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General Cricket => Latest Matches => Topic started by: SouthpawMark on July 06, 2021, 09:14:18 AM
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Excellent chance to try some new players, given the entire current squad needs to self-isolate!
Who wants a game for England on Thursday? Keen to see Crawley and AJ bat together.
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Is this how Alex Hales gets his recall? Ah.
From a Surrey perspective I'll be happy if Jacks gets called up, but this is a disaster for the counties with the current round of Championship games and subsequent domestic fixtures...
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Sam Hain will finally get to play for England!!!
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The way things are going, wonder if there will be a completely new team for the second match in the series too?
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Monty suggesting on Twitter we pick some science geek called Alex Hale, a bloke called Chris Parkinson and SA born New Zealand international Glenn Phillips.
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Is it a whole new squad I wonder, we do have a large set up but 11 new players will be a challenge.
I guess they cannot pick anyone currently in a CC game-or can they just pull them out?
Difficult times but not totally unexpected
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Stevo??
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Is it a whole new squad I wonder, we do have a large set up but 11 new players will be a challenge.
I guess they cannot pick anyone currently in a CC game-or can they just pull them out?
Difficult times but not totally unexpected
Can pull them out. So will be interesting to see who doesn’t take the field today.
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Stokes, Hain, Duckett, Vince, Mahmood, Parkinson all surely nailed on.
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It’s a completely brand new squad, players can and will get pulled out of CC games, Stokes has already left the Durham squad. Issues for Durham who are already down to the bare bones because of isolation and the 2s are at Beckenham. If another player (Carse probably) gets called up they’ll be snookered
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Stokes, Hain, Duckett, Vince, Mahmood, Parkinson all surely nailed on.
Anderson? And I’m not totally joking :)
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Anderson? And I’m not totally joking :)
They aren't picking him at his age ahead of a test series
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Sam Hain will finally get to play for England!!!
Apparently not.
Staggered I didn't get a call to be honest.
Also no Stevo or Hales.
This is the end for Hales.
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Stokes and carse have been removed from the Durham squad, wonder who the other additions will be
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Apparently not.
Staggered I didn't get a call to be honest.
Also no Stevo or Hales.
This is the end for Hales.
Genuinely shocked by this. He averages 59.79 from 56 One day innings
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I kinda think Hales despite appearing a muppet does deserve another chance, he’s made mistakes same as a few others.
If he can’t get in now he’s never going to agree with that.
I wonder if his relationship with Stokes cooled right off after Bristol
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What issues does the board have with Alex Hales?? A talented player is just being wasted. Shame!
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I would say the main person with issues is Morgan. His call and nobody else's from what I can tell
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Cannot believe Hain didn't make it, and it's ridiculous that Hales didn't either.
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ECB love to hold grudges! Vince lucky to get another chance,looking forward to some pretty 20's from him.
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ECB are clueless. Perfect opportunity to pick Hales. Also, if they hadn’t dragged Banton away from Somerset in order to carry drinks they would have had an in-form opener.
Giles, Silverwood and co are so far out of their depth, and Morgan doesn’t help by being so stubborn.
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ECB are clueless. Perfect opportunity to pick Hales. Also, if they hadn’t dragged Banton away from Somerset in order to carry drinks they would have had an in-form opener.
Giles, Silverwood and co are so far out of their depth, and Morgan doesn’t help by being so stubborn.
It's a full circle of the KP situation. Trust and team culture has been broken. But that cannot be forever, if they won't meet with him how can he apologise and get another chance? Hales done himself in, and has not been in court despite sailing close to the line.
There are others who have done worse is what I'm trying to say.
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Sam Hain must have sh*gged someone's mum! how does he not get a call up, suits the Bears with the derby coming up but still.....
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How is Tom Helm in there, jeez bang average.
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, if they hadn’t dragged Banton away from Somerset in order to carry drinks they would have had an in-form opener.
You mean he should have been a reserve, but not actually a reserve?
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You mean he should have been a reserve, but not actually a reserve?
He should have been either selected outright or left in county cricket. Mucking him about as the fill in for Roy has meant he missed this opportunity.
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As the fill-in for Roy.
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So on the call ups it is worth mentioning that the ECB have tried to be even handed on the counties and not take too many from one.
If you look at the likely top order, a combo of
Jacks
Duckett
Vince
Malan
Stokes
Plus Crawley and Lawrence, who have international experience and are known to the management, to bring in Hain to sit on the bench (his isn't going to take Malan's role) isn't worth it.
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I'd have pushed Malan up a spot and Hain at 4 but can see the sense in that line up. Just a disappointing squad IMO.
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We are not going to get a great squad under the circumstances, Banton is one that has been really unlucky he's got promise, but I don't see how the situation could be avoided,he had to be in the squad as cover for Roy.
Hain I know little about but agree with @Jimbo, if there's a chance he could play at 4 which I think you are saying(Malan up) then what do the selectors find out about Vince they don't already know.
I like Vince a lot but not making an argument he should be picked again.
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So on the call ups it is worth mentioning that the ECB have tried to be even handed on the counties and not take too many from one.
If you look at the likely top order, a combo of
Jacks
Duckett
Vince
Malan
Stokes
Plus Crawley and Lawrence, who have international experience and are known to the management, to bring in Hain to sit on the bench (his isn't going to take Malan's role) isn't worth it.
I was amazed that there were no Yorkies in there - I was sure they'd have pinched Brook just because we needed him! It is interesting though as a lot of up and coming and fringe players now have an idea of where they stand in the ECB thinking. Hain will be gutted, as I suspect will Will Rhodes, Jamie Overton, Samit Patel and Keaton Jennings.
Not sure what the eventual side will look like but I expect that Salt will start the series, so its just a question of whether he or Duckett get the gloves (because surely Simpson is there as a pure reserve?)
For me, I think we might see:
Salt
Jacks
Crawley
Malan
Stokes
Lawrence
Duckett (w)
Overton
Gregory/Carse
Mahmood
Parkinson
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As a Worcester fan I can't believe Ben Cox hasn't been called up. The next best keeper to Foakes and excellent one day batsman. Hain is very unlucky and I think Tom Abel would have been worth a go. Hales international career is over!
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As a Worcester fan I can't believe Ben Cox hasn't been called up. The next best keeper to Foakes and excellent one day batsman. Hain is very unlucky and I think Tom Abel would have been worth a go. Hales international career is over!
As a Bear myself, I'm surprised Cox has never been given a go. top player!
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One thing I have noticed is the stark difference when England picks a squad for limited overs cricket in comparison to test cricket. England is spoilt for choice when it comes to limited overs but there is hardly a fight over who should be picked in the test squad. But then, I guess this is the case with most countries today. Really wonder where Test cricket will be in 10-15 years time.
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Spoilt for choice in certain areas anyway. How many proven top quality leg spinners are fighting for Rashid's spot in the white ball side?
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One thing I have noticed is the stark difference when England picks a squad for limited overs cricket in comparison to test cricket. England is spoilt for choice when it comes to limited overs but there is hardly a fight over who should be picked in the test squad. But then, I guess this is the case with most countries today. Really wonder where Test cricket will be in 10-15 years time.
With the hundred coming as well as,not instead of,one of the other short forms it's def a worry for those of us that prefer tests to the other formats.
A simple test would be, let's say Joe Root was the last world class batsman at around 25 years old.
Who would be the next potentially at around the same age and English qualified?
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OK I am going to play lucky dip on this team...
Duckett (wk)
Vince
Malan
Lawrence
Stokes
Jacks
Overton
Carse
Mahmood
Parkinson
Payne
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I just want Jacks and Salt to open, absolute violence
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Predictions for today? I think England will dominate.
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New talent is always so exciting! Really looking forward to see how these new faces perform against Pak! With the original squad, I would have predicted an england whitewash, but the turn of events has made things very interesting.
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I'd be very surprised if a brand new team would do well under the circumstances.
I suppose if you think about the next 50 over World Cup then it's at least a chance for some new players to be tried out.
Not sure what they will find out about Vince but Malan and Lawrence on the batting front have an opportunity.
From the very little I've seen of Jacks he's explosive but bowlers won't feed him stuff he can put into the leg side.
Let's see thou.
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Nearly time for the team! Hardest to predict for a while...
I reckon it'll be (not what I would pick)
Vince
Crawley
Malan
Salt
Stokes
Jacks
Duckett +
Overton
Carse
Mahmood
Parkinson
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I'm just sad Jacks isn't opening
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Salt is in presume him and Malan are the openers, or Salt and Vince…
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I’m just sad Hales isn’t opening.
Anyway, looks a decent XI, all things considered. Looking forward to seeing Parky bowl.
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What a start!
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Great review from Sir Ben Stokes! 0-1 off 0.1
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Woooooooo! 0-2!
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Liking the look of Mahmood 2.0
I didn’t rate him first time around, but he looks much improved now. Him and Archer could be a tasty opening combo.
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SEED
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That was pretty dire from Pakistan.
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Good from us thou Mahmood was impressive.
Unfortunately Salt has gone early so we cannot say he is peppering the boundary.
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Crawley & Malan looking good.
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Yeah really pleased Crawley has got runs, not sure he will play in the test series but England will back him to come good.
Malan I’ve thought for a while unlucky not to be in all 3 formats.
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Low total chase, sure, but I'm pleased to see that we have an abundance of depth.
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Crawley must wish he can play Pakistan every week.
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Crawley must wish he can play Pakistan every week.
Hahaha,
They all wish they face them every day of the week!
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That was impressive from England...hoping for a typical comeback from Pak in the next match! Being a Pak cricket fan must surely be listed as one of the most riskiest things to do! Not for the weak hearted! :D
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Well, err this is rubbish
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Brilliant Yorker from Shaheen though
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Really good from Salt, he’s been peppering the boundary.
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Pretty embarrassing getting skittled by a dibbly dobber like Hassan Ali. He’s no more than buffet bowling.
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Brilliant batting from Gregory and Carse, feel like anything around 250 and you're in the game
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With the conditions I think we will have enough at just under 250. mahmood and carse have been impressive, plus Gregory.
Overton looks exactly the same as last time to me, can’t see any big improvement.
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SACKY!
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And another beautiful delivery
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I think having to pick a new squad has been great. Hopefully England will now have more faith in some other players. Just how Tom Curran gets in ahead of Mahmood is laughable.
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Wasn't Mahmood injured when the original squad was announced?
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He's improved on the last time he played on the 2 games seen. 1-11 need to be able to bat but with Archer and Stone out injured, Broad and Anderson probably not playing together there may be other chances coming up.
England I think will make a few changes for the last game, maybe Jacks and Duckett.
On another note Simpson the journeyman keeper was excellent yesterday and even if he does not play again has some great memories of Lords.
Fantastic.
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Agree, was nice to see Simpson making the most of his chance and brilliant for him to have such good memories of his England caps.
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Can you be a journeyman if you play a dozen years for the same club?
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Same team again. Already bored of this 'there's points at stake' narrative that stops giving players an opportunity
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difficult balance isn't it - they have done well, and the lads being left out might reasonably argue they also want the opportunity, but there wouldn't have been any harm in making two, maybe even three changes just to see someone else.
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This Brydon Carse looks like someone whom could force his way into the full time odi side.
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Yes, as a sort of deconstructed Plunkett.
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Pakistan get 331. Azam finds a pitch flat enough to get a dead rubber 158. Carse 5-61 & Mahmood 3-60
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The rush to undermine achievement is baffling at times.
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Surprised England didn't make a couple of changes but Mahmood and Carse have done themselves no harm for the future whether it's one day or tests.
Batting is a bit more tricky, the way we play suits Salt by the looks of it and Vince. It's a tough chase now thanks to a sublime knock by Azam.
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This Brydon Carse looks like someone whom could force his way into the full time odi side.
Seen him talked about as the Plunkett replacement and I can see why after today. Handy with the bat by all accounts too.
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Malan gone already. Perfect opportunity to try Jacks, blown away
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Malan didn't hit it, but walked anyway.
The rumours him being a selfish anti team man now destroyed. Review remains in tact for someone else.
:)
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Quite like the look of Salt, if it's in his half he's smashes it.
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Think this fielding performance sums up Pakistan perfectly
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Fantastic from Vince and Gregory
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Pakistan’s pop gun bowlers look decent when they stat pad against Bangladesh, Zimbabwe and Sri Lanka. Face England and you get found out.
Marvellous innings by Vince.
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The rush to undermine achievement is baffling at times.
Seems like I was pretty much spot on.
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Pakistan’s pop gun bowlers look decent when they stat pad against Bangladesh, Zimbabwe and Sri Lanka. Face England and you get found out.
Marvellous innings by Vince.
You said it yourself. Flat pitch. So flat pitch, dead rubber, and pop gun bowling - not too marvellous an innings then? At least be consistent in your logic - why is Babars innings shrugged off, but not Vince’s?
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Pakistan’s pop gun bowlers look decent when they stat pad against Bangladesh, Zimbabwe and Sri Lanka. Face England and you get found out.
Marvellous innings by Vince.
Wonder what your comment would be if England lost this series. Flat track or not, appreciate both Babar's & Vince's innings.
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WOW! What a team.
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Never saw a clean sweep with a put together team at the last minute
Pretty impressive from us, Carse slowed the down at the end of their innings which maybe made 330 not 350 plus
What to say about Vince, def the most frustrating player in modern times,but he's always had the talent.
There does not appear to be any room in the 50 over team but you never know I suppose. Gregory was superb as well
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Would it not be deliciously ironic if Vince finally "cracked it" then there was never space again?
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Carse, Gregory,Vince and Mahmood all have put themselves forward. Mahmood is a non batter so maybe he may stand a better chance in the Test side.
I dunno, unless there is rotation of players again, they may have to wait for an injury to play. Most of the one day team probably will be young nough to play in 2023 or whenever the next WC is.
I think they have made themselves first reserves thou.
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Tremendous bench strength from England - some of the first choice players might struggle to get back in !
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See they've left out Woakes for the t20 series. Understandable, he's obviously in need of a rest with the huge volumes of cricket he's been playing lately...
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See they've left out Woakes for the t20 series. Understandable, he's obviously in need of a rest with the huge volumes of cricket he's been playing lately...
I read somewhere he, S. Curran and Woody have all tested positive for Covid
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Gregory 2.0 has been very impressive. A proper all rounder. I remember his name being mentioned as someone with genuine pace in international T20 leagues. He seems to have lost the pace now but proving to be very effective both with bat and ball. He could surely give Sam Curran a run for his money in this Eng squad.
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Gregory 2.0 has been very impressive. A proper all rounder. I remember his name being mentioned as someone with genuine pace in international T20 leagues. He seems to have lost the pace now but proving to be very effective both with bat and ball. He could surely give Sam Curran a run for his money in this Eng squad.
SCurran has the left arm angle that they like though. Could see Gregory displacing his brother.
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There aren't a lot of spaces in our first choice white ball squads. Probably 13 in each format are nailed on when everyone is fit - and yes, Tom Curran is the guy who currently has most to lose.
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Players being rested,injured, maybe the only hope of the 'A' side we just put out getting a game. Even thou England say rotation is over I think we will do it myself.
Parkinson and Mahmood are in today's T20 game, Rashid rested.Theres no Buttler perhaps he is not fully fit.
The other new guy getting another chance is Livingstone, he's another who has had to wait for a decent chance.
He bowls a bit as well and might be an outside shot for the main team.
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How has T Curran managed to hold onto his spot in this team? What does ECB see in him really??
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How has T Curran managed to hold onto his spot in this team? What does ECB see in him really??
Not sure. I think S Curran is by far the better player for all 3 formats.
If you’re looking a like for like allrounders Gregory and Carse have been impressive.
Not sure Carse would be classed as an all rounder but he can bat and is far quicker bowling.
Gregory would probably be like for like
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Yeah, I would have Carse down more as a bowler who can bat a bit than a genuine all-rounder.
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Well Livingstone is doing himself some good, he can certainly clear the ropes :)
Nice to see the Adidas bat being used, Ian Bell style(one of many sponsors!)
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Why Bairstow didn't open is beyond me
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Well Livingstone is doing himself some good, he can certainly clear the ropes :)
Nice to see the Adidas bat being used, Ian Bell style(one of many sponsors!)
Hopefully they don’t look too closely…
https://twitter.com/englandcricket/status/1416144032816898057?s=21
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Hopefully they don’t look too closely…
https://twitter.com/englandcricket/status/1416144032816898057?s=21
Ha, excellent :D
Funnily enough, as I was watching I was wondering where his bat actually came from!
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On closer look it does look like a bad eBay job :)
Maybe....when we see 'pro bat used by xxxx' we should in fact not be looking for perfect grains, immaculate stickers and a sharpie toe but a bat when the stickers have been stencilled over, scrubbed out writing and wonky sanding job when the old ones can still be seen.
We live and learn on his forum!
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So what bat is it really? TK?
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So what bat is it really? TK?
If you zoom in on the toe of the bat you'll see what looks suspiciously like a TON sticker ;)
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If you zoom in on the toe of the bat you'll see what looks suspiciously like a TON sticker ;)
Ah missed that, that is one shoddy job covering up with adidas stickers
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Can’t be that shoddy if you missed it 😉
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Curran you absolute bellend
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Not really, there was an easy run if livingstone had gone when the run was called. Livingstone was too busy trying to see where the ball had gone, he should have trusted his partner.
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Can’t be that shoddy if you missed it 😉
lol true, that's why they can get away with that
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Has Livingstone played himself into a team with no spaces in it?
With the games being in UAE you would think we need all the power going and high scoring flat wickets.
I think myself because he can bowl some spin he’s got a very good chance to get in
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He may well have.
We have 8 nailed on: Roy, Buttler, Bairstow, Stokes, Morgan, Archer, Sam Curran and Rashid. To that you need to add a batsman, a bowler and the luxury player that Stokes allows you. I reckon Livingstone will get either the first or third role.
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He may well have.
We have 8 nailed on: Roy, Buttler, Bairstow, Stokes, Morgan, Archer, Sam Curran and Rashid. To that you need to add a batsman, a bowler and the luxury player that Stokes allows you. I reckon Livingstone will get either the first or third role.
MO, LL, Jordan, TCuz, Willey, Malan, Mahmood and Woakes for the final 3 spots I guess
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MO, LL, Jordan, TCuz, Willey, Malan, Mahmood and Woakes for the final 3 spots I guess
Agree with the 8, I think Moeen will be in we like the twin spin option, Jordan as well I reckon.
Tough call to get our best players when we could essentially pick two teams in this format as well.
may be LL or Malan. As much has Bairstow has tailed off in tests he is outstanding in limited overs.
Roy and Bairstow 1 and 2 is hard to argue against.
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Agree with the 8, I think Moeen will be in we like the twin spin option, Jordan as well I reckon.
Tough call to get our best players when we could essentially pick two teams in this format as well.
may be LL or Malan. As much has Bairstow has tailed off in tests he is outstanding in limited overs.
Roy and Bairstow 1 and 2 is hard to argue against.
In T20 I'd be more tempted by Roy and Buttler up top. Bairstow 3, plus Stokes, Morgan, LL is some top 6.
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Agree with the 8, I think Moeen will be in we like the twin spin option, Jordan as well I reckon.
Tough call to get our best players when we could essentially pick two teams in this format as well.
may be LL or Malan. As much has Bairstow has tailed off in tests he is outstanding in limited overs.
Roy and Bairstow 1 and 2 is hard to argue against.
Mo will definitely be in, it's in the UAE and we have no subcontinent teams in our group (unless Bangladesh qualify into it).
I also think the other seamer will be Jordan, he is the more experienced go to death bowler.
I would pick Livingstone definitely, he has the power hitting that allows us to create a real fear in the opposition and his bowling gives an extra option. He is also a gun fielder.
Does anybody know how many will be in the squad?
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Anyone not picking Malan is daft
He's more than proven he can perform at this level, his record is outstanding
Roy
JB
Malan
Livingston
Buttler
Morgan
Stokes
Archer
Rashid
Mahmood
Parkinson
Bowling options:
Rashid
Mahmood
Parkinson
Livingston
Archer
Stokes
And plenty of powerful batting
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Malan's record against pace bowling is exceptional, no argument. But isn't his record against spin in white ball internationals pretty weak? Seems like a pretty glaring flaw for a tournament that's going to be played in the UAE.
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Malan's record is undoubtely exceptional, but he is not a great slow pitch player and has never really excelled against spin, and there is an argument that the risk of him getting out before his rate starts to catch up outweighs the benefits of him being able to go deep. In normal circumstances, I would say yeah, sure, you need someone in that Amla/Williamson role but when we have the depth of batting options that we have, it may be that he ends focussing on the longer formats.
I tried to put my squad together. I went for:
Jason Roy
Jos Buttler
Jonny Bairstow
Ben Stokes
Liam Livingstone
Eoin Morgan
Joe Root
Sam Curran
Chris Jordan
Adil Rashid
Jofra Archer
Dawid Malan
Saqib Mahmood
Moeen Ali
Matt Parkinson
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Not a huge amount of love for Chris Woakes in these stabs at squads...
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Not a huge amount of love for Chris Woakes in these stabs at squads...
True - if it were elsewhere I think there would be, but, like David Willey, I suspect that the environment in which the tournament will take place counts against him. Archer has raw pace, Mahmood and Jordan bowl the best yorkers and Curran is probably the most consistent hitter of those left.
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Malan's record against pace bowling is exceptional, no argument. But isn't his record against spin in white ball internationals pretty weak? Seems like a pretty glaring flaw for a tournament that's going to be played in the UAE.
Yes because the wickets in the UAE are known Bunsen's... They're flat he'll be fine
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Not a huge amount of love for Chris Woakes in these stabs at squads...
Agree but it shows how strong we are. If Livingstone does get in the final 11, it might be at the expense of Malan who is No 1 rated in the world, or was till recently.
Woakes has never let us down your right and no one on here has mentioned Root.
T Curran is good death bowler but I’m going Jordan to do that job and is there a better fielder than CJ in the squad? He’s awesome and takes some blinding catches.
As a long term England fan, 50 overs or 20 it’s never been this good.
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T Curran out of the decider, David Wiley in.
Line up shows Livingstone to come in 7. That’s some strength in depth.
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Brilliant death bowling from Jordan
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He’s really good at the end of the innings, if it’s T Curran or Jordan for the death spot CJ should get it.
We are off to a flyer too, we just don’t back down from anything.
Probably Malan alone takes time to have a look
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Walk in
Massive six
Depart
Love that from Livvo
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What a win, what a game
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Blimey where do we go with that? Livingstones six was crucial, did Malan put pressure on the other batters or did we need that contribution of 30 odd when wickets were going...
I dunno, can't wait for he highlights
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He’s really good at the end of the innings, if it’s T Curran or Jordan for the death spot CJ should get it.
Full strength, would the seamers not be Archer, Woakes, Curran S?
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And Stokes, obviously.
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Full strength, would the seamers not be Archer, Woakes, Curran S?
Wood, Mills, etc might offer something else on a more placid pitch as well.
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The final 11 is going to be mighty difficult to pick I think.
Of the names there Woakes I don't think will get in...he hasn't featured in any of these games.
Conditions might dictate in UAE, maybe we want Rashid and Ali and Livingstone in as he can bowl spin also.
Livingstone has just been named man of he series, he might have forced his way in for the WC. Willey might be unlucky again with Archer and Stokes to come back.
Tough calls as we appear again in limited overs,to have quality players who will be left out.
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Chris Woakes has an injury.
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I have no idea with the strength of white ball batting we have how Malan gets anywhere near this side. With the way white ball cricket has evolved and improved, you have to be a very good batsman if you don't bowl, are an ordinary fielder and aren't great at running between the wickets. His best performances are on the flat pitches where there is no need for a guy holding an end up for others to bat around and his worst on the tricky pitches where that role has some value
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That's a mighty harsh judgment, presume you don't like the bloke.
He was, or maybe still is, No 1 rated world t20 batsman, I think he been unlucky not to be given a chance in the tests also.
The fact that England still picked him when we have such strong limited overs players means they must rate him.
Whether he gets in the starting 11 for the WC might depend on if we need another spin option in the UAE and Livingstone gets in first.
The only thing I've seen him do that others don't is play himself in a bit more, that might put pressure on others,or that might mean he takes responsibility to get us over the line in a tight game-as per the other night.
You can view it either way.
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That's a mighty harsh judgment, presume you don't like the bloke.
He was, or maybe still is, No 1 rated world t20 batsman, I think he been unlucky not to be given a chance in the tests also.
The fact that England still picked him when we have such strong limited overs players means they must rate him.
Whether he gets in the starting 11 for the WC might depend on if we need another spin option in the UAE and Livingstone gets in first.
The only thing I've seen him do that others don't is play himself in a bit more, that might put pressure on others,or that might mean he takes responsibility to get us over the line in a tight game-as per the other night.
You can view it either way.
When Stokes comes back in, wonder if the slow starts may count against Malan a bit more given that is how Stokes tends to operate as well. Stokes undoubtedly offers more in the field and is a bowling option and I can't see him being left out.
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I find Malan such an interesting case in our T20 side, he bats completely differently to everyone else (to a certain extent against the grain of Morgan's culture), he isn't the greatest fielder, almost has a different personality to the rest of the team even (as has been seen in the past), plays his best cricket on pitches not like what will be at the WC.
And yet he has this world ranking status/enigma about him, which makes him seem a must pick.
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When Stokes comes back in, wonder if the slow starts may count against Malan a bit more given that is how Stokes tends to operate as well. Stokes undoubtedly offers more in the field and is a bowling option and I can't see him being left out.
It may well be and they do bat similar. Stokes has never been an out and out power hitter,in fact he's technically probably our second best batsman in the longer form of the game.
The level these guys are at is phenomenal, Malan and Stokes can really hit then you have Roy and someone like Livingstone or Bairstow who can do it from the off.
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Just not convinced Malan leaves this England side particularly well balanced.
Aside the batting, as has been mentioned, he doesn't offer a lot. Buttler keeps, Livingstone can bowl a bit as can More and Stokes, Roy and Bairstow are gun fielders, and Morgan's captaincy record speaks for itself.
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Picking that final 11 for games in the UAE is goi to be very difficult. I'm sure Ali will play making 2 spinners, Stokes is a must pick, Archer maybe can't be left out.
Something will have to give. Roy, Buttler,Bairstow is nailed on and prob the best top 3 in the world currently for T20.
I think Malan and Livingstone are competing for one place. Malan hasn't found himself number 1 rated by accident, but we have an embarrassment of riches to choose from.
It was only 2015 we were rubbish, things have changed very quickly :)
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Mo’s spot is maybe more at risk if they can burgle abs over or two from Livingstone, though if it does end up very spin friendly his left handed ness and spin hitting will likely grab him a spot.
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That's a mighty harsh judgment, presume you don't like the bloke.
He was, or maybe still is, No 1 rated world t20 batsman, I think he been unlucky not to be given a chance in the tests also.
The fact that England still picked him when we have such strong limited overs players means they must rate him.
Whether he gets in the starting 11 for the WC might depend on if we need another spin option in the UAE and Livingstone gets in first.
The only thing I've seen him do that others don't is play himself in a bit more, that might put pressure on others,or that might mean he takes responsibility to get us over the line in a tight game-as per the other night.
You can view it either way.
No views at all on what he is like as a bloke, but as a cricketer we have better options. In the vast majority of England's white ball history, he would be a stand out player, but this is an exceptional group in which, like Tom Curran in the bowling department, he stands out as someone who doesn't obviously bring anything to what is already there.
At full strength, picking him would involve leaving Livingstone out which would be a crazy decision for me.