership with ECB?
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Wonder if any other brand would be willing to be associated with Stokes after the reasons given by NB for breaking ties.
What happened with Tiger Woods after Nike broke ties with him?
He won't be without a Sponser long and guilty or not wont effect IPL etc.
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Kook don't have any England internationals so wouldn't bet against that. Just for kicks when I next speak with Kember I'll ask him if he is up for offering him a HH sponsorship lol
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Kook don't have any England internationals so wouldn't bet against that. Just for kicks when I next speak with Kember I'll ask him if he is up for offering him a HH sponsorship lol
I know they could afford him, but will they want to afford him? Must be a reason they haven't snapped any up recently?
Was trying to think of any other brands that use FCS as their maker, unless he gets his bats made closer to home
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Kook don't have any England internationals so wouldn't bet against that. Just for kicks when I next speak with Kember I'll ask him if he is up for offering him a HH sponsorship lol
I know they aren't going to the Ashes but Butler and TRJ are Kookaburra sponsored
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Just seen this and did not see that coming at all. I'd bet no one will touch him until they know what's happening. No sense paying a guy six figures if he's sitting on his backside on the back of a year's ban...
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Maybe gray nics will have him
They didn't drop warner after punching root
They didn't drop failkner after drink driving charhe
They haven't as of yet dropped Hales for apparently shoeing a man while he's down
And to be fair, grays reputation hasn't been dented either. People will buy the gear regardless if they want it
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Or maybe TON?
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Was trying to think of any other brands that use FCS as their maker, unless he gets his bats made closer to home
Adidas or Slazenger spring to mind
Maybe gray nics will have him
They didn't drop warner after punching root
They didn't drop failkner after drink driving charhe
They haven't as of yet dropped Hales for apparently shoeing a man while he's down
Stokes was with GN previously too (before he went to Puma)
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I bet his agent is negotiating with a few as we speak.
Such a box office player will not be without a sponsor for very long. The new contract will be kept quiet and have a clause like "if convicted or banned the contract is void" but be in no doubt he will have had plenty of calls.
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Noone will touch him til he's back playing I'd expect. When he is, brands will be queuing out the door! It'll all blow over sooner or later, the only question is how long that takes.
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He won't be without a Sponser long and guilty or not wont effect IPL etc.
Being found guilty and being in prison might scupper things a little bit
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Being found guilty and being in prison might scupper things a little bit
There is no way what so ever he will go to prison, even if found guilty.
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It's highly unlikely, but I wouldn't say no way.
Likelihood is it'll end up with a fine and tons of community service if it actually gets that far. Quite frankly community service will be of more use than any fine anyway, always a need for more cricket coaches! :D
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A lad I know got sent down for 18 months on the same charge as Stokes and it was his first offence too. If found guilty I think a few people will be surprised with the outcome.
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A lad I know got sent down for 18 months on the same charge as Stokes and it was his first offence too. If found guilty I think a few people will be surprised with the outcome.
Did the lad you know have the best lawyers/ legal representatives money can buy though?
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He's not likely to plead 'not guilty' though, is he? And, if he did, it would make chances of a custodial sentence more likely. There is only so much his defence can do in light of such apparently compelling evidence, I feel.
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A lad I know got sent down for 18 months on the same charge as Stokes and it was his first offence too. If found guilty I think a few people will be surprised with the outcome.
Have a look at the sentencing guidelines - 18 months is in the highest category of sentence for ABH, once you're in that category (greater harm and higher culpability) then you're not going to avoid prison. I'm no lawyer but from what is publicly known Stokes falls under lower culpability (provocation + excessive self defence) and possibly also lesser harm depending on how badly the bloke was injured, which would put him in either Cat 2 or 3. Cat 2 ranges from community order up to 51 weeks inside, Cat 3 from a small fine up to a community order. Highly unlikely Stokes goes away even if found guilty of ABH.
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The bloke got a fractured eye socket
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The bloke got a fractured eye socket
If stokes hasnt seriously hurt his hand because of that he's not human.
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The bloke got a fractured eye socket
Ouch. Revise the bit where I said 'highly unlikely'...
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The bloke got a fractured eye socket
Is there a source for this information?
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Is there a source for this information?
Mate of mine plays football with him.
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If Stokes had been a football supporter rather than a cricket player...
Just saying.
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If Stokes had been a football supporter rather than a cricket player...
Just saying.
Or even a football player
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Ben Stokes not to travel to Aus on the 28th of Oct at this stage.
Clearly as things stand the door as not be closed on Ben joining the tour at a later date.
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Reported NB statement:
New Balance does not condone behaviour that does not match our brand culture and values.
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https://twitter.com/kite_co_/status/918559664635371520 (https://twitter.com/kite_co_/status/918559664635371520) :D
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Police reappealing for witnesses
Whoever these blokes are need to come forward....if they exist
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Have the people involved come forward?
If witnesses or the ones involved don't come forward, then I assume the charges could be dropped?
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If no witnesses it comes down to stokes/Hales word be the guy(s) they were fighting. Sadly the video is unlikely to help stokes as its pretty hard evidence. Equally stokes defence will more than likely clai he cannot possibly have a fair trial due to the video being leaked into the public domain
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Exactly it going to try will help him because the jury will already have a view on it
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Police reappealing for witnesses
Whoever these blokes are need to come forward....if they exist
Sure they exist as the Police have given a description of both men they would like to talk to...
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They didn't both have moustaches, wear glasses and large rubber noses did they - because no-ones recognised them yet?
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They didn't both have moustaches, wear glasses and large rubber noses did they - because no-ones recognised them yet?
Not much better, 5’9 white males dark hair and wearing jeans trainers and t shirt, that could be anyone!
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Not much better, 5’9 white males dark hair and wearing jeans trainers and t shirt, that could be anyone!
Heard they have Australian accents and one heard calling the other Warny.. ;)
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Training with G Nics bat, can anyone identify the gloves?
https://twitter.com/skycricket/status/964781447910486021
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Training with G Nics bat, can anyone identify the gloves?
https://twitter.com/skycricket/status/964781447910486021
Don't think that's a recent photo, Stokes not back in training yet as he's only just landed
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Don't think that's a recent photo, Stokes not back in training yet as he's only just landed
It must be fairly recent as it's the new style GN stickers on what appears to be a nemesis.
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Training with G Nics bat, can anyone identify the gloves?
https://twitter.com/skycricket/status/964781447910486021
The Gloves are Phil Neales, Right Handed pair, he uses them for slip catching practice
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Don't think that's a recent photo, Stokes not back in training yet as he's only just landed
Was on sky sports news this morning that this was his first training session back with the England set up, can't read too much into this as could be anyone's bat maybe even helping Billings knock in a bat or two. Agree about gloves though when I watched it I thought they look decent
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Worcester`s finest,Fearnley
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He's still not got a sponsor, GN bat isn't his
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Would be interesting to see what sort of figure they're asking for now, can't imagine he's expecting a similar figure to the NB deal. Would presume any deal that does arise won't be until after the case is finalised anyway.
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I thought any publicity was good publicity? Everyone’s talking about him, surely people would crave the attention for their brand?
Don’t get me wrong I may be right off the mark, I have no marketing experience
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I very much doubt any Asian sponsors would be bothered what has gone on
He has an IPL deal this year I think so a large company there...
Could SS or SG see it as extending their sales outside of India maybe?
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Mrf