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General Cricket => Latest Matches => Topic started by: FattusCattus on January 24, 2018, 08:47:12 AM
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I see Sam Curran has just been called up to the squad. Undoubted talent and potential there I'm sure - but would we say he's the next cab off the rank?
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I see Sam Curran has just been called up to the squad. Undoubted talent and potential there I'm sure - but would we say he's the next cab off the rank?
Not yet, but I imagine they just want to give him a taste of international cricket.
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Good - I'm glad about that, be interesting to see how he goes.
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he plays for Slurry, ergo he skips quite a few places?
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Quite right - if he played for Yorkshire then Strauss would have murdered his pet rabbit instead!
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he plays for Slurry, ergo he skips quite a few places?
Does he? In terms of producing players for England it's only been in the last 18 months where it's been noticeable, and even then Stoneman is a Surrey product.
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Does he? In terms of producing players for England it's only been in the last 18 months where it's been noticeable, and even then Stoneman is a Surrey product.
You may mean isn't?
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It would appear that young Mr Dawson is enjoying himself in the T20 warm up match - good on him!
An opportunity for a few fringe players to stake a claim it would seem.
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It appears that Willey (opening the batting) is also having fun!
Just hit Lyons for 34 off 1 over!!!
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SIX, SIX, SIX, SIX, SIX.....
FOUR.
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and just as we were questioning if he had had a meaningful innings with the bat for England,
i know its not a t20i however this isnt an especially weak bowling attack for the pmxi
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73 off 32 balls - go on son!!!!
I'm pretty sure someone clever like me suggested he was better used up the order and a fill-in bowler.
#geniustictacs
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Only problem is, who out of Roy, Bairstow, Hales, Morgan, Root, Stokes, Buttler would you bat him ahead of?
Actually, put like that, the argument for Root missing T20 outside global comps to concentrate on other formats is quite compelling.
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Root didn't get picked in he IPL before agreeing a rest with England, I'm sure he wanted the chance to make money and no one can blame him, Morgan, butler,stokes have all played recently.
But I just cannot see root playing all 3 formats. In the standard one day team you could argue he is our best player,to pace a one day innings, but he's not really a big hitter.
Could be wrong but focus will soon be on the WC in 2019, and a packed test schedule next year.
England needed to handle Root carefully, he is a diamond.
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They do I think him playing T20 is pretty pointless.
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https://twitter.com/btsportcricket/status/959494217444872196
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Thankfully KW is still in. Stanlake bowling with some wheels!
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Funny how warner's method of relentless slogging isn't working since they reduced the dimensions of bats. Warner lacks skills and it was the bat that made him look decent.
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Funny how warner's method of relentless slogging isn't working since they reduced the dimensions of bats. Warner lacks skills and it was the bat that made him look decent.
Being a club cricketer and no confidence in his bats now
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Funny how warner's method of relentless slogging isn't working since they reduced the dimensions of bats. Warner lacks skills and it was the bat that made him look decent.
If you look at a lot of his dismissals this winter he’s been out prodding outside off not slogging, I’d say it was more him being more defensive rather than playing his natural attackingg game that has been his down fall
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This chap Stanlake certainly had his weetabix...the size of him
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Not a bad start eh
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Did Malan have to move out of the way to allow Agar to catch Hales.
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Malan looks like he's sorted the 'toppling over to a full ball' issue he had. Starting to look a very classy addition to the team and scoring at a fair lick with proper shots. That first 6 he flipped off his legs was dreamy
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Making agar look like a decent bowler here
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This is painful
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This is shambolic
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Oopsie - bit of a brain fade by Willey there - why not hang on a couple of balls?
140 total if we are lucky, and that probably won't be enough.
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England are throwing away a good start.
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Excellent work here boys! all our brainless lemmings are batting at the same time!
Good job we picked both spinners..........oh!
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Billings obviously has ability, but has he ever done anything in an England shirt?
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Currant will save us - he's gonna be a hero!
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Now England have to ensure they bat the overs.
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Billing’s is pure useless and shouldn’t be near the side
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Goodbye Davey
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THE BIG WILLEY IS SWINGING HARD
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Pitched and moved Jaffa to Chris Lynn
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Willey's getting right up the Aussies!
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What a jaffer
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Billing’s is pure useless and shouldn’t be near the side
Been around a while needs a score
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Been around a while needs a score
3 50's in around 30 white ball games.
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This is crap
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Who was it in the other thread saying Hales is as good a fielder as YJB?
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Ah, sending stuff upstairs
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Soft signal for those is a nonsense, but after that was out not too sure how they can overturn it.
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Game changer that third umpire maxwell decison
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Setting aside the couple of moments of fortune that Maxwell received, for someone who's deemed too thick and stupid by his captain(Smith), he's not that bad...
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Maxwell what a performance! Got his match fees worth!
Serious match winner that got dropped for his comments about wade
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Yeah but we're missing the highlight:
Willey got Head!!
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Maxwell is one of those KP like figures, you just want some better man management...
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Just watching the highlights now and once again Alex Hales is showing is how amazing he is at catching dollies......
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England going absolutely no where right now...billings and buttler need to go some
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And for anyone wondering what happened to Liam Dawson, he is playing.
Billings for me is an unorthodox player who takes it on. I still think he could play a part coming up to the WC but does not get many opportunities
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And for anyone wondering what happened to Liam Dawson, he is playing.
Billings for me is an unorthodox player who takes it on. I still think he could play a part coming up to the WC but does not get many opportunities
could do with raking it on a bit here, 16 from 18 and that includes a 6!
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He pushed it on a bit, some great shots and you can't set a field for a verse pull shot...I must start practising that in the nets :)
We don't have enough runs here thou I don't think.
Need a Wiley special now!
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England 137 below par but on a difficult batting pitch could be close.
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You see India's wrist spinners bowl and they look sensational. Yet you watch Rashid and he looks rubbish. And Rashid has 500 fc wickets
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You see India's wrist spinners bowl and they look sensational. Yet you watch Rashid and he looks rubbish. And Rashid has 500 fc wickets
Slight contradiction there then, 500 fc wickets but he's rubbish yeh?
Give your head a shake
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Rashid shows no heart. Bowls darts soon as he's collared to the boundary.
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Rashid shows no heart. Bowls darts soon as he's collared to the boundary.
So you’d rather he continues to throw it up and get carted?
Get a grip mate!
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Don't see the likes of Chahal or Kuldeep being so mentally weak when batsmen attack them
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Don't see the likes of Chahal or Kuldeep being so mentally weak when batsmen attack them
The definition of insanity is doing the same thing and expecting a different result!
Chahal and kuldeep haven’t been carted yet, when they do they will change!
Are you seriously saying that any spinner will keep tossing it up when being smashed?
Mate you need to seriously open you’re eyes pal!
I assume you’re not a bowler? If you were you’d know that you have to change it up when being hit!
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Rashid gets wickets with pies, hardly see him beating players with spin and flight. He takes wickets so can’t really knock him though
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Don't see the likes of Chahal or Kuldeep being so mentally weak when batsmen attack them
So which one are you? Chahal or Kuldeep?
Your clearly Indian, now take your blinkers off
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Don't see the likes of Chahal or Kuldeep being so mentally weak when batsmen attack them
Worked a treat for Chahal today,
5.3 overs for 68!
Rashid would have gone for sub-65, no worries....
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Interesting pitch for England vs no
(See ian wards twitter for pic)
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(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DVz6aslUMAAFmEk.jpg)
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what happened there? issues when they bedded the drop in?
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Pitch looks really strange and will be interesting to see how it plays.
PS. sooooooooo glad we are back on Sky with Bumble etc... commentating
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I watch so much cricket I got bored of the Sky group and I may even of posted that as well
How wrong I was!
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Ohhh my Chris Jordan!
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More of that needed everything else is going for 6!
Rashid could end up with respectable figures after 20 here :)
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Some nice long levers from Halesy
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Oh look, another appalling collapse. This team doesn't half look ordinary when you take out the most complete batsman, the best allrounder in the world and a really good captain.
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TBF, the captain's injured and 'the best allrounder in the world' only has himself to blame.
England have to learn to win games without a couple of key players. A few people need to step up to the mark - Buttler as captain for one.
Malan once again proving how valuable he is becoming.
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When are England going to realise that sending Jordan up the order is a lousy plan at international level? Waste of 5 balls every time, ow he bats ahead of Rashid and particularly Plunkett in these situations is beyond me.
Edit: sorry Liam.
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England are missing their three best players - Root, Bairstow and Stokes - and a captain who is excellent in the format. Its not the end of the world.
Malan good again though...
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England are missing their three best players - Root, Bairstow and Stokes - and a captain who is excellent in the format. Its not the end of the world.
Yaaawkshire, yaaawkshire sorry, you mean Bairstow who's played 4 T20Is since 2013?? I'd suggest Moeen is more of a miss, feel we're a batsman light this series, especially with the top order mostly not firing.
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Yaaawkshire, yaaawkshire sorry, you mean Bairstow who's played 4 T20Is since 2013?? I'd suggest Moeen is more of a miss, feel we're a batsman light this series, especially with the top order mostly not firing.
Actually, it would be fair to say five rather than four. But overall, I stand by my comment that Bairsotw is one of England's best players, regardless of format.
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Yaaawkshire, yaaawkshire sorry, you mean Bairstow who's played 4 T20Is since 2013?? I'd suggest Moeen is more of a miss, feel we're a batsman light this series, especially with the top order mostly not firing.
When Bairstow does where an England shirt he rarely lets the side down
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...and 'the best allrounder in the world' only has himself to blame.
I see he (and the other defendents) have pleaded not guilty to Affray
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And he's on his way to NZ now.
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Yaaawkshire, yaaawkshire sorry, you mean Bairstow who's played 4 T20Is since 2013?? I'd suggest Moeen is more of a miss, feel we're a batsman light this series, especially with the top order mostly not firing.
Just because he isn't getting picked, doesn't mean he is not one of the best.
He played 3 games in 2017, averaging 67 and a strike rate of around 144. His "lowest" score was 27.
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Just because he isn't getting picked, doesn't mean he is not one of the best.
He played 3 games in 2017, averaging 67 and a strike rate of around 144. His "lowest" score was 27.
Now now, you wouldn't want to be accused of Northern parochialism! :)
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Where does Bairstow fit in England's best t20 side (other than about 17th choice)? Also that isn't really what I was getting at - daft to say anyone is 'missing' from a side they don't usually play in. You think Sheffield Collegiate get in the bar after a loss and go 'never mind boys, we'd have done much better if we weren't missing Vaughan and the Root lads'?
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Where does Bairstow fit in England's best t20 side (other than about 17th choice)? Also that isn't really what I was getting at - daft to say anyone is 'missing' from a side they don't usually play in. You think Sheffield Collegiate get in the bar after a loss and go 'never mind boys, we'd have done much better if we weren't missing Vaughan and the Root lads'?
I'm sure they would have done better because they would have had better players in, the only reason was that they area better team. question: How many times do you hear of supporters saying that their best players are taken for England and that is affecting the county's results. Answer: all the time
Bairstow could fit anywhere in the top 7, easily.
It's not his fault that the selectors don't pick him, but you can still say that they'd do better with him. He'll be picked in the team as soon as Morgan steps down as captain.
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Where does Bairstow fit in England's best t20 side (other than about 17th choice)? Also that isn't really what I was getting at - daft to say anyone is 'missing' from a side they don't usually play in. You think Sheffield Collegiate get in the bar after a loss and go 'never mind boys, we'd have done much better if we weren't missing Vaughan and the Root lads'?
Debateable - there is a valid argument that he would have to unseat one of Root or Buttler, though I think the same argument that saw him pass Hales in the one day side could apply.
Complication is, I like how Malan bats in t'hit n giggle...
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Wow some serious hitting. 230+ on the cards
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Kiwi's throwing this away
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91/0 after six. Haha.
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Aus are going to chase this down
Pitch looks a bit..........flat
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Should do it with an over to spare. Ridiculous.
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That’s some chase by the Aussies :(
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Some nice hitting.
Moaners will Claim “flat track” and “small boundaries”. But I’d like to see them maintain it for the full 20 overs of a chase.
Not that simple when pressures on.
Anyway. I like this D’Arcy short guy. Got something about him. The next david Warner?? Or even better?
How long until a big sponsor snaps him up?
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If we are playing at the same ground as the Aussies did all bets off how many we could concede.
250 within reach !
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I hope someone got Ben Wheeler a pint or two. Poor chap got the beating of his life 3.1 overs 64 runs...
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I guess now that the "big bats" scapegoat is discredited, Ponting and co will push for maximum muscle sizes?
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50m boundary’s??
Batting paradise
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The simple fact is if you have 50m boundaries and a motorway of a pitch where the ball doesn't move off the straight , this is going to happen.
Wheeler was actually a tad unlucky, his 1st over against Short went 18 and not one was a bad ball and Short didn't middle one of them, including a genuine outside edge that went for 6 into the stands!
I do think it was a tad silly though.... by this I mean Short must have had 40ish before he actually middled one.
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The issue with multi sport stadiums - no way around it.
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I don’t see an issue.... The game is about hitting boundaries and hitting as many as possible.... And both teams have to play on the same wicket/same ground
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I don’t see an issue.... The game is about hitting boundaries and hitting as many as possible.... And both teams have to play on the same wicket/same ground
As No:4 says.. this format is about smashing runs each ball.. it’s what everyone wants
If you want balance between bat and ball don’t watch 2020
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Hales can't bat for crap!
Malan looks good.
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Malan has done well since he came in, would like to see Morgan get a significant score- he has not done a great deal in the last 12 months
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Another crowd catch!
Malan is great
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Must suck to get out like that...what was Butler thinking!
Was that a good ball or a really bad shot from Butler?
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Love Eoin Morgan’s SF - wonky stickers, tatty, grip riding up & easy to buy off eBay for under £40
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Probably not an "SF" just stickers.
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195 clearly nowhere near enough. Serious hitting from Munro
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Think i’ve seen enough now to be sure that Billings is bobbins at this level. Number 6 isn’t an easy slot in T20 but he’s hardly shown anything in plenty of chances here.
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Pretty poor effort from guptill so far.
He’s got England back in this game by batting at less than a run a ball
Credit to Dawson
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What does Chris Jordan offer with the ball?
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What does Chris Jordan offer with the ball?
No balls and wides?
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Pretty poor effort from guptill so far.
He’s got England back in this game by batting at less than a run a ball
Credit to Dawson
Rubbish
He played for the 174 and saw his team home. NZ didn’t really bother chasing the game until the 174 was secured. Guptil played it well, just stay in and bat the majority of the overs and 174 on these grounds will happen. See off the only threat in spin and boom.
NZ schooled England
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England win a t20! More down to Giorgio watching the 175 score rather than the 195. But a win is a win.
Best side?
Presume stokes comes in for billings at some point.
How do we get whales and root back in??
Root to open for hales? Seeing as he’s well out of form......
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What does Chris Jordan offer with the ball?
140kph and our only bowler capable of actually bowling yorkas ? Tbf he’s not bad at the white ball format.
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Best side?
Presume stokes comes in for billings at some point.
How do we get whales and root back in??
Root to open for hales? Seeing as he’s well out of form......
Tricky isn't it? Six bowlers is much easier on the captain than five, so you are picking six from Roy, Hales, YJB, Root, Malan, Morgan, Stokes and Buttler (Billings may be done). If we're managing workload, I'd leave out the two tykes, if we're picking best XI it's tough.
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I am not particularly worried about this T20i Tri-series for a few reasons....
1. NZ are always a very good white ball side
2. Australia are a completely different side at this time of year when they can call on players that have been playing on BBL for 6/8 weeks solid.
3. The majority of our best players aren't playing!
The side that played the 2016 World T20 final is below -
Roy, Hales, Root, Morgan, Butler, Stokes, Ali, Jordan, Willey, Plunkett, Rashid.
So not playing in this series are Root, Ali and Stokes. You could add to that now Woakes and possibly Bairstow. Plus we have found that Malan is a very good T20i player.
So not all bad.
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Rubbish
He played for the 174 and saw his team home. NZ didn’t really bother chasing the game until the 174 was secured. Guptil played it well, just stay in and bat the majority of the overs and 174 on these grounds will happen. See off the only threat in spin and boom.
NZ schooled England
Sorry how is that rubbish. Munro broke the back of the chase in the first 6 overs. They required 8rpo thereafter -6.5rpo for the 175 target.
The next 6-7 overs saw the rate jump to 12s. They had plenty of firepower down the order to cruise to the 175 target
“NZ didn’t really bother chasing the game until the 174 was secured“ - think the first 6 overs disagree with your point here
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Sorry how is that rubbish. Munro broke the back of the chase in the first 6 overs. They required 8rpo thereafter -6.5rpo for the 175 target.
The next 6-7 overs saw the rate jump to 12s. They had plenty of firepower down the order to cruise to the 175 target
“NZ didn’t really bother chasing the game until the 174 was secured“ - think the first 6 overs disagree with your point here
Go watch it again.. watch guptils approach and then how they as a team go about playing Rashid and Dawson. Munro only has one way. Then come back and suggest that their plan was to simply ensure they got 174.
If you disageee then we shall agree to disagree.
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Hard luck for England. Some of the batsmen gave away wickets cheaply. New Zealand bowlers showed a lot of class to reign in England scoring rate in some overs. NZ played smart cricket.
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Why did New Zealand choose to bat??
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Was that a BDM The Game sticker underneath Sodhi’s NB Stickers?
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Chris Lynn dislocated his right shoulder, his good shoulder. Should he need yet more surgery he will forgo his $1.4m IPL windfall. Could open the door for Guptill or Hales
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Chris Lynn dislocated his right shoulder, his good shoulder. Should he need yet more surgery he will forgo his $1.4m IPL windfall. Could open the door for Guptill or Hales
Oh no, not again!!! He is a joy to watch.
I got his pre-shoulder dislocation bat and it is a trampoline!
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Hasn’t learnt his lesson in the field has he. He should follow Gayle’s example in the field